2024 Presidential Race

Here, let me help you with a short list of all who actively carried water for Biden in this forum -

Tvolsfan
LawGator
EL
Luther
Clearwater
BowlBrother
Velo
Devo
Turbo
TNRibs
Swampfoxfan
LostSheep
Hunerwadel
Nashvol
Woodsman
MontyPython
Jackrevol
K-Town
Dobbs4Heisman
BerryVol
VolinMichigan
VolTull
BernardKing
SinCityVol
Bnhunt
OHvol40
Ashevolle
SwampfoxVol
RebKell
Hey now, I’ll carry water for him. It’s heavy and I don’t want him to hurt himself. I’d also take his grocery cart for him.
 
I would change your analogy to this....the two choices are liver and chicken nuggets. I'm no fan of chicken nuggets and would never order them for a meal.......unless the only other choice was worse.

I hate liver and the thought of having that daily for lunch for the rest of the school year is repulsive.
I'm going to vote against liver by placing my vote for the only other viable choice....even though it's a choice I do no like.

I've said that if the two choices are relatively equal - vote 3rd party or don't vote.
But if the two choices are not relatively equal - it makes no sense to not vote your preference.

But that isn't the truth, you have a whole menu.
 
"pro abortion"

Always found that a funny way to spin choice.

The outcome is the same.

Imagine how a slave would feel if someone said, "I'm not pro-slavery, I'm pro-choice." I'm sure that would be encouraging. The buggy banner would read, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one."

Personally, I'm against child abuse, but I could never tell someone else not to do that because I would be imposing my values upon them. I'm just staying above the issue and allowing each person to make his/her/zir choice. That way, I can sleep well at night, knowing that I'm maximizing personal freedoms and not infringing upon the rights of others re: their own property.
 
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That's tough to do because the MAGA resentment class wants to see fireworks and anger. Insults. All the things they feel they can't say themselves in every day conversation.
In your deranged brain that's been told to believe that, they do. But that's it.

In reality, we just want the government to leave us alone, secure the Southern border, allow us to produce our own energy, stop shoving a "progressive" agenda down our throats, and keep the nation safe from our enemies.
 
Why do I vex my detractors? It won't change anything at all, because they are who and what they are. The most recent bile spewed my way is not reading Kamie's statements (actually, I already had done so), thus, was being unreasonable, scared, and unintelligent. Or something along those lines. The assumption is I'm an automatic Kamie kuddler. My accusers knowingly make this false claim and assumption. Typical MAGA smearing, nothing new. Now, anyone can fact-check me on this by looking up my past statements. Here are a few.

1, The thought of Kamala as President terrifies me.
2. I don't believe Kamala has the background or experience, especially in foreign affairs, to be President.
3. This election year is a mess, I don't know who I'm going to vote for.
4. I may vote for that Kennedy guybe
5. I think Kamala is too much activist centered, focused on demands of activists and others to Presidential.

That's just a few of my statements. The MAGAs and stealth MAGAs are solely focused on doing the Trump dump. What's that? Meaning, painting those who think different in every negative way they can think of. Then, when you return the favor, they want to accuse you of dodging real discussions. And/or playing the victim. When in reality they are the verbal thugs. OK, why am I such a lightning rod, or as they put it, turbo? Well, two reasons, I tend to play with bigots, racists, biased, and other social thugs just for the heil of it. Two, is I dare to call them out, and the more they try to discredit, accuse, attack, ridicule, divert, dismiss, deny, and lie, I tend to return the favor. Return it with humor, mockery, disdain, basically, employ their own tools against them. For them, it's maddening to not be able to shut down someone who is better at playing by their rules than they are. Despite their wolf pack tactics. And I suppose my ignoring their cries of Ollie, Ollie, oxen free.

Oh quit with the crying and self victimization.
 
"People will say 'oh it's unconstitutional'. Those are stupid people."

Yikes
He's just not articulate and the lack of discernment got old a long time ago. I can't believe how both sides have devolved into being totally reactionary, freaking out over wedge issues and voting for old people who take a dump every time they open their mouths.
 
Prison for burning the flag?

Exactly what kind of country do you want to live in?

I would think they would just get prosecuted for arson, public burning, etc. There are most likely all kind of laws in DC to cover this. They prosecuted grandma for walking around the capital.

To me whether its the flag or something else, is immaterial.
 
And in your analogy what if the nuggets caused you to vomit half the time...you'd still take the liver??
????
Still take the liver?
I didn't vote for the liver. I hate liver.
But if nuggets caused me to vomit half of the time, I would be pulling for nuggets to pull out of election to be replaced by something else.
 
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I would think they would just get prosecuted for arson, public burning, etc. There are most likely all kind of laws in DC to cover this. They prosecuted grandma for walking around the capital.

To me whether its the flag or something else, is immaterial.
So 1 year in prison for an “unlicensed open burn”?

Again, exactly what kind of country do you want to live in?
 
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