2020 Presidential Race

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#82,777
McDad said:
Not going to do the parsing thing with you today.
Summary:
Me: some municipalities force you to give up you gun
You: wh, courthouse, ballparks do to
Me: Nyc
you: wrong noob
me: good, san fran
you: you can keep and bear.

You moved to keep them in your house under lock and key even though the context was carrying. This right is as valid and as undeniable as the others listed in that section.
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In new York without the permit that they won’t give you it’s not legal to stop for gas and get a coke if you are carrying a gun to and from the gun range. New York is the 4th most restrictive state in the US with the most gun violence per person in raw numbers. E8462968-9F01-4AF2-ACA9-CD5051AC97A4.jpeg
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
She isn’t associated with Rudy in any way. Her claims are separate and deal it appears with largely in person Election Day voting. Rudy is grandstanding on mail ins largely.

I’m not paying attention to Rudy either. @Orange_Crush can probably provide a list of links if you want to read he’s been following it closely, more so than I
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I've read about everything, and watched the videos. Being that her reputation is mostly bolstered by Fox opinion hosts, I'm guessing she sees a future in being the perpetual Trump legal surrogate, who cries "election malfeasance" Anyone doing that in the future will have a less than stellar reputation, anyway.
 
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Due to the 2018 Executive Order by Trump calling for a national emergency per foreign influence on US elections, including the prediction of rigging via election software, I believe we are seeing one of two things. Either of which needs to be fully proven, and gallows built.

I believe that either Trump wrote that executive order as pre-work to challenge an election that he thought he would lose, as a soft political coup to retain office against the will of the constitutional system.

Or...
He and his Intel community saw voter fraud in the 2016 election, predicted massive fraud in the 2020 election, proclaimed a state of emergency and set up a sting to prove massive voter fraud and corruption in the US gov't. In effect he would have been allowing another attempted coup, but following it in real time via Military Intelligence to collect proof as it occurred.

If either is true, the guilty should be perp-walked to the gallows as a message what happens when you try to rob the people of their republic.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I've read about everything, and watched the videos. Being that her reputation is mostly bolstered by Fox opinion hosts, I'm guessing she sees a future in being the perpetual Trump legal surrogate, who cries "election malfeasance" Anyone doing that in the future will have a less than stellar reputation, anyway.
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Her reputation was established long before she took up the Flynn case. Go read her bio she’s a fairly high powered attorney and former fed prosecutor. You see Turley and Dershowitz on Fox a lot too and are routinely quoted and their credentials are impeccable. Neither are Trump supporters or even Republicans.
 
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Oh, dear. I think the election results were officially eaten.

Trump agency official tasked with transition process had pre-election talk with predecessor who handled 2000
From CNN's Kristen Holmes


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General Services Administration Administrator Emily Murphy speaks at the Department of Homeland Security's St. Elizabeths Campus Center Building in Washington, DC on June 21, 2019. Susan Walsh/AP

General Services Administrator Emily Murphy had a call with David Barram, the GSA administrator during the 2000 election, before this year’s election, according to a source with direct knowledge of the call.
As administrator, Murphy is the person tasked with officially affirming President-elect Joe Biden has won the election on behalf of the Trump administration — something Trump hasn't done himself.
She needs to sign a letter to release funds to the Biden transition team through a process called ascertainment. This would mark the first formal acknowledgment from the Trump administration that Biden has in fact won the election, but it would also unlock access to national security tools to streamline background checks and additional funds to pay for training and incoming staff.
Barram, a Bill Clinton political appointee, ascertained Bush as then winner of the 2000 election following the historic Bush v Gore recounted that ended up in the Supreme Court.
The call between Barram and Murphy was set up by mutual associates as a way for him to discuss his experience with her, the source said.
Recently, post-election, Barram said that this year’s election is “dramatically different,” than what happened in 2000. “It was all about Florida. One state, and something like 537 votes. Everyone knew that once Florida was settled, the winner would become clear,” Barram has said.
Murphy has still not issued an ascertainment letter that would officially trigger the transition period for the federal government.
AP first reported on the call between Barram and Murphy.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Her reputation was established long before she took up the Flynn case. Go read her bio she’s a fairly high powered attorney and former fed prosecutor. You see Turley and Dershowitz on Fox a lot too and are routinely quoted and their credentials are impeccable. Neither are Trump supporters or even Republicans.
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I'm all for hearing her out, and I get that Trump screaming Biden cheated is probably giving her more attention than would normally be given. However, if evidence comes to light after the transition that Trump and/or his surrogates perpetrated election fraud, I doubt the GOP outcry will be anything but "witch hunt".
 
