2020 Presidential Race

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Stew Cook said:
And yet some people won't wear a mask, if for no other reason to help prevent further shutdowns and further job losses.

A little selfish, don't ya think?
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No. Cloth masks do not stop covid. Places like Nashville have shutdowns and mask mandate everywhere, even when outside LOL yet and yet cases are still high. If masks were so great the would be over by now
 
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GSD82 said:
I would much rather get covid than the flu. A lot of people don't even know they have covid. And as far as the deaths, you should really be upset with people like Cuomo who are forcing covid patients to stay in nursing homes.
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That’s fine for you personally but lots of people disagree, and if wearing a mask will help prevent that it’s literally the least you can do. If you believe masks help is irrelevant because the data says otherwise
 
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GSD82 said:
No. Cloth masks do not stop covid. Places like Nashville have shutdowns and mask mandate everywhere, even when outside LOL yet and yet cases are still high. If masks were so great the would be over by now
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And it doesn’t matter what kind of mask. Just having something on your face suffices.
 
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TennesseeTopHat said:
That’s fine for you personally but lots of people disagree, and if wearing a mask will help prevent that it’s literally the least you can do. If you believe masks help is irrelevant because the data says otherwise
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Then explain to me why places like Nashville are still having a lot of cases. They have a mandate even when outside, and their mandate has been in place for several months. Masks don't work, your side just enjoys forcing this schiff on people
 
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GSD82 said:
Then explain to me why places like Nashville are still having a lot of cases. They have a mandate even when outside, and their mandate has been in place for several months. Masks don't work, your side just enjoys forcing this schiff on people
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There’s a lot of other things at play. Broadway is still open and packed (with no masks), restaurants are still operating, schools are still in session. Masks are only part of it and no one is claiming they are 100% effective. They do help and the studies prove that but it needs high rates of participation. It’s like telling me you’re doing your part to not litter and then asking why there’s still trash in the ground. Answer: a lot of people aren’t complying and are actively working against the process.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
There is no doubt that fraud has occurred. You haven't even tried to explain away the irregularities and you haven't listened at all to the witnesses and yet you are dismissing the idea that fraud took place.

Again, what is the most susceptible voting method to fraud? Is it not mail in balloting? It is, as people from both parties have been saying for decades. We had more mail in votes this year than ever before, and the democrats literally filed litigation to allow for this and also to seek less accountability in these voting methods. Further, in spite of having the most mail in ballots than ever before, the rejection rate was far less than ever before. The rejection rate for mail in ballots in GA in 2016 was over 6%. This year, the rejection rate, in spite of there being far more mail in ballots, was .2%. Explain that.

Further, explain why every "mistake" that they have found favored Biden. Every one. You would think that if these "glitches" were accidents, then some would have favored Trump. But no, they have all favored Biden. I'm sure that's just coincidence.

We could go on and on with other irregularities that indicate fraud. You just continue to dismiss them for no reason other than you do not want it to be true, or you don't care.
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What “mistakes” that favored Biden are you talking about? In the recount in WI one county resulted in more votes for Trump and one resulted in more votes for Biden with a net gain for Biden.

And idk why you keep wanting me, a non-expert in all of these things, to explain everything to you.

If these things were so clear an easy to see, you’d think it’d be more provable in court, eh? Or the courts rigged?

If it was so easy to find these irregularities that would be evidence of widespread fraud, you’d think the DOJ would be able to find it, eh? Or is Bill Barr a “deep state” operative?

You’re residing in an alternate reality where you don’t believe credible sources and experts and only believe fantastical tales because you so desperately wish for them to be true.
 
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GSD82 said:
No. Cloth masks do not stop covid. Places like Nashville have shutdowns and mask mandate everywhere, even when outside LOL yet and yet cases are still high. If masks were so great the would be over by now
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Seems like a good opportunity to show off how smart you are by wearing an N95.

But you aren't in the anti÷masker sanctuary thread at the moment, so I'll ask you to qualify your "does not stop Covid" assertion. So, you are saying it does nothing, or are the benefits marginal, in your assessment?
 
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GSD82 said:
Then explain to me why places like Nashville are still having a lot of cases. They have a mandate even when outside, and their mandate has been in place for several months. Masks don't work, your side just enjoys forcing this schiff on people
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Because people like you thumb their noses at the mandate and do everything they can get around it and gather without regard for others. Japan is proof that masks work when everyone does what they're supposed to. Why do they only have 2k cases total?
 
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MarcoVol said:
Why “mistakes” that favored Biden are you talking about? In the recount in WI one county resulted in more votes for Trump and one resulted in more votes for Biden with a net gain for Biden.

And idk why you keep wanting me, a non-expert in all of these things, to explain everything to you.

If these things were so clear an easy to see, you’d think it’d be more provable in court, eh? Or the courts rigged?

If it was so easy to find these irregularities that would be evidence of widespread fraud, you’d think the DOJ would be able to find it, eh? Or is Bill Barr a “deep state” operative?

You’re residing in an alternate reality where you don’t believe credible sources and experts and only believe fantastical tales because you so desperately wish for them to be true.
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The Trump campaign has filed 3 lawsuits that are still being heard. The courts haven't decided anything. You've believed a lie. And here you go calling me a conspiracy theorists after you've been alleging conspiracy theories all morning.

