2020 Presidential Race

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zeppelin128 said:
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Yep. Those 2 make it cool, for sure.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Trump has checked out, he should just resign now so we can put this disastrous presidency in the rear view mirror.
Thousands dying daily from Covid, no stimulus deal, a Russian hack and all Trump wants to do is pardon people and spew election conspiracy theories.
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I can't wait for Joe. No more people dying from covid. He told us that he is going to shut down the virus, not the country.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Like I said, if China was believed to be responsible for such a bold and aggressive cyber attack against both the American government and American corporate entities, Trump would be tweeting non-stop about it right now.... but because it's his buddy Putin - we get nothing but the sound of crickets chirping.
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Wow, you are still singing that tune? LOL
 
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volfanhill said:
The fraud arguments were dead on arrival if you just look at down ballot voting. Turns out Americans don't like Trump and don't like rioting. I am not sure why this is hard for people to understand. It's why Pelosi got ripped on a post election Dem leadership call.
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Because Trump got a higher percentage of votes when compared to total registered voters so his popularity actually increased but you all are trying to say the opposite. It doesn’t make sense. That’s the issue I have is that there are things like that about this election that don’t seem to add up. However, without concrete proof, which is yet to be provided, I don’t see how anything can be done about it. So it is what it is, at least until it isn’t.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Last I checked, we still operated on a system of innocent until proven guilty. This extends to all areas of public life, including the election. Trump and friends have had weeks to prove massive fraud in court, millions of dollars to afford top notch legal representation, the complete backing of the GOP, and a fairly large chunk of the electorate behind them. They have had ample opportunities, almost 60 different lawsuits I believe. And they have failed over, and over, and over and over to prove it. When someone accuses someone of shenanigans, it is on the person doing the accusing to prove it. That is how this works. I don't care about tweets, I don't care about anything said on here. They have had over a month to present something, anything, that will stick in court. And they have failed, repeatedly. It is done. Trump lost.
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Then why the hell did Dems impeach the President if this is still a country of innocent until proven guilty? Dems only believe that when it serves their purpose but I agree that is supposed to be the standard.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Then why the hell did Dems impeach the President if this is still a country of innocent until proven guilty? Dems only believe that when it serves their purpose but I agree that is supposed to be the standard.
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Who said he wasn't guilty of what he was accused of? The senate decided it wasn't worth removing him from office over it. That's a pretty big difference.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
Who said he wasn't guilty of what he was accused of? The senate decided it wasn't worth removing him from office over it. That's a pretty big difference.
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Because he would have been removed from office. Maybe Biden should stop having highly questionable activities committed by members of his family with or without his involvement and knowledge. As we’re seeing now, there were things going on that were worth investigating. And what about all the Russian BS? Or how about Kavanaugh? We could do this all day where Dems and the MSM declare someone guilty before an the facts are out, before trials are held, and certainly without proof of guilt. I won’t say Reps never do it but it happens constantly with Dems and the MSM.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Per a tweet on Axios (20 minutes ago):

A Trump administration official tells Axios that the cyber attack on the U.S. government and corporate America, apparently by Russia, is looking worse by the day - and secrets could still be stolen in ways not yet discovered.

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It is not normal that the White House has not released a statement concerning something this serious in the 5 days since these reports broke. I'm not talking about reprisals, or even a direct response to Russia. How about some acknowledgment that the leadership of the United States government is aware of this story, and they are at least looking into it? Even Fox News has picked up the story now. For some reason, the White House doesn't want to go near it. I don't think they can hide from this for another month.

Had China been responsible for this? Trump and his minions in Congress would be tripping over each other to talk about it.
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I guess they could’ve just sent a spy to sleep with members of Congress to get information.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Then why the hell did Dems impeach the President if this is still a country of innocent until proven guilty? Dems only believe that when it serves their purpose but I agree that is supposed to be the standard.
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Not a criminal case. Or even in a court. Technically they can impeach he for just about anything. Even getting bjs from a side piece.
 
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LouderVol said:
Not a criminal case. Or even in a court. Technically they can impeach he for just about anything. Even getting bjs from a side piece.
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Technically yes but where is the respect for that office, even if you don’t respect the man in it? We all know Trump is a blowhard but that impeachment was a sham, as was the Mueller BS, the Kavanaugh nonsense, the uproar over the kid with the MAGA hat, and on and on and on. When something pops up against a Dem that is worth at least questioning or investigating suddenly the Dems and MSM are all about innocent until proven guilty.
 
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