2024 Presidential Race

[Buddy’s Bandit]

The key fact about Trump that many won't admit that makes him extremely popular with MAGA is that he either did or attempted (and was stopped) to do everything he promises to MAGA. I would argue 75% of the stuff was held up because both Trump and MAGA don't understand balance of power very well but Trump actually pursues his agendas. Not many politicians do that.

Now sometimes, there are good, legit reasons to not pursue a campaign agenda (like Obama promises to close GITMO but not doing it probably because he discovered GITMO was essential), but very few politicians actually live up to their word.

Hate him or love him, no one can deny that Trump pursues the platform of MAGA.

One of the major reasons he was delaye in implementing his policies was fake legal allegations the left instituted on him. I fully expect it this time as well. The liberal elites do not want him to institute his policies because they work! They cant afford to be proven wrong.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

One of the major reasons he was delaye in implementing his policies was fake legal allegations the left instituted on him. I fully expect it this time as well. The liberal elites do not want him to institute his policies because they work! They cant afford to be proven wrong.

Specifically which policies were "delayed"?

 

[utvolpj]

Fact is inflation now is practically nil, yet Biden is running $2T annual deficits. Of course Harris wants to spend $10T on just CC, and it is neck and neck race. So no, the electorate doesnt care about debt.

Inflation is not NIL and prices are not coming down. If the voter is not paying attention then they're a moron. I would say that seems about right for anyone actively supporting either candidate

 

[OrangeTsar]

The hyperbole continues, I see.

I made no comment. Any interpretation you made of my post is solely your own

 

[volbound1700]

One of the major reasons he was delaye in implementing his policies was fake legal allegations the left instituted on him. I fully expect it this time as well. The liberal elites do not want him to institute his policies because they work! They cant afford to be proven wrong.

That, more or less, came later in his election.

The first major agenda that he went after was the wall. He actually pursued it. Mexico wouldn't pay for it (so that was a ridiculous claim) and Congress wouldn't approve it. He then utilized the National Guard to build some of it. Frankly, this was probably his most egregious policy just based off the fact of his claim of getting Mexico to pay for it and he failed to meet that objective.

He then tried to repeal Obamacare but once again lost in Congress in a close vote with Republicans voting against the repeal. That got a lot of attention at the time and that was when MAGA really started getting into Congressional races heavily whether good or bad.

He used Executive Orders to get some of his business ideas but Congress going to the Democrats also killed his attempts.

I do feel like he lived up to his promises with foreign policy (which is ironically one of the main areas where the Presidency is the main party in charge of per the Constitution)

There is a lot that I am probably missing here.

A lot of people point out his huge debt but that is slightly misleading (and they know it) as 60% of that debt was accrued in 2020 and related to the COVID-19 shutdown and checks. I do think Trump bought hook, line, and sinker into it and it was one of the items that cost him the 2020 Election (and probably should have).

 

[volbound1700]

Inflation is not NIL and prices are not coming down. If the voter is not paying attention then they're a moron. I would say that seems about right for anyone actively supporting either candidate

I don't think you are looking at the original comment here correctly. I think the communication is that voters just don't take into account debt when they vote in the election and I think that is correct.

I have rarely heard anyone cite that they are voting for a Candidate due to National Debt. They will cite to economy, mean tweets, desirability, social issues like abortion, etc. No one cites debt.

 

[CobbVol]

ActBlue is the major finance arm of the socialist/communist democratic party. WY has join as well and expect other states to follow to investigate this potential illegal activity of election laws.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I don't think you are looking at the original comment here correctly. I think the communication is that voters just don't take into account debt when they vote in the election and I think that is correct.

I have rarely heard anyone cite that they are voting for a Candidate due to National Debt. They will cite to economy, mean tweets, desirability, social issues like abortion, etc. No one cites debt.

Running the printing presses is what's causing inflation...

Not controlling govt spending is whats causing inflation...

It's debt, no manner the semantics....

 

[lawgator1]

Vance didn't denigrate Walz's service, he called him out for lying about it.

Oh come on. He was entirely dismissive of it, seeking to hoist up his own service, using the comparison to denigrate Walz' service relative to his own.

I agree that Vance's was more... substantial, risky, whatever .., that Walz'. But the nanny nanny boo boo game doesn't look good in this context.

 

[Orangeburst]

Inflation is not NIL and prices are not coming down. If the voter is not paying attention then they're a moron. I would say that seems about right for anyone actively supporting either candidate

Why isnt inflation still high then with all the deficits?

As mentioned before, I will take less rather than more spending, or 10-20M less illegals, no woke gov, no $10T plans for CC and treaties, not to mention possible wars, a radical SCOTUS, and on and on. But hey, maybe those dont matter to you.

 

[utvolpj]

I don't think you are looking at the original comment here correctly. I think the communication is that voters just don't take into account debt when they vote in the election and I think that is correct.

I have rarely heard anyone cite that they are voting for a Candidate due to National Debt. They will cite to economy, mean tweets, desirability, social issues like abortion, etc. No one cites debt.

Actually lots of people cite debt and out of control spending. Between Trump and Biden they almost doubled it in 8yrs but neither party seems to mind and rolled their admins again. How people are ok with policies that outright steal from them is beyond me

 

[CobbVol]

That, more or less, came later in his election.

