2020 Presidential Race

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Orange_Crush said:
This election will be decided by the courts. It will not be healthy for our divided country.
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Brother, this entire election wasn't good for our divided country. Obviously it had to happen, but no matter what, one side was going to riot or start making plans for the "retribution" of their perceived wrongs.

It's too that point where something is going to break.
 
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TennesseeTopHat said:
But those people had multiple victims come forward. The burden of proof is on the accusing party, but in this case there is no accusing party
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They eventually did publicly. But prior to that no one knew about it when it was first reported to an authoritative person. Only when it blows up does that fact come out. Who is to say multiple people haven't come forward to be squashed down at the beginning? It's a bottle neck sometimes.

No one is suggesting for him to be jailed due to sniffing kids but it is a red flag. Could be just old man creepy stuff. Point is that it's worth having a critical eye with those issues. Not just Biden but in general. We have a significantly more reasons to suspect Biden than anyone on this board. That's the point. The suggestion Purps made was entirely baseless and had the strict purpose of hypoerbolic ad hominem.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Trump should not concede a contested election, nor should Biden have given an acceptance of a contested election.
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When what is being contested with litigation won't change the end results, then there is nothing wrong with presuming victory and giving an acceptance speech. Trump is doing nothing more than delaying what will inevitably have to happen. Just because Trump is in denial, and doesn't have any class, shouldn't impact Biden.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When what is being contested with litigation won't change the end results, then there is nothing wrong with presuming victory and giving an acceptance speech. Trump is doing nothing more than delaying what will inevitably have to happen. Just because Trump is in denial, and doesn't have any class, shouldn't impact Biden.
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Trump should not concede a contested election, nor should Biden have given an acceptance of a contested election.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Brother, this entire election wasn't good for our divided country. Obviously it had to happen, but no matter what, one side was going to riot or start making plans for the "retribution" of their perceived wrongs.

It's too that point where something is going to break.
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Meh. The age we live in of instant information distorts how bad it may seem. I feel like the majority of people are still plugging along in their daily lives. VN and other platforms generally attract the most extreme on both sides.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When what is being contested with litigation won't change the end results, then there is nothing wrong with presuming victory and giving an acceptance speech. Trump is doing nothing more than delaying what will inevitably have to happen. Just because Trump is in denial, and doesn't have any class, shouldn't impact Biden.
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You wouldn't have this take if the results were simply flipped. Take a lap.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, and so did the child separation policy. That was very unpopular in Arizona.
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Let me ask you this. Real question.

I'll use an arbitrary number of 5%. If 5% of children were brought by traffickers and the child separation policy was not active, would you be OK with 5% of the children being given to traffickers and sent on their merry way?
 
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utvols88 said:
You wouldn't have this take if the results were simply flipped. Take a lap.
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That is just wrong. The results were flipped in 2016. It was 306 to 232 in the electoral college, just like it will be after Georgia and North Carolina are called. Hillary Clinton gave her concession speech the day after the election. She was very gracious.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is just wrong. The results were flipped in 2016. It was 306 to 232 in the electoral college, just like it will be after Georgia and North Carolina are called. Hillary Clinton gave her concession speech the day after the election. She was very gracious.
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2016 and 2020 election procedures are remarkably different.
 
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utvols88 said:
You wouldn't have this take if the results were simply flipped. Take a lap.
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The media doesn't crown our royalty. Those in here predicting the outcome with such certainty would have to have more insight that we should reasonably believe they have to be able to make the predictions they are. Our system isn't set up to decide the next president based on media assurances, nor those of partisan internet warriors who think too much of their own ignorance.

Thetre is a system to hash this out, and it appears we're actually early in that process. Trump should not concede a contested election, nor should the media be crowning Biden, nor should Biden allow them to.
 
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