2024 Presidential Race

You are just looking for an answer you want to hear.
Then you expect somebody to justify it. Bait and switch.
The left or the right can't give you a good reason because you they don't need to do so.
You have to make up your own mind, not worry about their vote.
It is easier to list more reasons to not to vote for either of them than to vote for them.
Not impressed with either. Not impressed with their following.
For those that do vote, it will be a HOLD YOUR NOSE and Vote.
Ok, so take the names and the political affiliation away…..which would you support (Or it appears you would prefer who you would NOT vote for)

Were you better off 4 years ago or today?
Lower taxes or higher?
Lower fuel prices or higher?
a Secure southern border or wide open border?
tough on crime or tough on law abiding citizens by allowing criminals on the street?
fighting drug cartels or beholding to them allowing them to become filthy rich by flooding our streets with fentanyl?
support women’s sports by keeping men out women’s sports or allow men to infiltrate and ruin sports for women ?
Less regulations letting you live your life free or being told what/how you will live your life?
Making America the super power we are and keeping pease thru strength or go the direction we are going today?
vote for one who‘s policies have remained the same over the last 8-10 years vs. one that changes on policy daily?
Allow us to keep our guns or gun confiscation ?
Give me the opportunity to keep what I earn vs illegals taking I earn?

you can knit pick any one of these but overall, the decision, for me, it appears to be an easy decision.
 
Since you admit you aren't smart, let me fill you in.

Inflation is a global issue that is NOT exclusive to the USA, and it is actually MUCH worse in most other countries in the world. Do you honestly think if Trump gets elected (remember that stimulus money?) that inflation is just going to disappear? That's not how any of this works.
So it’s ok to blame the covid response (global issue) on Trump but not ok to blame the horrible economy on Biden? Sure thing.
 
If these Communist bas##### had their way ,they be voting. Black are beginning to see thru their lies and starting to move to the right. The libs are wanting to replace the blacks
Lifestyle landscape doesn’t not change not matter how many times they vote Dem.
 
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Ok, so take the names and the political affiliation away…..which would you support (Or it appears you would prefer who you would NOT vote for)

Were you better off 4 years ago or today?
Lower taxes or higher?
Lower fuel prices or higher?
a Secure southern border or wide open border?
tough on crime or tough on law abiding citizens by allowing criminals on the street?
fighting drug cartels or beholding to them allowing them to become filthy rich by flooding our streets with fentanyl?
support women’s sports by keeping men out women’s sports or allow men to infiltrate and ruin sports for women ?
Less regulations letting you live your life free or being told what/how you will live your life?
Making America the super power we are and keeping pease thru strength or go the direction we are going today?
vote for one who‘s policies have remained the same over the last 8-10 years vs. one that changes on policy daily?
Allow us to keep our guns or gun confiscation ?
Give me the opportunity to keep what I earn vs illegals taking I earn?

you can knit pick any one of these but overall, the decision, for me, it appears to be an easy decision.
Using a lot of catch phrases. No need to nit pick.
All these wants will resonate with one group or the other. If you look at this list and evaluate it, effectively, then you will find that in one form or fashion would want more of the same.
America is too divided to come to terms and it has come to the point that one side will have to suck it up.
Focus is in the wrong place--The Presidency. Yet people have a tendency to ignore the Legislative and Judicial Branches of govt. Focus on what is being groomed by both parties in Congress.
All three Branches of govt are out of whack and the down ticket is where the meat is at the moment. Congress can fix a lot of the above without Presidential Action.
 
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Using a lot of catch phrases. No need to nit pick.
All these wants will resonate with one group or the other. If you look at this list and evaluate it, effectively, then you will find that in one form or fashion would want more of the same.
America is too divided to come to terms and it has come to the point that one side will have to suck it up.
Focus is in the wrong place--The Presidency. Yet people have a tendency to ignore the Legislative and Judicial Branches of govt. Focus on what is being groomed by both parties in Congress.
All three Branches of govt are out of whack and the down ticket is where the meat is at the moment. Congress can fix a lot of the above without Presidential Action.
That list had more than one non-issue. The sports thing is a fringe grievance
 
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So it’s ok to blame the covid response (global issue) on Trump but not ok to blame the horrible economy on Biden? Sure thing.
What Trump should have done is tell any governor that wanted to shut down their state that they would be getting no federal money, and that the justice dept would be suing their state for disrupting interstate commerce. The wails and moans of "You just want people to die!" would have been deafening at first, but it would have been the correct response. Hind sight is always 20/20 I suppose. I was against any lock down what so ever.
 
