2024 Presidential Race

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This is the same candidate who was embarrassed by Tulsi Gabbard on the big stage that forced her to drop out of the primary….

Now we’re supposed to believe she’s the most qualified person to be running this country according the democrats?

“The republicans! Yada yada yada”

Dems have went blown stupid.
 
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luthervol said:
Only made possible in a world where trumpism was the alternative.
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no its not. Its made possible by your party, and your party alone. any decent Dem would be running away with this election. Forget battleground states where Harris has a 50/45 edge, it would be 75/25 for any decent Dem.

The Dems COULD put out someone that would actually be an improvement on the situation. instead of trying to improve themselves or this country they are literally just keeping the status quo and lying to the public about the validity of their candidates. Biden was sharp as a tack, and Kamala Harris was a liability. Ooops, the emperor has no clothes, and suddenly Biden gets put out to pasture, and Kamala is the greatest thing since Social Security.

that is all 100% on the Democrats. they could have chosen ANYONE when they axed Biden. heck they could have nominated a Republican that the Rs should have.

Trump is a God awful candidate, the only thing the Dems need to do is nominate a decent candidate and Trump would be irrelevant. you focus too dang much on Trump. start doing some actual self reflection and maybe you will see that Trump is literally not Hitler, nor literally the source of all evil in this nation.
 
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McDad said:
If I may, I think what you fail to grasp is understanding that many people...roughly half the voters...feel as strongly about Trump as you do about Kamala. Protecting their kids or grandkids from what they imagine Trump will do is just as important to them as you protecting yours from what you imagine Kamala will do.
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Good response and thank you. To further discuss……how does having an open boarder allowing millions of un-documented people into the country and then paying for their healthcare, education and housing help our kids? They take jobs AND WE are left holding the financial burden. This is financially impossible.

Additionally, how does allowing the government to set pricing work? Ask Russia and Venezuela.

I really wish we could have a civil discussion like this rather than throwing arrows.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Name them. I've been around awhile. I can't think of anything that radical being enacted in my lifetime
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SIAP

The Covid restrictions. They selectively shut down industries thinking it would have no impact on the economy, and trying to sell that being outdoors was dangerous. plus making the American population liability free Guinea Pigs for big pharma. then you have the trillions that went out to pay people not to work and given to businesses.
ACA, you know the secret bill that not even the people voting for it, nor Obama signing it, knew what was in it.
The Patriot Act.

those are just from my short time on this world where I was paying attention.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Good response and thank you. To further discuss……how does having an open boarder allowing millions of un-documented people into the country and then paying for their healthcare, education and housing help our kids? They take jobs AND WE are left holding the financial burden. This is financially impossible.

Additionally, how does allowing the government to set pricing work? Ask Russia and Venezuela.

I really wish we could have a civil discussion like this rather than throwing arrows.
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Your questions are valid. And keep in mind, the questions others have about Trump are valid to them.

I am neither pro/con Trump or Harris. I don't find either of them trustworthy to make our country better. And I gave up voting for the lesser of two evils approach many elections ago.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
You specifically mentioned all the lies in your post.
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Walz has spent more time in China learning from them than all the other canadates combines. Harris and her left wing policies attack the Constitiution While Cobservations embrace it.

An example….explain the price setting policy she has endorsed. It’s exactly what happened in Russia and Venezuela. How did that work?
 
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McDad said:
Your questions are valid. And keep in mind, the questions others have about Trump are valid to them.

I am neither pro/con Trump or Harris. I don't find either of them trustworthy to make our country better. And I gave up voting for the lesser of two evils approach many elections ago.
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And for me, that is why I am backing conservative policies. They , in my opinion, will serve my family better now, but more importantly, in the future.

We have seen four years of conservative policy and 4 years of liberals policies, to me, it is obvious.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
What is your perception?

Trump has walked into the lions den at the Democrat run Media for the debates. Why won't she extend the same courtesy? It absolutely shows weakness
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My perception is her team decided the risk of a debate on Fox isn't worth the reward. And, they are correct if they're thinking the folks watching a debate on Fox are likely not undecided voters.

