2024 Presidential Race

[norrislakevol]

Yet not cognitively-impaired enough that he's unable to finish out his term? If Trump were in a cell right now and Biden had a 25+ point advantage in the polls, seeing states like Tennessee, Kentucky and Utah register as "lean Dem" on the maps, there's absolutely no way that your ilk would be pressing the panic button. This is only because Biden is polling poorly despite 15 million voters backing him in the primaries.

The left only cares about power, and they will do and say anything to attain it, and keep it.

 

[luthervol]

You haven't proven your point.

Nearly two-thirds of Democrats want Biden to withdraw, new AP-NORC poll finds

The new poll sharply undercuts President Biden's post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him.

apnews.com

The article you linked to polled 1,253 people over 5 days, from July 11th - July 15th.
1253 - 65% = 814.45. (Let's round up)
815 Dems want Biden to resign.

2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

From Jan 23rd to June 8th, 16,610,102 people voted in the Democratic primaries. Biden received 14,465,519 (87%) votes.

Aside from votes actuary mattering more than polls, voter turnout in the primaries was over 13K times larger than the participation in that poll.


It is absurd to make that assertion with the limited sample of empirical data you've provided.

You're parroting 'CurrentThing' from media talking heads.

It is absurd to reject that assertion.
Do you honestly believe that if every single person who voted in the primary were asked, the majority would like to see Biden remain on the ticket?

If so you are clueless and /or have no understanding of polling and statistics.

 

[volfanhill]

It is absurd to reject that assertion.
Do you honestly believe that if every single person who voted in the primary were asked, the majority would like to see Biden remain on the ticket?

If so you are clueless and /or have no understanding of polling and statistics.

I don't think he would get 50%. But I don't pretend to know how he would do if you actually ran a real primary. Kind of like you all should have done.

 

[luthervol]

Is he competent now?

Mush more so than he will be in four years.

 

[luthervol]

Yet not cognitively-impaired enough that he's unable to finish out his term? If Trump were in a cell right now and Biden had a 25+ point advantage in the polls, seeing states like Tennessee, Kentucky and Utah register as "lean Dem" on the maps, there's absolutely no way that your ilk would be pressing the panic button. This is only because Biden is polling poorly despite 15 million voters backing him in the primaries.

It's because he is cognitively-impaired and getting worse.
Plain and simple.
The right can try and twist it all they want, but it changes nothing.

 

[volfanhill]

Mush more so than he will be in four years.

Mush is correct

 

[luthervol]

I don't think he would get 50%. But I don't pretend to know how he would do if you actually ran a real primary. Kind of like you all should have done.

Things are vastly different now.

But at least we can agree that a majority of people who voted in the primary would like to see Biden replaced.

 

[StarRaider]

Joe Manchin joins four Democratic senators in calling for President Biden to drop out

Sen. Joe Manchin joined four of his Senate Democratic colleagues in calling on President Biden to step aside and allow “a new generation” to come forward and take up the mantle.

nypost.com

Chances that the new greed deal radical leftists would nominate Manchin? <1%?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Nobody cares if you leave the country you idiot. So get out.
What makes these narcissistic people think if they leave we will actually miss them?
I haven't even thought about this person in 20 years. She's an actress or was at 1 time.

I'd contribute to a goFundme for 1 way tickets for these loosers. As long as they can't come back.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I don't think he would get 50%. But I don't pretend to know how he would do if you actually ran a real primary. Kind of like you all should have done.

There is a valid reason I went ahead and blocked him. I would say Luther is unfit to vote. What he is really saying is, he wants who he wants when he wants it.

From luther.

But at least we can agree that a majority of people who voted in the primary would like to see Biden replaced.

He can be replaced. You have a wide variety of candidates to choose from. If the people want Biden replaced and actually voted as Luther said, Biden will be replaced.

Basically, he is just upset that his candidate might lose at this stage.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

It's because he is cognitively-impaired and getting worse.
Plain and simple.
The right can try and twist it all they want, but it changes nothing.

But it’s fine for him to remain at the helm of this country for another six months?

 

[InVOLuntary]

So we are obviously in agreement that Biden should not be the '24 nominee.

We can finally move away from that nonsense.

Leading you guys to that admission shouldn't have been that difficult.

What changed since he won the primary? He was dementia-in-chief a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. What changed was his tanking in the polls.

 

[luthervol]

But it’s fine for him to remain at the helm of this country for another six months?

It's more fine for him to serve 6 more moths than four and half more years.

If people feel strongly that he should be removed immediately, then they should be working to make that happen.

Are there repubs making the circuit today demanding that dems remove him?

If so, great.
If not, why not?

 

[LSU-SIU]

It's more fine for him to serve 6 more moths than four and half more years.