You're residing in an alternate reality where you allow yourself to assume that hundreds of eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits are liars because it makes you feel better.
 
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Ashevolle said:
Because people like you thumb their noses at the mandate and do everything they can get around it and gather without regard for others. Japan is proof of concept. Why do they only have 2k cases?
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Because they limit people from visiting and staying and have NO illegal immigration and most people live in large families there AND they utilize cleanliness and hygiene as part of their basic culture before COVID
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The Trump campaign has filed 3 lawsuits that are still being heard. The courts haven't decided anything. You've believed a lie. And here you go calling me a conspiracy theorists after you've been alleging conspiracy theories all morning.

You're residing in an alternate reality where you allow yourself to assume that hundreds of eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits are liars because it makes you feel better.
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Care to offer your top 10 affidavits?
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The Trump campaign has filed 3 lawsuits that are still being heard. The courts haven't decided anything. You've believed a lie. And here you go calling me a conspiracy theorists after you've been alleging conspiracy theories all morning.

You're residing in an alternate reality where you allow yourself to assume that hundreds of eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits are liars because it makes you feel better.
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And when these 3 lawsuits go nowhere, then what excuse do you turn to?
 
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Ashevolle said:
Because people like you thumb their noses at the mandate and do everything they can get around it and gather without regard for others. Japan is proof that masks work when everyone does what they're supposed to. Why do they only have 2k cases total?
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Again places like Nashville will ticket and in some cases arrest people for not wearing a mask. 99.9999999% of the people are walking around with the mask. Why are there still cases in these places?
 
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MarcoVol said:
And when these 3 lawsuits go nowhere, then what excuse do you turn to?
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Again, you haven't listened to anything I've said and continue to attribute things to me that aren't true. If the courts do not think there is anything there, I will go with whoever the electors vote for when they actually vote. I just want the courts to hear them, and they should hear them if they care about truth.

You don't care because it went your way, and simply believe that hundreds of your fellow Americans are lying.
 
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tim said:

what’s the issue with investigating this and other issues?
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Because in his fairy tale land that he lives in there's nothing to see there. The democrats who lied about Russian collusion for 4 years would never try to cheat in an election. They are honest, and only care about fairness and truth and what's best for the American people.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
The Trump campaign has filed 3 lawsuits that are still being heard. The courts haven't decided anything. You've believed a lie. And here you go calling me a conspiracy theorists after you've been alleging conspiracy theories all morning.

You're residing in an alternate reality where you allow yourself to assume that hundreds of eyewitnesses who have signed affidavits are liars because it makes you feel better.
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Where did you get your Georgia data showing a 6% rejection rate in 2016 vs. none in 2020? I provided two links showing otherwise
 
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Stew Cook said:
Seems like a good opportunity to show off how smart you are by wearing an N95.

But you aren't in the anti÷masker sanctuary thread at the moment, so I'll ask you to qualify your "does not stop Covid" assertion. So, you are saying it does nothing, or are the benefits marginal, in your assessment?
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Nothing. One example is at my sisters work she has about 20 people who work there, only 1 guy is paranoid he wears a mask at work and when he goes to the grocery store, that's the only place he goes. The others don't wear masks and still live normal lives. Any guesses as to who got covid and who didn't?
 
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TennesseeTopHat said:
There’s a lot of other things at play. Broadway is still open and packed (with no masks), restaurants are still operating, schools are still in session. Masks are only part of it and no one is claiming they are 100% effective. They do help and the studies prove that but it needs high rates of participation. It’s like telling me you’re doing your part to not litter and then asking why there’s still trash in the ground. Answer: a lot of people aren’t complying and are actively working against the process.
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Broadway is partially open and yes they are all wearing masks. There are cops patrolling the sidewalk just to make sure everyone is obeying.
 
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GSD82 said:
Nothing. One example is at my sisters work she has about 20 people who work there, only 1 guy is paranoid he wears a mask at work and when he goes to the grocery store, that's the only place he goes. The others don't wear masks and still live normal lives. Any guesses as to who got covid and who didn't?
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No guesses, but ill just offer something to you. It wouldn't matter of you were wearing a window screen over your mouth, you would get less Covid on in your mouth or face than with nothing.. cold and flu season ya know.. which would you rather have in presence of a sneeze or cough, cloth mask or nothing?

I guess one could argue more Covid is better than less, but I just can't see having more on your face or in your mouth as being better.
 
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GSD82 said:
Again places like Nashville will ticket and in some cases arrest people for not wearing a mask. 99.9999999% of the people are walking around with the mask. Why are there still cases in these places?
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Do you think Nashville is a bubble where people don't come and go? Do you think people like you go home and refuse to have guests over to help spread transmission? One city's measures cant do anything alone. You need basically 100% of the country to act right. Again, look at Japan, New Zealand, Denmark.
 
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Stew Cook said:
No guesses, but ill just offer something to you. It wouldn't matter of you were wearing a window screen over your mouth, you would get less Covid on in your mouth or face than with nothing.. cold and flu season ya know.. which would you rather have in presence of a sneeze or cough, cloth mask or nothing?

I guess one could argue more Covid is better than less, but I just can't see having more on your face or in your mouth as being better.
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By your line of thinking then we should be like China and should always wear a mask going forward and should have always been wearing one
 
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