2020 Presidential Race

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tvolsfan said:
Just a heads up, Trump is not going to do that.
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Yeah , he will. After the court process and recounts are completed and he comes up short he will not have the support of his followers to illegally stay in office. You are just gullible to believe that left wing liberal nonsense that he would refuse to leave.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Yeah , he will. After the court process and recounts are completed and he comes up short he will not have the support of his followers to illegally stay in office. You are just gullible to believe that left wing liberal nonsense that he would refuse to leave.
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And if he did refuse to leave, it’s foolish to believe that any significant segment of the population would support that.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Yeah , he will. After the court process and recounts are completed and he comes up short he will not have the support of his followers to illegally stay in office. You are just gullible to believe that left wing liberal nonsense that he would refuse to leave.
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Lol

Fortunately, it won’t be up to them either.
 
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Much more concerning to me than the vote recount (which will work itself out one way or another) is the fact 4 senior defense officials have either resigned or been fired in 2 days.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
And if he did refuse to leave, it’s foolish to believe that any significant segment of the population would support that.
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It's weird that saying "This smells fishy as .... and needs to be investigated" has been reinterpreted to mean "I'm a member of a cult that will sink our Republic to save an orange boar."
 
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VolnJC said:
AZ lead to 13k...still a chance there for Trump....16 uncalled House races...GOP now leads in 12 of them!!! They will be just a couple of Katie Hill scandals from taking control even before the next election
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Shame Katie didn't hang around. For a dem, she was entertaining at least. BB might not approve being prudish about sex offenders ... but not so much murderers and other career criminals.
 
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UTwild82 said:
Much more concerning to me than the vote recount (which will work itself out one way or another) is the fact 4 senior defense officials have either resigned or been fired in 2 days.
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He's surrounding himself with his conspiracy theorists. It's just for moral support. won't amount to a hill of beans come January 20. Making the transition process slower but that's evidently his END game.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Lol

Fortunately, it won’t be up to them either.
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You are not intelligent if you believe he will not leave office when the states certify he has lost. Not that it is a given yet. Just reported there are 234 affidavits in Wayne County,MI alone that fraudulent activity was going on in the counting centers. Signed and notarized affidavits of fraud. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Your opinion based on your bias. If you are confident of the results then I’m sure you are personally all for the recounts, Right?

BYW, there are many people coming forward in several states stating poll workers performed a multiple of fraudulent actions including filing out boxes of blank ballots and putting them in return envelopes, peeking into envelopes and seeing who the vote was for and then placing it in a problem stack and many other similar serious irregularities. These people are signing affidavits under a penalty of perjury. Sour grapes? Maybe not.
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I am biased, but my opinion is based on the absence of any evidence, and the lack of credibility on display by the Trump legal team, specifically Rudy Giuliani, who made a complete fool of himself outside of a landscaping business in Philadelphia on Saturday morning. The burden of proof rests with those who are alleging fraudulent activity, and to this point, they have not met their burden.

None of the anecdotal evidence you are discussing has been verified. Some of those people making these allegations (such as Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey - Giuliani's sex offender witness from the landscaping press conference) have already been discredited.

Some people are signing affidavits. Some people such as Richard Hopkins from Erie, Pennsylvania. He is the USPS driver who has now recanted his allegations. Just because you sign an affidavit, doesn't mean you are telling the truth. Richard Hopkins obviously wasn't. I have more proof that the people making allegations of fraud are lying... than you have that they are telling the truth. I just named two of the proven liars: Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey and Richard Hopkins of Erie, Pennsylvania. Google them if you don't believe me: Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey (Rudy Giuliiani's sex offender) and Richard Hopkins of Erie, Pennsylvania.

By the way, Rudy Giuliani's press conference from Saturday is the most farcical display of comedy I've ever seen. If he is the best Trump can do for legal counsel? Then there is no point in not conceding. Rudy Giuliani is a goofball loser.
 
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VolnJC said:
Poll out today says that half the people who voted for Biden didnt like him and only voted against Trump...also looks like Trump will be leaving office with higher rating than Obama View attachment 322143
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And yet we’re supposed to believe that Biden got the most votes in history, more than even Obama in 2008?!! Yeah right
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is nothing ever objective about the tripe you post. The 2000 Presidential election was a close one. It hung completely in the balance from the results in one district in one state. The margin was less than 1,800 votes on election night. The final margin wound up being only 537. You also had the fact that the Governor of that disputed state just happened to be the brother of the leading candidate. Those were extraordinary circumstances. This is not a comparable situation to 2000. Bush vs Gore was close... this election was not. Trump is delaying the inevitable here.
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My “tripe” has dismembered your emotion and partisan-filled rants so many times over here during the Trump era, that you must look like Mr. Potato Head by now.

You’re essentially angry that I don’t kowtow to your sensibilities. There is plenty of time for legal challenges and still have an orderly transfer if that’s how it occurs. After more than four years of Russiaaah! narrative, if you don’t like that you can go pound sand, my good friend.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I am biased, but my opinion is based on the absence of any evidence, and the lack of credibility on display by the Trump legal team, specifically Rudy Giuliani, who made a complete fool of himself outside of a landscaping business in Philadelphia on Saturday morning. The burden of proof rests with those who are alleging fraudulent activity, and to this point, they have not met their burden.

None of the anecdotal evidence you are discussing has been verified. Some of those people making these allegations (such as Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey - Giuliani's sex offender witness from the landscaping press conference, have already been discredited).

Some people are signing affidavits. Some people such as Richard Hopkins from Erie, Pennsylvania. He is the USPS driver who has now recanted his allegations. Just because you sign an affidavit, doesn't mean you are telling the truth. Richard Hopkins obviously wasn't. I have more proof that the people making allegations of fraud are lying... than you have that they are telling the truth. I just named two of the proven liars: Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey and Richard Hopkins of Erie, Pennsylvania. Google them if you don't believe me: Daryl Brooks of Trenton, New Jersey (Rudy Giuliiani's sex offender) and Richard Hopkins of Erie, Pennsylvania.

By the way, Rudy Giuliani's press conference from Saturday is the most farcical display of comedy I've ever seen. If he is the best Trump can do for legal counsel? Then there is no point in not conceding. Rudy Giuliani is a goofball loser.
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Guess you didn't see the earlier post where he (Hopkins) did not recant - his own words
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Pretty obvious what's really going on here. The Trump administration and their followers don't want black people to be the ones who ultimately cause him to GTFO of the White House. They can't accept the fact that the black voters in ATL, Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee are the one's responsible for firing his sorry butt.
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Yet the African American voters in those cities and elsewhere as a whole have benefitted from lower employment rateS and the crime/punishment bill Encouraged by Trump under his term. They are sheep following the liberal talking points that conservatives are racist.
 
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carlos86 said:
If there is a a fraudulent ballot that voted for Biden but voted Republican down ballot they should throw it out.
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Duh. If a ballot is fraudulent, it's fraudulent - everything on it. Why exactly do you think those of us here wanting fair and proper elections would argue otherwise?
 
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