2020 Presidential Race

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AM64 said:
Strangely enough if you calculate how many of the 2018 ballots were rejected it was roughly 8050. Since the 2020 rejection would have been approximately 3600 ballots, I guess we have to assume somewhat over half the 2018 rejects fixed their mistakes and everybody else got it right the first time. And here we though 2020 was messing with peoples' minds.
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Have you ever been behind a car and seen where they have their registration stickers in the wrong place? I see it all the time and dont believe these same people will nail mail in voting the first time they try.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Anddddd why exactly did only one R in the House vote for more protections and then McConnell wouldn’t even bring it to a vote?

Thursday's first bill, presented by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer would authorize $775 million to bolster election security and require states to keep paper trails of all votes cast. The second, presented by Senator Richard Blumenthal, would require political candidates and their staff and family members to notify the FBI about any offers of assistance from foreign governments.

In 2018, there were 14 states that used electronic voting systems in 2018 with no paper trail, that means that if votes were inaccurately tallied or machines malfunctioned, there would be no way to investigate or recover those votes. Voting machine companies are not currently subject to any federally-mandated security standards.

McConnell wouldn’t bring this to a vote. Said it was partisan. But definitely, Dems wanted to rig this election 🙄
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I said earlier that congressional corruption is mutually assured destruction territory. Everybody takes campaign money from the same people. Besides you'd have to do a dump to see what else was included in the legislation. None of it comes without poison pills these days.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Absolutely 100% correct. The Democratic Party today is the most power hungry, corrupt and dishonest party in the history of the U.S. They have continuously changed election methods to favor their party in this election. The opportunities for fraud with the mail-in ballots are endless and the Democrats have been working hard for months if not years. Biden received about 76-77m votes beating Obama’s previous record of 69m. Are you kidding me? He stayed in his basement up until October and smashed the votes received by a candidate
for a presidential election by 7-8m. BS, this was systematic election fraud. I also blame the Republican Party who allowed this to happen fully knowing the Democrats were developing a plan to steal the election.
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Remember that the Left spent four years in bed with the liberal media outlets trying to label the guy who wanted to "drain the swamp" as a dictator or fascist. It's been just over a week since the election, and their presidential-hopeful has already revealed that he is ready to mandate masks for every US citizen and lock down the nation.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Remember that the Left spent four years in bed with the liberal media outlets trying to label the guy who wanted to "drain the swamp" as a dictator or fascist. It's been just over a week since the election, and their presidential-hopeful has already revealed that he is ready to mandate masks for every US citizen and lock down the nation.
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what swamp did he drain? he bathed in the swamp. he soaked in the swamp. he's a con and many people like you fell for it. You believe in Q too?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Remember that the Left spent four years in bed with the liberal media outlets trying to label the guy who wanted to "drain the swamp" as a dictator or fascist. It's been just over a week since the election, and their presidential-hopeful has already revealed that he is ready to mandate masks for every US citizen and lock down the nation.
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it's only fascism if you don't agree with it
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
what swamp did he drain? he bathed in the swamp. he soaked in the swamp. he's a con and many people like you fell for it. You believe in Q too?
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Give me a freaking break. He even pissed off Republican grey-hairs. He ended terrible trade agreements for the US, brought a ton of jobs and manufacturing home, helped small businesses, worked towards oil-independence, decreased taxes for most families, started ZERO wars in 4 years (which almost never happens), improved border security, ended the crushing Obamacare mandate, made serious strides towards peace in the ME, and (now we know) was part of the fastest vaccine development program in the history of the world.

And, guess what? Nobody I know who is gay or black or female had their liberties stripped of them.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Give me a freaking break. He even pissed off Republican grey-hairs. He ended terrible trade agreements for the US, brought a ton of jobs and manufacturing home, helped small businesses, worked towards oil-independence, decreased taxes for most families, started ZERO wars in 4 years (which almost never happens), improved border security, ended the crushing Obamacare mandate, made serious strides towards peace in the ME, and (now we know) was part of the fastest vaccine development program in the history of the world.

