2024 Presidential Race

[BernardKingGOAT]

Pretty much did the same with John McCain

Sarah Palin didn't do him any favors. Bad choice there. Condi might have accepted if McCain would have asked. He still might not have won, but that would have changed the narrative in a more positive and confident manner

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

The media successfully smeared Romney without crazy rhetoric.

He had a mediocre staff. They weren't aggressive enough. Cared too much about being classy rather than winning by other means.

 

[85SugarVol]

The media successfully smeared Romney without crazy rhetoric.

Mitt Romney was portrayed as the Sixth Son of Satan.

Now they love him

 

[C-south]

It is, technically speaking. Just don't ever bitch about #fakenews again.

You can't have it both ways.

Sure you can. You can recognize and call something “fake news” with trying to censor those spreading it.

 

[Septic]

So if someone ran for President with the exact same policies as Trump but did so with class and dignity (like Reagan perhaps), would you vote for him or her this November?
That is, is Trumpism all about the personality and not the policy?
Another honest question. No trolling meant.
I too greatly dislike Trump‘s personality. Which is why I have never voted for him in a primary. I always think we have better candidates to put forward.

I probably would vote for him if he didn't lie every time his mouth opened, brought decorum and reverence to the office and didn't feel the childish need to attack people with grade school nicknames.

As much as some people in here don't care about "mean tweets", character matters to lots of people. If trump and his handlers weren't so effing dumb, they'd recognize that, shut him up and win by a landslide.

I won't vote for KH because her policy's suck ass.

I'm OK with sitting this one out.

 

[hog88]

If I was a journalist/reporter and knew about illegal activity in the government, wouldn't I be covering it up by not reporting it?

Yes, that’s wrong and done daily.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Sure you can. You can recognize and call something “fake news” with trying to censor those spreading it.

Where are all the lawsuits since Trump proclaimed "fake news"? If it's as fake as the Trumpers say, it should be easy to get massive judgements without breaking a sweat. That's as cut and dry as it gets. Do you even know what Murdoch's mission was with the advent of Fox News?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Yes, that’s wrong and done daily.

See. It's easy

 

[hog88]

It's designed to be divisive and take advantage of people's worst instincts. It derives power from an angry, bitter, and ill-informed society - by design.

Trumpism intentionally and by design paints the other side as the "enemy that should be hated and must be defeated" instead of "fellow Americans with different opinions who we can work with and find compromise."

...........even within their own party.

It's rooted in ignorance, misinformation, and false equivalencies.

Sounds almost exactly like democratism

 

[hog88]

It is, technically speaking. Just don't ever bitch about #fakenews again.

You can't have it both ways.

I might have missed it but I don’t recall people bitching about “fakenews“ asking the administration to censor it.

 

[Septic]

Sure you can. You can recognize and call something “fake news” with trying to censor those spreading it.

“We’re losing a lot of people because of the Internet, and we have to do something. We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening. And we have to talk to them. Maybe in certain areas closing that Internet up in some way [audience member cheers]… Somebody will say, ‘oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.’ These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people. We have a LOT of foolish people.” - Donald Trump

 

[KB5252]

I probably would vote for him if he didn't lie every time his mouth opened, brought decorum and reverence to the office and didn't feel the childish need to attack people with grade school nicknames.

As much as some people in here don't care about "mean tweets", character matters to lots of people. If trump and his handlers weren't so effing dumb, they'd recognize that, shut him up and win by a landslide.

I won't vote for KH because her policy's suck ass.

I'm OK with sitting this one out.

That's the problem though, Trump won't listen to anyone.

 

[Vol8188]

It is, technically speaking. Just don't ever bitch about #fakenews again.

You can't have it both ways.

Sure you can. We should have fake news. People should call that news out for being fake.

 

[Septic]

Sure you can. We should have fake news. People should call that news out for being fake.

Russia agrees.

I don't advocate for government intervention but I do believe that private platforms, like social media outlets should be able to police the discourse on their platforms and refuse service to whomever they choose.

 

[Septic]

That's the problem though, Trump won't listen to anyone.

And that's why he is in a dead heat with someone who has no business sniffing the oval office.

 

[just bob]

It is, technically speaking. Just don't ever bitch about #fakenews again.

You can't have it both ways.

You can't sit back and do absolutely nothing, like not vote, and then blame everyone else for your problems. Everyone has skin in the game. Also, every politician lies the second they open their mouth. Quit crying in the corner. Actions are the only thing that matter.

 

[Septic]

You can't sit back and do absolutely nothing, like not vote, and then blame everyone else for your problems. Everyone has skin in the game. Also, every politician lies the second they open their mouth. Quit crying in the corner. Actions are the only thing that matter.

Challenge accepted.

 

[gcbvol]

There is no law against lying.
There is no law against misinformation.
There is no law against disinformation.
There is no law against malinfornation.
There is no law against hate speech.

This is not the United Kingdom.
This is the United States.

The Washington Post asking the State to step in and censor someone is very much on brand for them, though.

Truth. Freedom comes with a lot of good and a decent amount of bad. The problem with lies and misinformation sits with the population falling for it. If we're too lazy and/or too dumb to see past it, we deserve what we get.

 

[KB5252]

You can't sit back and do absolutely nothing, like not vote, and then blame everyone else for your problems. Everyone has skin in the game. Also, every politician lies the second they open their mouth. Quit crying in the corner. Actions are the only thing that matter.

But isn't he doing something? He's boycotting the vote because he feels there's no candidate deserving of said vote.

 

[RockyTop85]

Their "job" is to drive ad revenue by appealing to as many viewers as possible.

Blurring opinion with news is the fastest way to providing that end through confirmation bias.

Telling people what they want to hear or reinforcing their priors and stoking outrage to drive continued engagement is the business model of all cable news.

 

[dovervolz]

It's designed to be divisive and take advantage of people's worst instincts. It derives power from an angry, bitter, and ill-informed society - by design.

Trumpism intentionally and by design paints the other side as the "enemy that should be hated and must be defeated" instead of "fellow Americans with different opinions who we can work with and find compromise."

...........even within their own party.

It's rooted in ignorance, misinformation, and false equivalencies.

Thats like biden calling all Republicans domestic terrorist. You just described the democratic party perfectly. And whats bad is that your are too single minded to see it.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[OrangeTsar]

I probably would vote for him if he didn't lie every time his mouth opened, brought decorum and reverence to the office and didn't feel the childish need to attack people with grade school nicknames.

As much as some people in here don't care about "mean tweets", character matters to lots of people. If trump and his handlers weren't so effing dumb, they'd recognize that, shut him up and win by a landslide.

I won't vote for KH because her policy's suck ass.

I'm OK with sitting this one out.

I understand the sentiment. I Just don’t think I could forgive myself if I didn’t vote and Kamala won

 

[OrangeTsar]

Sarah Palin didn't do him any favors. Bad choice there. Condi might have accepted if McCain would have asked. He still might not have won, but that would have changed the narrative in a more positive and confident manner

The bottom line for me is that the media will never be friendly to ANY Republican when they are up for election.

 

[Majors]

I probably would vote for him if he didn't lie every time his mouth opened, brought decorum and reverence to the office and didn't feel the childish need to attack people with grade school nicknames.

As much as some people in here don't care about "mean tweets", character matters to lots of people. If trump and his handlers weren't so effing dumb, they'd recognize that, shut him up and win by a landslide.

I won't vote for KH because her policy's suck ass.

I'm OK with sitting this one out.

She’s also known to suck. If character matters a side chick wouldn’t be the nominee.