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volfanhill said:
I am not as publicly cocky but I have no problem putting my money where my mouth is on this.
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I don’t have a problem with you and I can banter with anyone to a point. He is overboard with the name calling, and being despicable. I’m probably his most hated type person, an old white man.
But, sometimes enough is enough.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I'm all for hearing her out, and I get that Trump screaming Biden cheated is probably giving her more attention than would normally be given. However, if evidence comes to light after the transition that Trump and/or his surrogates perpetrated election fraud, I doubt the GOP outcry will be anything but "witch hunt".
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Trumps Twitter rants are as usual back ground noise. If she can back up what she has claimed and she has also claimed she has evidence then we are officially a banana republic. In fact we’re lower since the banana republic developed the capability and we acquired it FFS 😥
 
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Stew Cook said:
I'm all for hearing her out, and I get that Trump screaming Biden cheated is probably giving her more attention than would normally be given. However, if evidence comes to light after the transition that Trump and/or his surrogates perpetrated election fraud, I doubt the GOP outcry will be anything but "witch hunt".
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Oh and if it’s actually proven Trump or his surrogates perpetrated election fraud I’ll be out front leading the lock them up chant.

That whole proof thing is needed on all of this.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
They still think the Clintons run a child sex ring in the pizza joint. no they run it thru Clinton Foundation, They think Joe Biden has dementia. I don’t know what he has but he is corrupt, They think President Obama is a Muslim, I don’t know what he is but he is very suspect and a damn divider, that was born in Kenya, not sure where but can you prove where he was born and not that phony birth certificate They think donald is a successful business man bet you would trade his financial resources for yours,. So I am going to go out on a limb and say no....
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but you still think Russia intervened in 2016 election,
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The Who gains what isn’t relevant to me. The process losing/misplaying votes is proof positive that we have serious problems in our elections.
I’d like to see some people answer questions on how it happened without telling me the party affiliation of the people involved.
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They've already answered. It was a stupid oversight. The only one found so far, none from the big bad dem counties.
 
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MontyPython said:
Oh, dear. I think the election results were officially eaten.

Trump agency official tasked with transition process had pre-election talk with predecessor who handled 2000
From CNN's Kristen Holmes


dbe1521a-9cbc-406f-91a3-21fc9ec2b6bf.jpg
General Services Administration Administrator Emily Murphy speaks at the Department of Homeland Security's St. Elizabeths Campus Center Building in Washington, DC on June 21, 2019. Susan Walsh/AP

General Services Administrator Emily Murphy had a call with David Barram, the GSA administrator during the 2000 election, before this year’s election, according to a source with direct knowledge of the call.
As administrator, Murphy is the person tasked with officially affirming President-elect Joe Biden has won the election on behalf of the Trump administration — something Trump hasn't done himself.
She needs to sign a letter to release funds to the Biden transition team through a process called ascertainment. This would mark the first formal acknowledgment from the Trump administration that Biden has in fact won the election, but it would also unlock access to national security tools to streamline background checks and additional funds to pay for training and incoming staff.
Barram, a Bill Clinton political appointee, ascertained Bush as then winner of the 2000 election following the historic Bush v Gore recounted that ended up in the Supreme Court.
The call between Barram and Murphy was set up by mutual associates as a way for him to discuss his experience with her, the source said.
Recently, post-election, Barram said that this year’s election is “dramatically different,” than what happened in 2000. “It was all about Florida. One state, and something like 537 votes. Everyone knew that once Florida was settled, the winner would become clear,” Barram has said.
Murphy has still not issued an ascertainment letter that would officially trigger the transition period for the federal government.
AP first reported on the call between Barram and Murphy.
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You sound like Trump.
 
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