And, guess what? Nobody I know who is gay or black or female had their liberties stripped of them.
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Brought our troops home.... some folks just do not like peace and prosperity I reckon.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Give me a freaking break. He even pissed off Republican grey-hairs. He ended terrible trade agreements for the US, brought a ton of jobs and manufacturing home, helped small businesses, worked towards oil-independence, decreased taxes for most families, started ZERO wars in 4 years (which almost never happens), improved border security, ended the crushing Obamacare mandate, made serious strides towards peace in the ME, and (now we know) was part of the fastest vaccine development program in the history of the world.

And, guess what? Nobody I know who is gay or black or female had their liberties stripped of them.
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You put a long list of bs in your post, but I will focus only on this one, because you really should know better (and you probably do):

Kathrin Jansen, a senior vice president and the head of vaccine research and development at Pfizer, said this, "We were never a part of Operation Warp Speed. We have never taken money from the U.S. government, or from anyone."

At least so far, that is an accurate statement, because although Pfizer did get a $1.95 billion deal with the government's Operation Warp Speed, the agreement is an advance-purchase agreement, meaning the company won't get paid until after they deliver the vaccines. Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine, unlike front-runners Moderna and AstraZeneca.

Pfizer has done nothing but distance itself from the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed. In fact, Pfizer and BioNTech had already been working on a vaccine all year before the companies struck their deal with the U.S. government in July. I suppose you could give credit to Operation Warp Speed as an incentive for Pfizer and BioNTech to keep going, but Operation Warp Speed did not fund the research and development of this COVID vaccine being touted by Pfizer.

Both Mike Pence and Donald Trump have been quick to take full credit for this very promising news, but in reality, they had very little (if anything at all) to do with it. Like I said, you probably knew this already... but you just wanted to exaggerate your butt-whipped president's accomplishments on his way out to pasture.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You put a long list of bs in your post, but I will focus only on this one, because you really should know better (and you probably do):

Kathrin Jansen, a senior vice president and the head of vaccine research and development at Pfizer, said this, "We were never a part of Operation Warp Speed. We have never taken money from the U.S. government, or from anyone."

At least so far, that is an accurate statement, because although Pfizer did get a $1.95 billion deal with the government's Operation Warp Speed, the agreement is an advance-purchase agreement, meaning the company won't get paid until after they deliver the vaccines. Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine, unlike front-runners Moderna and AstraZeneca.

Pfizer has done nothing but distance itself from the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed. In fact, Pfizer and BioNTech had already been working on a vaccine all year before the companies struck their deal with the U.S. government in July. I suppose you could give credit to Operation Warp Speed as an incentive for Pfizer and BioNTech to keep going, but Operation Warp Speed did not fund the research and development of this COVID vaccine being touted by Pfizer.

Both Mike Pence and Donald Trump have been quick to take full credit for this very promising news, but in reality, they had very little (if anything at all) to do with it. Like I said, you probably knew this already... but you just wanted to exaggerate your butt-whipped president's accomplishments on his way out to pasture.
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Already been discussed and disproven.
 
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StarRaider said:
Brought our troops home.... some folks just do not like peace and prosperity I reckon.
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I’m going to give Trump credit for slightly lower troop levels. I support that position from any President regardless of other policy I may or may not agree with. But let’s not pretend like it’s been some unprecedented draw down.

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To his credit he does seem to want to bring more home from anywhere the Pentagon will let him.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I guess you would know more than Kathrin Jansen, wouldn't you? She is only the head of vaccine research and development at Pfizer. LOL!
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You know that FDA clinical trial requirements were majorly streamlined allowing for the Pfizer product to move from Phase 1 to 3 in record time right? Which administration changed these rules?

In addition the administration agreed to reimburse (essentially guarantee sales at no risk to the company) doses of the vaccine. Which administration made these financial guarantees to Pfizer?
 
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I’m going to give Trump credit for slightly lower troop levels. I support that position from any President regardless of other policy I may or may not agree with. But let’s not pretend like it’s been some unprecedented draw down.

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To his credit he does seem to want to bring more home from anywhere the Pentagon will let him.
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And he didn't involve us in any new armed conflicts. Points for that as well.
 
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