2020 Presidential Race

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#81,303
BowlBrother85 said:
I have read an affidavit claiming fraud due to military members voting for Joe Biden. You are professing a level of erudition, which you simply don't have. I'm not impressed by you at all.
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I am? lol I literally gut-laughed.

BowlBrother85 said:
Most of those affidavits are not even claiming anything improper - much less voter fraud. The Trump campaign has collected affidavits from people claiming that it was suspicious that members of the military were voting for Biden. Other affidavits were from people claiming they felt intimidated at their voting precinct because of how some union members were "looking" at them. LOL!

There was no fraud. There is only sour grapes.
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Orange_Crush said:
His argument is the equivalent of having someone pick three green M&Ms out of the bag for him, not seeing any of the other M&Ms in the bag, and then claiming with certainty that most of the M&Ms in the bag are green.

The scary thing is that I truly don't think he realizes how ridiculous he looks when people read his arguments.
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Do you even know how many affidavits they have taken, much less read them and determined what "most of them" have claimed?

I'm waiting.
 
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GSD82 said:
You democrats sure are tough
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See there is the perfect example of the difference in us and them. What did she do after getting clobbered in the back of the head? She walked away. We love America. We love peace. We like to see hard working Americans be successful no matter if we disagree with how think as long as you put our country first.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Who?

Certainly not Sidney Powell or Lin Wood.
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This incident pretty much sums up the validity of every accusation of voter fraud coming from the Trump side:

On Wednesday, November 11th, the Trump campaign put out a press release and then tweeted out the names of 4 deceased people who they claimed had cast a vote in the 2020 election. James Blalock of Newton County, Georgia was listed as being one of the 4 deceased people who had allegedly voted.

On Thursday, November 12th, Tucker Carlson opened his show highlighting these 4 examples of voter fraud being alleged by the Trump campaign, stating, "In moments like this, truth really matters more than ever and false allegations of fraud can cause as much damage as the fraud itself."

Tucker Carlson then began to explain that a man named James Blalock had voted in Georgia on November 3rd, despite having died several years earlier. Tucker Carlson promised his viewers, "We can prove it."

However, Atlanta station 11Alive interviewed James Blalock's widow, Agnes Blalock. She told them that she voted as "Mrs. James Blalock," and Newton County election officials confirmed that Agnes Blalock (who is 96 years old) had voted by and signed her name as "Mrs. James Blalock" - just as she always signs her name.

On Friday night, Tucker Carlson told his audience that "We got some news tonight - and an apology," Carlson began. "One of the people who voted in last week's election isn't dead. James Blalock is still dead; we told you about him. But it was his wife who voted. She voted as 'Mrs. James Blalock'. It's old-fashioned and we missed it." Carson continued, "A whole bunch of dead people did vote - we showed you their names, we proved it - but James Blalock was not among them. So apologies for that. Of course, we're always going to correct when we're wrong. And we were."

Tucker Carlson went on to claim that the other 3 deceased people he had talked about, had in fact voted. However, those claims have also been similarly debunked as of Saturday morning. Carlson had also accused a woman named "Linda Kesler" of Nicholson, Georgia of having voted - even though she died in 2003. The problem? It was a woman named "Lynda Kesler" with a slightly different spelling to her name, a different address, date of birth and zip code from Nicholson, Georgia who had voted. There is no record of "Linda Kesler" having voted since her death in 2003. As of this minute, Tucker Carlson has not apologized for that mistake.

The Trump campaign made the same mistakes in accusing both James Blalock and Linda Kesler of having voted - since their deaths. The Trump campaign has not yet acknowledged these mistakes, much less apologized for them. It seems unlikely that they ever will.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This incident pretty much sums up the validity of every accusation of voter fraud coming from the Trump side:

On Wednesday, November 11th, the Trump campaign put out a press release and then tweeted out the names of 4 deceased people who they claimed had cast a vote in the 2020 election. James Blalock of Newton County, Georgia was listed as being one of the 4 deceased people who had allegedly voted.

On Thursday, November 12th, Tucker Carlson opened his show highlighting these 4 examples of voter fraud being alleged by the Trump campaign, stating, "In moments like this, truth really matters more than ever and false allegations of fraud can cause as much damage as the fraud itself."

Tucker Carlson then began to explain that a man named James Blalock had voted in Georgia on November 3rd, despite having died several years earlier. Tucker Carlson promised his viewers, "We can prove it."

However, Atlanta station 11Alive interviewed James Blalock's widow, Agnes Blalock. She told them that she voted as "Mrs. James Blalock," and Newton County election officials confirmed that Agnes Blalock (who is 96 years old) had voted by and signed her name as "Mrs. James Blalock" - just as she always signs her name.

On Friday night, Tucker Carlson told his audience that "We got some news tonight - and an apology," Carlson began. "One of the people who voted in last week's election isn't dead. James Blalock is still dead; we told you about him. But it was his wife who voted. She voted as 'Mrs. James Blalock'. It's old-fashioned and we missed it." Carson continued, "A whole bunch of dead people did vote - we showed you their names, we proved it - but James Blalock was not among them. So apologies for that. Of course, we're always going to correct when we're wrong. And we were."

Tucker Carlson went on to claim that the other 3 deceased people he had talked about, had in fact voted. However, those claims have also been similarly debunked as of Saturday morning. Carlson had also accused a woman named Linda Kesler of Nicholson, Georgia of having voted - even though she died in 2003. The problem? It was a woman named Lynda Kesler with a different address, birthday and zip code from Nicholson, Georgia who had voted. There is no record of "Linda Kesler' having voted since her death in 2003. As of this minute, Tucker Carlson has not apologized for that mistake.

The Trump campaign made the same mistakes in accusing both James Blalock and Linda Kesler of having voted - since their death. The Trump campaign has not yet acknowledged these mistakes, much less apologized for them. It seems unlikely that they ever will.
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Your logical fallacy is the hasty generalization.

Hasty Generalization
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Your logical fallacy is the hasty generalization.

Hasty Generalization
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No, because all four of the allegations of fraud tweeted out last week in a single press release by the Trump campaign, and then discussed on Thursday by Tucker Carlson have been debunked. Four out of four is not a small sample size among that one press release. It is in fact, 100%.

However, even if it was just a matter of making one mistake, the Trump campaign should still apologize for it, as Tucker Carlson did - but they haven't... and probably never will. It's not truth or accuracy that they care about.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, because all four of the allegations of fraud tweeted out last week in a single press release by the Trump campaign, and then discussed on Thursday by Tucker Carlson have been debunked. Four out of four is not a small sample size among that one press release. It is in fact, 100%.

However, even if it was just a matter of making one mistake, the Trump campaign should still apologize for it, as Tucker Carlson did - but they haven't... and probably never will. It's not truth or accuracy that they care about.
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Orange_Crush said:
Your logical fallacy is the hasty generalization.

Hasty Generalization
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You just did it again. Stating conclusions about the rest of them, based on just those four, is still a hasty generalization fallacy.

Please stop doing this to yourself.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You just did it again. Stating conclusions about the rest of them, based on just those four, is still a hasty generalization fallacy.

Please stop doing this to yourself.
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You should tell the Trump campaign to stop citing false examples of dead people voting. If you don't think that this casts doubt on the entire list of alleged fraud then you are naive. This matters and it has a cumulative effect.
 
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