My personal decision if I were running for president would be debate anywhere, anytime, with any format.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
And for me, that is why I am backing conservative policies. They , in my opinion, will serve my family better now, but more importantly, in the future.

We have seen four years of conservative policy and 4 years of liberals policies, to me, it is obvious.
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Understood.

What would you think if I said I haven't seen conservative policy...true conservative policy....in several decades?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
The point is that the people who care about the size of government are the ones who should care about it but they run around showing their ass saying “lol” when people talk about it in appropriate terms.

If you don’t care about a president “demanding that [his VP] overturn the results of the election,” then you don’t care about limited government. There’s no way around it.
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I am not a Trumper. I have been a never Trumper from day 1. I didn't trust him day 1 in power. I have pointed out to people on the board here my issues with him, and had them talk it down as not being that bad that he broke the Constitution. I have a bet with a poster about Trump breaking the Constitution again with more anti-2A pushes.

you don't have to sell me on Trump never being president. I am there, have been there from day one. my take has purely been on his policies. I won't act like 1/6 changed anything for me with Trump. however, most of his critics, have been pushing BS reason on why Trump was an issue, and it wasn't until 1/6 that they had a real issue. Sorry I don't take your sudden outrage too seriously after 4 years of BS. like I said, boy who cried wolf.

its not that we don't care, its that we had been there for 4 years, and you Johnny Come Latelys want to act like you were the ones to discover something bad about Trump on 1/6, and want everyone else to catch up.

most of us also recognize that nothing that could have happened on 1/6 would have been an actual threat to overturn the government or keep Trump in power. so as I said before, our outlook on the event is different than yours. sure, if you were to change half a dozen things, and it would be a threat. but you could do that same what if every single day of the year for every single president.
 
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McDad said:
My perception is her team decided the risk of a debate on Fox isn't worth the reward. And, they are correct if they're thinking the folks watching a debate on Fox are likely not undecided voters.

My personal decision if I were running for president would be debate anywhere, anytime, with any format.
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Good politics I guess, but it exposes her weakness.
 
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LadyVolette said:
I can tolerate many things, but a condescending attitude is not one of those things.. peace out ✌️
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I was joking thought you were as well. Using words like "Misogyny" and "mansplain" warranted a response. Don't you think? Condescending? No. Words matter, unless you are a Presidential Candidate.
 
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Fellas, I think I'm at the point where I actually have a preference in this election. Can't remember the last time I had a preference. May have been Romney. May have been W.

But since Kamala may be worse than Trump, and absolute worst case scenario is Trump vs. Harris in 2028, I guess I'd prefer Trump winning now and getting it over with so the GOP can move on.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Fellas, I think I'm at the point where I actually have a preference in this election. Can't remember the last time I had a preference. May have been Romney. May have been W.

But since Kamala may be worse than Trump, and absolute worst case scenario is Trump vs. Harris in 2028, I guess I'd prefer Trump winning now and getting it over with so the GOP can move on.
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Interesting. In full disclosure I would consider voting Trump if I lived in a tossup state, still not 100% sure I would since I don't think he's going to do a damn thing about shrinking the fed govt but I'm 100% certain Harris would greatly expand it.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Fellas, I think I'm at the point where I actually have a preference in this election. Can't remember the last time I had a preference. May have been Romney. May have been W.

But since Kamala may be worse than Trump, and absolute worst case scenario is Trump vs. Harris in 2028, I guess I'd prefer Trump winning now and getting it over with so the GOP can move on.
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Don't do it , huff.

Write in McDad. Join the tens of millions (actually only 2 people) who have already decided to write in me as POTUS.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Fellas, I think I'm at the point where I actually have a preference in this election. Can't remember the last time I had a preference. May have been Romney. May have been W.

But since Kamala may be worse than Trump, and absolute worst case scenario is Trump vs. Harris in 2028, I guess I'd prefer Trump winning now and getting it over with so the GOP can move on.
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There is no GOP, there is the uniparty. There are no differences between Bush, Romney, Cheney, Obama, Biden, McCain, Clinton, Kamala, Pence, etc. ... if they control both sides of the coin than they are guaranteed a victory.

Nobody is better or worse than the next one.
 
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