2020 Presidential Race

[Orangeburst]

That's an approval rating poll.... my promise had to do with election polls, but I probably didn't specify that at the time.

You still do not get it. Presidential election polls are no different than Presidential approval polls and all political polls are political.

 

[Orangeslice13]

well there is a statement from Dems in the House that "he fully recanted" based on an off the record statement from the organization accused by the whistleblower. So c'mon man

There’s an unnamed source that says BB85 is a thief.
Should we believe that too?

 

[BowlBrother85]

I’ve got an anonymous source that says you’re Running an embezzlement Scheme. They are in management and spoke off the record......

Nope. That’s not how it works. The USPS has made no statement that he recanted.

They did... but it's not important, I guess a person will believe whatever best suits their agenda. However, you are not going to overturn the results from this election with anecdotal stories from individuals. It will take something systemic in nature. You don't have a damn thing.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

They get fired? Who in history has the president fired for the interregnum? I thought Trump fired Esper. Like I said, you probably know more about this than me. What instances have happened where the Secretary of Defense has been fired during a disputed election?

Special circumstances regarding Esper. He got in Trumps doghouse in the summer over unsolicited remarks to the press regarding using troops to stop the violent protests in Seattle, Portland and other cities after the George Floyd death.

 

[VolnJC]

Is this what's called a "self-own?"

No just shows how ignorant half the population is....how long will they stick with Biden when they realize they aren't getting all the freebies they were promised?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Aren't you of the group that believes that convicted felons who have been released from prison deserve to have their liberties restored? You can always tell how the liberal response will go - ignore the real issue and demean the question and the people questioning. Interesting, too, that we never really get down to the nuts and bolts of government incompetence because of the polarization issue - you are happy this time, so it's not an issue; somebody was happy last time, so it wasn't an issue - simple divide and conquer. Incompetent leaders skate because the electorate can never agree to root out the problems.

It should be the same standards across the board.

 

[AM64]

And yet we’re supposed to believe that Biden got the most votes in history, more than even Obama in 2008?!! Yeah right

We've grown a few million since then ... who knows, some might even be legally eligible to vote. Bad news is there are definitely more millennials legally able to vote.

 

[Orange_Crush]

lolol BB and his anonymous sources.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You still do not get it. Presidential election polls are no different than Presidential approval polls and all political polls are political.

Not sure I agree with you. Donald Trump's Real Clear Politics Average Approval Rating (46%) really does align pretty well with his percentage of the popular vote (47.5%). Approval polls just aren't typically very important unless they are showing a President who is unusually low, as George W. Bush was in the fall of 2008.

 

[Orangeslice13]

They did... but it's not important, I guess a person will believe whatever best suits their agenda. However, you are not going to overturn the results from this election with anecdotal stories from individuals. It will take something systemic in nature. You don't have a damn thing.

I’m not trying too overturn anything. My concern is for the republic and it’s continued security.
Unnamed sources are Bull ****. They mean nothing. There’s a reason they are not allowed as proof in a court of law. And by the law there’s a signed affidavits and it’s has not been refuted or recanted. End of story.
I’m sorry it’s bad for your narrative.
I prepared for a Biden Presidential term almost a year ago. I’m way more concerned about the house and senate than the presidency.

 

[volinbham]

lolol BB and his anonymous sources.

use them to structure an argument then when the veracity is challenged claim they are not important to the argument

 

[Orangeslice13]

lolol BB and his anonymous sources.

You’ve heard that he’s running a pyramid scheme haven’t you. There’s an anonymous source

 

[StarRaider]

No just shows how ignorant half the population is....how long will they stick with Biden when they realize they aren't getting all the freebies they were promised?

Santa Claus is the ultimate dem candidate.

 

[tvolsfan]

You are not intelligent if you believe he will not leave office when the states certify he has lost. Not that it is a given yet. Just reported there are 234 affidavits in Wayne County,MI alone that fraudulent activity was going on in the counting centers. Signed and notarized affidavits of fraud. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

There is zero chance of this election being turned on fraud allegations. You are not intelligent if you think it may be.

 

[tvolsfan]

I’m way more interested in preserving the security of the republic than how Trump feels about it.

Lol, maybe you do, but ultimately you aren’t the one the GOP isn’t trying to appease right now.

 

[luthervol]

There’s an unnamed source that says BB85 is a thief.
Should we believe that too?

Some unnamed sources should be believed and some should not.
The position that either all should be believed or none should be believed is ludicrous.

 

[AM64]

here's the WaPo story

"But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”"

so they didn't talk to him and he denies he recanted the story.

You forget Mr Anonymous knows all. That' why he's always quoted and never questioned by "leading news sources" such as WaPo and the NYT.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I’m not trying too overturn anything. My concern is for the republic and it’s continued security.
Unnamed sources are Bull ****. They mean nothing. There’s a reason they are not allowed as proof in a court of law. And by the law there’s a signed affidavits and it’s has not been refuted or recanted. End of story.
I’m sorry it’s bad for your narrative.
I prepared for a Biden Presidential term almost a year ago. I’m way more concerned about the house and senate than the presidency.

It's only bad for my narrative if there is proof. There really was an allegation of voter fraud made by a sex offender on Saturday named Daryl Brooks, who said that he had witnessed fraud firsthand. He stood next to Rudy Giuliani outside of a landscaping business (not lying about that) and lied his butt off. Would his allegations be any more credible, if he had signed an affidavit?

Rudy Giuliani is a clown. I do not believe that he is uncovering evidence that is going to change anything. He is an embarrassment.

 

[clarksvol00]

No just shows how ignorant half the population is....how long will they stick with Biden when they realize they aren't getting all the freebies they were promised?

Oh...

 

[Orange_Crush]

You’ve heard that he’s running a pyramid scheme haven’t you. There’s an anonymous source

He's knotted himself into the logic that unnamed sources that may or may not exist are more trustworthy than the guy who signed an affidavit and produced a recording of officials trying to intimidate him over the whole thing.

 

[clarksvol00]

Special circumstances regarding Esper. He got in Trumps doghouse in the summer over unsolicited remarks to the press regarding using troops to stop the violent protests in Seattle, Portland and other cities after the George Floyd death.

So you don't have an example?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Some unnamed sources should be believed and some should not.
The position that either all should be believed or none should be believed is ludicrous.

None should be believed.
If it doesn’t fly in the court of law then it shouldn’t be believed outside the court

 

[AM64]

The US Postal Service has said that he recanted his claims.

Now, the USPS is credible. Can you pick a lane and stay in it?

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

There is zero chance of this election being turned on fraud allegations. You are not intelligent if you think it may be.

You have not seen the affidavits or know the volume. I would not say zero because neither know how the courts will view it.

 

[Electric Orange]

Hold the line