2020 Presidential Race

[volbeast33]

Eh, must folks know when the goose is cooked. Maga folks are a different story.

You just hear what you want to hear..... I voted for trump and feel biden won..... There were just as many whining about Russians causing Hillary to lose last time

 

[MarcoVol]

You do realize that Biden's lead in AZ, for example is .44% of the votes cast? Not exactly a large margin. In fact, smaller than the votes cast for the libertarian candidate.

That’s still 15,000 votes. Recounts don’t close a 15,000 vote gap.

Also Pennsylvania is really the only state that matters. Trump has no path to 270 without winning Pennsylvania.

Michigan isn’t close, Wisconsin is 20k votes, so that’s too large of a margin to make up.

But just for sh*ts and giggles let’s say something wild happened in AZ and WI and they flip to Trump. Heck let’s even throw in GA. Even with all that, Biden still wins the WH by winning Pennsylvania.

This is all an exercise in futility without Pennsylvania. Trump has no path to 270 without it.

 

[RavinDave]

The Republican party has been held hostage by Trump long enough. Time for the GOP to take control of the situation and unchained themselves from the con man in chief.

Right. So the Biden gang can put us ALL in chains.

 

[zeppelin128]

You just hear what you want to hear..... I voted for trump and feel biden won..... There were just as many whining about Russians causing Hillary to lose last time

And there was no proof of evidence about Hillary. Same as this nonsense with Trump and his supporters.

 

[Velo Vol]

And why not? People are sending money for this nonsense.

 

[0nelilreb]

Back in normal times . . .

Normal times you say ? Interesting ..

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

That’s still 15,000 votes. Recounts don’t close a 15,000 vote gap.

Also Pennsylvania is really the only state that matters. Trump has no path to 270 without winning Pennsylvania.

Michigan isn’t close, Wisconsin is 20k votes, so that’s too large of a margin to make up.

But just for sh*ts and giggles let’s say something wild happened in AZ and WI and they flip to Trump. Heck let’s even throw in GA. Even with all that, Biden still wins the WH by winning Pennsylvania.

This is all an exercise in futility without Pennsylvania. Trump has no path to 270 without it.

Seen this in the PA lawsuit.

 

[Orange Maniac]

Seen this in the PA lawsuit.

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How did this Judge of Elections know which name to tell them to use? How did this person know who would show up and who wouldn't? Don't be so gullible folks. I don't think most out there are smart enough to pull off such widespread fraud that is being claimed without somebody spilling the beans.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[volbeast33]

And there was no proof of evidence about Hillary. Same as this nonsense with Trump and his supporters.

I do think our election process needs to be tightened up and I’m sure there was some fraud..... I don’t think it was enough to overturn this election..... I feel both sides mainly care about control and power... if they actually cared about this country then we wouldn’t have joe Biden as president nor would trump had won the first time.

 

[BeecherVol]

That’s still 15,000 votes. Recounts don’t close a 15,000 vote gap.

Also Pennsylvania is really the only state that matters. Trump has no path to 270 without winning Pennsylvania.

Michigan isn’t close, Wisconsin is 20k votes, so that’s too large of a margin to make up.

But just for sh*ts and giggles let’s say something wild happened in AZ and WI and they flip to Trump. Heck let’s even throw in GA. Even with all that, Biden still wins the WH by winning Pennsylvania.

This is all an exercise in futility without Pennsylvania. Trump has no path to 270 without it.

Recounts (just by themselves) are not going to change the election. Unless the total number of ballots change for one reason or another. If there isn't any real evidence of fraud (which everybody should be fine with letting that process play out) Biden will win the election.

 

[Orange Maniac]

The whole system needs to be revamped and made consistent across all states. All presidential elections should be conducted the exact same in every state with the exact same rules for every state. None of this BS about extending deadlines from this bunch or that bunch. Eliminate all this. Use the same machines/system or whatever but everyone does the exact same thing. This is beyond ridiculous.

 

[zeppelin128]

The whole system needs to be revamped and made consistent across all states. All presidential elections should be conducted the exact same in every state with the exact same rules for every state. None of this BS about extending deadlines from this bunch or that bunch. Eliminate all this. Use the same machines/system or whatever but everyone does the exact same thing. This is beyond ridiculous.

That sounds dangerously close to federal control over elections. Let MAGA lose an election and suddenly all conservative principles are off the table.

 

[Zues1]

That sounds dangerously close to federal control over federal elections. Let MAGA lose an election and suddenly all conservative principles are off the table.

Please , people have been discussing this for years. There's absolutely no reason to have differences in voting from state to state in a federal election.

 

[MarcoVol]

Recounts (just by themselves) are not going to change the election. Unless the total number of ballots change for one reason or another. If there isn't any real evidence of fraud (which everybody should be fine with letting that process play out) Biden will win the election.

No problem with letting it play out.

My problem is with Trump tweeting out to 88M people that he won and the election was fraudulent. People believe the things he says.

 

[zeppelin128]

Please , people have been discussing this for years. There's absolutely no reason to have differences in voting from state to state in a federal election.

Sounds like socialist Red Hat dogma to me.

 

[volbeast33]

That sounds dangerously close to federal control over elections. Let MAGA lose an election and suddenly all conservative principles are off the table.

I’m not a conservative but more of a mixture between the two..... I feel that it should be handled the same nationwide since it is a federal election.

 

[Dudleys87]

That sounds dangerously close to federal control over elections. Let MAGA lose an election and suddenly all conservative principles are off the table.

Now now, when the Dems lose they do the same stuff. People seriously need to check themselves at the door and vote for what’s best for the people not the puppet their party puts out there.

Provided votes actually count.

 

[0nelilreb]

That sounds dangerously close to federal control over elections. Let MAGA lose an election and suddenly all conservative principles are off the table.

That’s a little disingenuous don’t you think when the left literally has Congressmen , their media nut huggers like Jake Tapper , and WaPo columnists calling for names to be put on a list as a public shaming for Trump supporters ? It could easily be said of the left ... let the liberals lose one election and all of their baser ideologies of acceptance , equality and civil liberty goes straight out the window along with the baby and the bath water .

 

[zeppelin128]

I’m not a conservative but more of a mixture between the two..... I feel that it should be handled the same nationwide since it is a federal election.

Gonna be hard to convince states that they should relinquish power.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

You guys oiling up your guns yet for the pro-Trump insurrection?

Oiling up the guns to secede from the union. Election fraud will be commonplace and conservatives will be disenfranchised from now on. If you don’t want us , we don’t want you.

 

[volbeast33]

Gonna be hard to convince states that they should relinquish power.

That seems to be an ongoing theme with politics..... everyone is more worried about power than is the right thing to do for the country

 

[MontyPython]

Oiling up the guns to secede from the union. Election fraud will be commonplace and conservatives will be disenfranchised from now on. If you don’t want us , we don’t want you.

How'd that work out last time?

*cough*

Probably not such a great idea, unless the thought of hellfire missiles falling on your head sounds appealing.

 

[zeppelin128]

That’s a little disingenuous don’t you think when the left literally has Congressmen , their media nut huggers like Jake Tapper , and WaPo columnists calling for names to be put on a list as a public shaming for Trump supporters ? It could easily be said of the left ... let the liberals lose one election and all of their baser ideologies of acceptance , equality and civil liberty goes straight out the window along with the baby and the bath water .

I'm not as fond of the whataboutism as you are. Two wrongs don't make a right, as such.

 

[Dudleys87]

How'd that work out last time?

*cough*

Probably not such a great idea, unless the thought of hellfire missiles falling on your head sounds appealing.

That’s a hell of a way to go though.