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#35,827
LouderVol said:
what civil unrest? we were told everything was mostly peaceful and there were no threats.
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That's such a weak response.
Of course there was civil unrest.
Of course there were riots.
Of course it was mostly peaceful.

None of those things are contradictory. The concrete, two dimensional thinking of a bunch of PF posters is tiresome.
 
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#35,829
luthervol said:
Did you not see me clearly say the paint ball stuff was stupid and the guy should be reprimanded, if not fired?
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www.kare11.com

Advocates want officers charged in Stallings case

A group of civil rights advocates want criminal charges for officers seen on body cam video searching for curfew violators to shoot with rubber bullets
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doesn't sound like any of them were fired or faced real punishment. the only reference was that one left the job more than a year later.
 
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#35,830
luthervol said:
That's such a weak response.
Of course there was civil unrest.
Of course there were riots.
Of course it was mostly peaceful.

None of those things are contradictory. The concrete, two dimensional thinking of a bunch of PF posters is tiresome.
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There didn't appear to be any riots on that street and there certainly weren't any on that porch so why did those people have to go inside?
 
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#35,831
luthervol said:
That's such a weak response.
Of course there was civil unrest.
Of course there were riots.
Of course it was mostly peaceful.

None of those things are contradictory. The concrete, two dimensional thinking of a bunch of PF posters is tiresome.
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If I went to the club over the weekend where thousands gathered but two people were shot, then you could claim that was mostly peaceful. The most peaceful notion is a left wing farce.

That gas station Nukese and Jansen robbed some folks had been mostly peaceful.
 
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luthervol said:
Exhibit 1,276 of the right reporting a story completely out of context and manipulating its horde of mindless followers.
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completely out of context?

it was a curfew.
during covid.
cops shot at civilians on their own property.

what was taken "COMPLETELY out of context"?

seriously it makes a difference to you that it was a civil unrest curfew and not a covid one?
 
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luthervol said:
I have absolutely no problem with an enforced curfew during times of civil unrest.
I lived in inner-city Atlanta in '92 and was in full support of the curfew implemented during the Rodney King riots. In fact, I would have been livid had the city not enforced a curfew.

The paint ball stuff seems overboard and stupid. Without knowing the full context, I would think the officer should have been severely reprimanded if not fired.
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My god.
 
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hog88 said:
You did not address them being told to go inside.
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I do not know the full context. It says a "group standing on a residential porch" and it says they refused to go inside when instructed to do so.
It may have been fully justified. It may have been an offense deserving of immediate termination. It was more than likely something in-between those two extremes.

But I'm not stupid enough to get all agitated because the right wing media is trying to propagandize me.
Unlike a bunch of mindless.............
 
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luthervol said:
I do not know the full context. It says a "group standing on a residential porch" and it says they refused to go inside when instructed to do so.
It may have been fully justified. It may have been an offense deserving of immediate termination. It was more than likely something in-between those two extremes.

But I'm not stupid enough to get all agitated because the right wing media is trying to propagandize me.
Unlike a bunch of mindless.............
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Yet you promote the civil unrest promoted by propaganda spewed by left wing media. I however don’t think you’ve just been “propagandized” you’re just a mindless…….
 
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luthervol said:
I do not know the full context. It says a "group standing on a residential porch" and it says they refused to go inside when instructed to do so.
It may have been fully justified. It may have been an offense deserving of immediate termination. It was more than likely something in-between those two extremes.

But I'm not stupid enough to get all agitated because the right wing media is trying to propagandize me.
Unlike a bunch of mindless.............
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In what world is it justified for the police to order anyone inside of their own house? That is the first thing that needs to be explained.
The second is why wasn't the officer(s) charged or even fired for shooting at them? IMO the residents of that house would have been fully justified in returning fire. Do you agree?
 
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luthervol said:
That's such a weak response.
Of course there was civil unrest.
Of course there were riots.
Of course it was mostly peaceful.

None of those things are contradictory. The concrete, two dimensional thinking of a bunch of PF posters is tiresome.
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there was enough "mostly peaceful" riots to require a curfew where civilians were shot at with paintballs on their own property?

you are the one with 2 dimensional thinking trying to link every single protest together into one single act. it took place over weeks, in cities all over the US.

The Titanic was mostly fine after hitting the iceberg. most of the ship wasn't damaged by the iceberg. was the Titanic hitting the iceberg "mostly peaceful"? or does that one isolated event qualify as violent enough event to register as a problem for the whole ship?
 
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luthervol said:
It absolutely changes things. Geez!!!!
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how?

there was no justification under Covid to force people inside.
and under the civil unrest, that totally didn't happen, there was no justification to force these people inside.

there are videos of the cops using grenade launchers, rubber bullets, and gas rounds on the crowds in that same curfew. you don't see anyone on the right complaining about those videos or cops. because they were (more) justified. these people at the own house, there is no justification for that.

whatever the reasoning behind the curfew doesn't make the actual act any more reasonable.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I agree that a private business has the right to decide but I don’t agree they should have a shield from the liability associated with such decisions. If a social media company is making decisions on what to show and not show then they should be held accountable much like a publisher would be for what content they allow to be seen. For example, if they label something as a lie, have it suppressed and that suppression leads to harm because the info was actually true then the party harmed should have the right to sue. Right now that’s not the case. And I do agree we certainly see a lot of hypocrisy from people in and supporting both major parties.
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If these companies were held liable I believed even then would have folded long ago from lawsuits..
 
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hog88 said:
In what world is it justified for the police to order anyone inside of their own house? That is the first thing that needs to be explained.
The second is why wasn't the officer(s) charged or even fired for shooting at them? IMO the residents of that house would have been fully justified in returning fire. Do you agree?
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I do not know the whole context. I've already said the officer may very well deserve to be fired.

I think the residents would have been total idiots to have returned fire.
 
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LouderVol said:
there was enough "mostly peaceful" riots to require a curfew where civilians were shot at with paintballs on their own property?

you are the one with 2 dimensional thinking trying to link every single protest together into one single act. it took place over weeks, in cities all over the US.

The Titanic was mostly fine after hitting the iceberg. most of the ship wasn't damaged by the iceberg. was the Titanic hitting the iceberg "mostly peaceful"? or does that one isolated event qualify as violent enough event to register as a problem for the whole ship?
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My mostly peaceful description is for the protests overall - nation wide. I have no idea what was going on there that led to the curfew.

Your second comment is the exact opposite of true, that's precisely what the knuckle draggers have continually done.

We've had the mostly peaceful debate multiple times now. The data is out there. There were thousands of protests and 97% of those were 100% peaceful.
 
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