If people feel strongly that he should be removed immediately, then they should be working to make that happen.

Are there repubs making the circuit today demanding that dems remove him?

If so, great.
If not, why not?

No, what they are saying is people like you are not acting in "good faith", meaning you are saying he should be removed from the ticket because he is unfit.

This has been explained to you many times.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

It's more fine for him to serve 6 more moths than four and half more years.

If people feel strongly that he should be removed immediately, then they should be working to make that happen.

Are there repubs making the circuit today demanding that dems remove him?

If so, great.
If not, why not?

You made the claim that he's cognitively-impaired and, I quote, "getting worse." If the Democratic Party "thinks" like you do and wants him off of the ballot, then they need to put on their big-boy pants and get him out of office today.

You want to have your cake and eat it too in the hopes that it bolsters your chances in November, which is an utter joke.

 

[luthervol]

What changed since he won the primary? He was dementia-in-chief a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. What changed was his tanking in the polls.

lol.
Do you think his condition is worsening? If so, you answered your own question.

 

[LSU-SIU]

lol.
Do you think his condition is worsening? If so, you answered your own question.

No, you are the one trying get him removed from the ticket. You are the one making the claims which is what the dems are doing i.e. corrupt, evil, not acting good faith, etc.

There isn't anything complex about this.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

lol.
Do you think his condition is worsening? If so, you answered your own question.

Of course it's worsening, you're just pretending that it magically became a problem at some point after Super Tuesday when that is not remotely how cognitive decline works. You had no issue with Joe's mental health when the electoral outlook was sunny, and conveniently have no issue with his acuity as it pertains to leading this country today yet enough of an issue that being on the ballot in November is a non-starter.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Of course it's worsening, you're just pretending that it magically became a problem at some point after Super Tuesday when that is not remotely how cognitive decline works. You had no issue with Joe's mental health when the electoral outlook was sunny, and conveniently have no issue with his acuity as it pertains to leading this country today yet enough of an issue that being on the ballot in November is a non-starter.

Luther isn't acting in good faith, he's not going to act in good faith in this discussion... he thinks everything is fine as long as he gets his way.

My guess is luther is around Biden's age and has a serious case of TDS.

 

[InVOLuntary]

lol.
Do you think his condition is worsening? If so, you answered your own question.

Sure it is but not that much since the primaries. He's been a bumbling fool since he took office. If he were up in the polls, you guys wouldn't be saying a peep about replacing him. Did you really need to see the debate come to the conclusion he shouldn't run?

 

[luthervol]

Of course it's worsening, you're just pretending that it magically became a problem at some point after Super Tuesday when that is not remotely how cognitive decline works. You had no issue with Joe's mental health when the electoral outlook was sunny, and conveniently have no issue with his acuity as it pertains to leading this country today yet enough of an issue that being on the ballot in November is a non-starter.

I said he shouldn't be the nominee in 2020.
I said the 25th should have been invoked beginning in 2021.
I said he shouldn't be the nominee in 2024.
I didn't vote for him in either primary.

He will be removed (or resign) from the 2024 ticket, as all agree is appropriate.

As far as finishing up his last 6 months, I do not really care. Remove him or leave him - makes little to no difference - the same people will be making the critical decisions either way.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[hUTch2002]

I posted this a month or so ago.
Good breakdown and update.

Biden’s biggest challenge: How do you even spend $1.6 trillion?

President Joe Biden is racing to spend money to green the economy, outcompete China and fix crumbling roadways in hopes voters reward him in November.

www.politico.com

Boondoggle if you ask me..I dont mind roads and bridges, or even Chips, but ROI on Green Energy is nothing but an Obama Solyndra.

How are the roadways still crumbling if Biden fixed that with his infrastructure bill?

 

[hUTch2002]

JD Vance should be asked if he thinks that Kamala Harris has the authority during the formal process of certification, to refuse to count electoral college votes from states she loses in November. JD Vance did claim that Mike Pence had that right on January 6, 2021. It's a totally fair question to ask of him.

If the process is followed technically she does have that authority, right?

 

[hUTch2002]

JD Vance says he's wouldn't have certified 2020 race until states submitted pro-Trump electors

Sen. JD Vance on Sunday defended Trump as the former president faces a litany of legal issues amid his comeback campaign for the White House

abcnews.go.com

^^^^ There it is. ^^^^

"JD Vance says that he wouldn't have certified 2020 race until states submitted pro-Trump electors."

It is completely fair to ask him if Kamala Harris has this same authority. JD Vance is a loon.

He would be really stupid to talk about 2020. There’s nothing good there for him or Trump. It would be better to just say 2020 is done, Biden has been and is POTUS and we’re focused on this upcoming election, not what happened 4 years ago. And then just shut up about that topic.