The first major agenda that he went after was the wall. He actually pursued it. Mexico wouldn't pay for it (so that was a ridiculous claim) and Congress wouldn't approve it. He then utilized the National Guard to build some of it. Frankly, this was probably his most egregious policy just based off the fact of his claim of getting Mexico to pay for it and he failed to meet that objective.

He then tried to repeal Obamacare but once again lost in Congress in a close vote with Republicans voting against the repeal. That got a lot of attention at the time and that was when MAGA really started getting into Congressional races heavily whether good or bad.

He used Executive Orders to get some of his business ideas but Congress going to the Democrats also killed his attempts.

I do feel like he lived up to his promises with foreign policy (which is ironically one of the main areas where the Presidency is the main party in charge of per the Constitution)

There is a lot that I am probably missing here.

A lot of people point out his huge debt but that is slightly misleading (and they know it) as 60% of that debt was accrued in 2020 and related to the COVID-19 shutdown and checks. I do think Trump bought hook, line, and sinker into it and it was one of the items that cost him the 2020 Election (and probably should have).

The wall is a perfect example. Below are some examples that Trump faced in trying to secure the border against the socialist/communist party we currently have in power. All everyone remembers is Trump did not get it passed (chuckle, chuckle).

Schumer pulls back offer of $25 billion for Trump's wall as immigration fight continues

Republican Sen. John Cornyn called the move "a step backward."

www.pbs.org

The Latest: Dems block Pentagon funding over border wall

Democrats opposing President Donald Trump's border wall demands have again blocked passage of a massive, almost $700 billion Pentagon funding measure.

apnews.com

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/house-passes-bill-rejecting-trumps-border-wall-emergency-idUSKCN1QF0FX/

House Democrats Announced Their Plan To Block Trump’s National Emergency To Build A Wall

The bill could pass Congress, but it would still need to overcome a presidential veto.

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[hog88]

Oh come on. He was entirely dismissive of it, seeking to hoist up his own service, using the comparison to denigrate Walz' service relative to his own.

I agree that Vance's was more... substantial, risky, whatever .., that Walz'. But the nanny nanny boo boo game doesn't look good in this context.

Walz claimed he carried a weapon of war into war, that is a blatant lie on all accounts and that is what Vance called him out on.

 

[hog88]

Why isnt inflation still high then with all the deficits?

As mentioned before, I will take less rather than more spending, or 10-20M less illegals, no woke gov, no $10T plans for CC and treaties, not to mention possible wars, a radical SCOTUS, and on and on. But hey, maybe those dont matter to you.

Inflation is still high.

 

[Orangeburst]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/08/harris-walz-military-credentials-00173236

cant even get out of the gate without lies.

 

[508mikey]

Actually lots of people cite debt and out of control spending. Between Trump and Biden they almost doubled it in 8yrs but neither party seems to mind and rolled their admins again. How people are ok with policies that outright steal from them is beyond me

They arent ok with There is nothing they can do about it

 

[volbound1700]

Actually lots of people cite debt and out of control spending. Between Trump and Biden they almost doubled it in 8yrs but neither party seems to mind and rolled their admins again. How people are ok with policies that outright steal from them is beyond me

It is talked about but I have yet to meet anyone that truly makes an election decision based on it. Republic party has, historically, spent less across the board (take Tennessee's situation of being in a surplus vs. California or Illinois as an example), but Republicans haven't been perfect.

 

[utvolpj]

They arent ok with There is nothing they can do about it

You can stop voting for the ones doing it. That's a start

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Kamala Harris Has Not Given One Interview Or Press Conference To The Media in 18 Days Since Joining Presidential Race.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Harris Campaign Website Scrubs Walz’s Rank, Escalating Stolen Valor Scandal​

Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign escalated its stolen valor scandal Thursday by scrubbing its reference to vice-presidential nominee Gov. Tim Walz’s (D-MN) rank.

The campaign altered its official website’s biography of Walz, removing its reference to him as a “retired command sergeant major” to instead note he once served at the command sergeant major rank, Politico reported.

Harris Campaign Website Scrubs Walz's Rank, Escalating Stolen Valor Scandal

Kamala Harris's presidential campaign escalated its stolen valor scandal Thursday by scrubbing its reference to vice-presidential nominee Gov. Tim Walz's (D-MN) rank.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Tim Walz Praises Young Children as ‘Stars’ of the ‘Walz for Governor Pride Parade’​

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) — Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate — once praised young children as “stars” of the “Walz for Governor Pride Parade,” making the remark during his campaign for governor in 2017.

Tim Walz Praises Young Children as 'Stars' of the 'Walz for Governor Pride Parade'

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) praised young children as "the real stars" of the "Walz for Governor Pride Parade."

www.breitbart.com

 

[ButchPlz]

I wish fewer people would vote. That would be a message to both parties that we demand better options. Continuing to vote for this crap, even if it's just to vote against the other party, just reinforces bad candidates going forward. They've done a great propaganda job of making people believe that not voting, or voting 3rd party, isn't an option.

They don't care if they have a lot of people voting for them. And by the way laws are in this country, it pretty much is non viable for third parties to have success.

 

[508mikey]

You can stop voting for the ones doing it. That's a start

they wont - exhibit A - Chicago & Illinois

 

[508mikey]

Kamala Harris Has Not Given One Interview Or Press Conference To The Media in 18 Days Since Joining Presidential Race.

neither has Potato head

 

[Franklin Pierce]

neither has Potato head

Who is potato head?