2020 Presidential Race

[BowlBrother85]

He knew what you all would put his family through, he knows what you antifa thugs are capable of. You all wanted to push COVID to make it easier to cheat through mail in voting.
No it’s not the end of the world but it certainly changes every election going forward now that you all know you can cheat and get away with it. Life will go on but it will go on with less $$ in my pocket. Again I hope this regime fails at every thing they attempt and the dementia patient is used to failing

You can read his mind? I can read his ruling, and he leaves no room for doubt as to his opinion of the Trump Campaign's case. Your grapes are especially sour this afternoon. LOL.

 

[Velo Vol]

And Lin Wood? Hahaha

He seems like a top-notch lawyer.

 

[headhunter15]

Look who is front and center.

 

[BenGrimm]

Pence doesn't want to be in the middle of a crisis. He's basically a coward like the rest of DC - people who are where they are and have no intention of doing anything to rock the boat.

The only crisis would be created if he went along with it. Can’t blame someone for not wanting to be a part of that.

 

[AshG]

You can read his mind? I can read his ruling, and he leaves no room for doubt as to his opinion of the Trump Campaign's case. Your grapes are especially sour this afternoon. LOL.

Repeating evidence over and over to someone who has wilfully devoted themselves to ignoring the evidence does no good.

I've read the judicial replies, talked about them with lawyers, discussed them with GOP members who are not Trumpublicans. The consensus among those whose opinions actually bear actionable weight is that there is no case. Never has been.

Those in the country with half a brain knew we were going to see the rank and file set up to march over the cliff from the moment the "Alternative facts" interview aired.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Look who is front and center.

The one leading the charge is the one w/the bigger balls.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Admittedly, this is way off topic, but it's too good not to post here...

Per CNN, the "entertainment" for last night's New Year's Eve bash at Mar-a-Lago, included Vanilla Ice - of 30 year old one hit wonder fame. Unfortunately, President Trump couldn't make it. I bet that was a helluva party. LOL.

 

[GSD82]

Look who is front and center.

I absolutely despise that tramp

 

[RavinDave]

The one leading the charge is the one w/the bigger balls.

You mean the only one WITH balls?

 

[AM64]

This isn't a crisis. Every challenge has been laughed at by the courts. Voter machine companies are threatening lawsuits and media companies, including OAN Fox and newsmax, are issuing retractions. There was no grand conspiracy. Oh and if there was, The Who just lost should have stopped it. Bye bye Donnie.

It's not a crisis unless Pence's hand is forced - that's the crisis I'm talking about - the one he wants no part of.

 

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[W.TN.Orange Blood]

You mean the only one WITH balls?

Yeah ...... the other one has seen better days w/little kids jumping on his lap.

 

[AM64]

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The best way to describe all this is "Never have so many been presented an argument actually heard by so few." The amazing part is that all this has nothing really to do with who won or lost but everything to do with the flawed process - particularly a poorly conceived mail in scheme hurriedly rushed through without adequate adult supervision - and with illegal changes made to the process along the way - generally by courts rather than legislators as required. Another reason courts don't want any part of the challenges. The flaws in the process could have been predicted by pretty much anyone with a fifth grade education using independent thought.

 

[Wafflestomper]

You're wrong. The media you consume has failed you. Take Lin Wood's case for example. It was ruled that it had no standing because everyone's vote in Georgia was said to be diluted because of the way the election was ran there. Think about that, it wasn't denied that the election was ran contrary to the law it was ruled that the outcome would be the same because all voters in Georgia had the same injury.

I think if you look at the ruling you'll see that Wood was seeking relief on the runoff election, which hasn't occurred yet (or not completely at least). Most of this document is explaining why Wood lacks standing. This is not an ad hoc legal move as cases are frequently dismissed for standing.

His complaint is that proceeding as-is will cause himself undue harm as a person of a disadvantaged class of voter (i.e., one who is not breaking the law). The judge reminds him that no one has a right to commit voter fraud and that he is speculating as to whether the fraud he's alleging will even occur. Thus, he's also speculating as to his future legal injury and his claim does not satisfy the second of four criteria given (on page 4) for issuance of a temporary restraining order; therefore the judge does not have to consider his complaints based on the merits (criterion #1).