That list had more than one non-issue. The sports thing is a fringe grievance
I just look at it as a personal wish list of an individual voter. Pie in the sky utopia and trying to justify a personal vote. Problem with these type lists is people don't think what is best for the country and it is personal wishlist vs the reality.

Example, do I want either one of these Candidates in Charge of the Armed Forces as Commander in Chief? Hell No! I own 6 guns nobody is going to take them away from me, ever. Nobody or branch of govt has effectively closed the border and one would think with all the resources we could shut it down.

This is just a period of time that all forms of governments experience. It is a cyclic challenge to our govt. It happens to be a Democracy but the cycles occur in every form of govt no matter what ideology.
 
I just look at it as a personal wish list of an individual voter. Pie in the sky utopia and trying to justify a personal vote. Problem with these type lists is people don't think what is best for the country and it is personal wishlist vs the reality.

Example, do I want either one of these Candidates in Charge of the Armed Forces as Commander in Chief? Hell No! I own 6 guns nobody is going to take them away from me, ever. Nobody or branch of govt has effectively closed the border and one would think with all the resources we could shut it down.

This is just a period of time that all forms of governments experience. It is a cyclic challenge to our govt. It happens to be a Democracy but the cycles occur in every form of govt no matter what ideology.
Correct. It can be done with the National Guard, but no one has the stones to do it.
 
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Strange way you keep flexing this. Voting against someone else is an appropriate method. They should have the balls to say so. For example, it's reasonable to say I'm not voting for a rapist to be my rep. That's not crazy. I'm not saying I believe trumps a rapist, but you can certainly be a ****** enough human where anyone else is the option people go with. What trump supporters need to reconcile is he's not electable anymore. He lost to a potato. Is about to lose to a moron. Anyone else would have won. Stop nominating cancer
That goes both ways. I'm strictly against communism so I'll be pulling the lever for Trump. I realize Trump has his flaws but from a policy standpoint I align with him more. While I don't like some of his rants, I'm not soft enough for it to bother me.
 
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You are just looking for an answer you want to hear.
Then you expect somebody to justify it. Bait and switch.
The left or the right can't give you a good reason because you they don't need to do so.
You have to make up your own mind, not worry about their vote.
It is easier to list more reasons to not to vote for either of them than to vote for them.
Not impressed with either. Not impressed with their following.
For those that do vote party ticket, it will be a HOLD YOUR NOSE and Vote.
I was looking for any answer about how Kamala Harris will make my life better. It wasn't a trap and I posted earlier that I wasn't doing to make fun of anyone. I wanted to hear from the Harris voters on why they were voting for her. @Luther was the only one that said he was voting for Kamala. The rest of the PF left leaning posters that responded said that were not voting at all. I don't post much in the PF and I wanted to ask. It's a fair question for this thread topic but for some reason, impossible for the left side to answer, without mentioning Donald Trump.



I thought @Buddy’s Bandit (post #32979) laid it out pretty clear. You take the names/party lines and your hatred for which ever side away and then look at his list, the choice should be easy to make. His first 4 questions sealed it for me.
 
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Using a lot of catch phrases. No need to nit pick.
All these wants will resonate with one group or the other. If you look at this list and evaluate it, effectively, then you will find that in one form or fashion would want more of the same.
America is too divided to come to terms and it has come to the point that one side will have to suck it up.
Focus is in the wrong place--The Presidency. Yet people have a tendency to ignore the Legislative and Judicial Branches of govt. Focus on what is being groomed by both parties in Congress.
All three Branches of govt are out of whack and the down ticket is where the meat is at the moment. Congress can fix a lot of the above without Presidential Action.
Interested in your binary choices since the list I picked are “nit picked”. Seriously, list the binary choicest hat interest You. Keep personalities out of it.
 
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