 

[RavinDave]

Yeah ...... the other one has seen better days w/little kids jumping on his lap.

Ole Foghorn Leghair. He reminds me of the locust exoskeletons I see clinging to my stacks of pallets outside the warehouse.

There was evidently something inside at one time, but now he's just a husk of his former self.

He made his deal with the devil; let history judge who had the upper hand on that one.

 

[tnmarktx]

I think if you look at the ruling you'll see that Wood was seeking relief on the runoff election, which hasn't occurred yet (or not completely at least). Most of this document is explaining why Wood lacks standing. This is not an ad hoc legal move as cases are frequently dismissed for standing.

His complaint is that proceeding as-is will cause himself undue harm as a person of a disadvantaged class of voter (i.e., one who is not breaking the law). The judge reminds him that no one has a right to commit voter fraud and that he is speculating as to whether the fraud he's alleging will even occur. Thus, he's also speculating as to his future legal injury and his claim does not satisfy the second of four criteria given (on page 4) for issuance of a temporary restraining order; therefore the judge does not have to consider his complaints based on the merits (criterion #1).

Point being, no evidentiary hearing was to be held. Blows the statement out of the water that there is no evience because the courts say so.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Point being, no evidentiary hearing was to be held. Blows the statement out of the water that there is no evience because the courts say so.

The court could not issue the restraining order based on lack of standing. What would be the point of a hearing? What evidence of imminent future harm does he have that is not based on speculation, and if he has it, why was it not presented earlier?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I absolutely despise that tramp

 

[AM64]

The court could not issue the restraining order based on lack of standing. What would be the point of a hearing? What evidence of imminent future harm does he have that is not based on speculation, and if he has it, why was it not presented earlier?

To perhaps determine the possibility/likelihood of further harm? If it had been presented earlier - like before there actually was evidence of problems after the counting started, it would have been more speculative and more easily dismissed?

The courts:

 

[tnmarktx]

The court could not issue the restraining order based on lack of standing. What would be the point of a hearing? What evidence of imminent future harm does he have that is not based on speculation, and if he has it, why was it not presented earlier?

It was my understanding per Wood that equal protection was violated because of vote dilution due to elections being run differently in areas that came from a consent agreement between the SOS and Stacy Abrams. He was seeking the whole election be thrown out in Georgia. A new election to be held for the down ballot and the presidetial results to be decided by the state legislature. Evidence would have to provided as to how equal protection was violated and was not allowed.

 

[clarksvol00]

It was my understanding per Wood that equal protection was violated because of vote dilution due to elections being run differently in areas that came from a consent agreement between the SOS and Stacy Abrams. He was seeking the whole election be thrown out in Georgia. A new election to be held for the down ballot and the presidetial results to be decided by the state legislature. Evidence would have to provided as to how equal protection was violated and was not allowed.

Why would he want a new election down ballot but not for the presidential election?

 

[tnmarktx]

Why would he want a new election down ballot but not for the presidential election?

I believe he felt that the election was not valid to it being ran contrary to the way it had been decided upon by the state legislature and it being ran differently in certain areas. I don't believe presidential election could be held again.

 

[GSD82]

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I hate you, now that’s all I can hear with that smart ass smirk

 

[tvolsfan]

The best way to describe all this is "Never have so many been presented an argument actually heard by so few." The amazing part is that all this has nothing really to do with who won or lost but everything to do with the flawed process - particularly a poorly conceived mail in scheme hurriedly rushed through without adequate adult supervision - and with illegal changes made to the process along the way - generally by courts rather than legislators as required. Another reason courts don't want any part of the challenges. The flaws in the process could have been predicted by pretty much anyone with a fifth grade education using independent thought.

Only the last sentence is correct, but the flaws were due to laws that allowed Trump to falsely claim victory before all the votes were counted.