2024 Presidential Race

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#38,103
LouderVol said:
ok, fine, the collective "you", who all voted for Biden in the primary. Sometime between June 8th and June 28th Biden mentally declined enough where the rest of your party went from voting FOR the guy, no Trump in those primaries, to throwing him out.
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I think the "she wasn't selected by the people" route is a dead end.

We almost saw a lunatic assassinate President Trump who was selected by the GOP voters. If he'd been incapacitated, would the GOP not be able to replace him? If he just decided after the attempt, I'm not going to risk my life, would the GOP be able to replace him?

If Trump decides: screw this, I'm going to play golf, run my business, and write another book, should the GOP be able to replace him?

It's just a dead end. Of course Biden is old, VERY VERY questionable in the office now, and shouldn't have ever even been elected..... no argument..... but of course a candidate can be replaced if they drop (or get forced by a bullet or their party) to leave the race.
 
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LouderVol said:
ok, fine, the collective "you", who all voted for Biden in the primary. Sometime between June 8th and June 28th Biden mentally declined enough where the rest of your party went from voting FOR the guy, no Trump in those primaries, to throwing him out.
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There was really no other choice, which is ALWAYS the case with an incumbent.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I think the "she wasn't selected by the people" route is a dead end.

We almost saw a lunatic assassinate President Trump who was selected by the GOP voters. If he'd been incapacitated, would the GOP not be able to replace him? If he just decided after the attempt, I'm not going to risk my life, would the GOP be able to replace him?

If Trump decides: screw this, I'm going to play golf, run my business, and write another book, should the GOP be able to replace him?

It's just a dead end. Of course Biden is old, VERY VERY questionable in the office now, and shouldn't have ever even been elected..... no argument..... but of course a candidate can be replaced if they drop (or get forced by a bullet or their party) to leave the race.
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You're combining the idea of removing a candidate and removing a potus. If he's no longer able to run then he's really in no shape to still hold office. Getting shot is immediate where as this was evident before the primary but only got removed when he became a liability to their power
 
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utvolpj said:
You're combining the idea of removing a candidate and removing a potus. If he's no longer able to run then he's really in no shape to still hold office. Getting shot is immediate where as this was evident before the primary but only got removed when he became a liability to their power
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Whether Biden should be Amendment 25 material is another matter.

In the middle of a campaign, for whatever reason, saying that "your selected by the people candidate dropped out and you can't pick anyone else" is just a dead end in America.

The people can't force someone, as Washington famously said, to run or serve.

If Trump decided he didn't want to run, should the GOP be allowed to move Vance up the ticket? Of course.

I just don't get where that kind of argument goes. Sure, it looks like crap for the Dems, but Biden looked like crap, their positions on healthcare, on weapons, on abortion, etc look like crap too.
 
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luthervol said:
There was really no other choice, which is ALWAYS the case with an incumbent.
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But that isn't the real story, they waited so that you had no choice.

On to a different subject, this 25% tax on unrealized gains, how does that actual work and how/who is going to be assessing these unrealized gains?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Whether Biden should be Amendment 25 material is another matter.

In the middle of a campaign, for whatever reason, saying that "your selected by the people candidate dropped out and you can't pick anyone else" is just a dead end in America.

The people can't force someone, as Washington famously said, to run or serve.

If Trump decided he didn't want to run, should the GOP be allowed to move Vance up the ticket? Of course.

I just don't get where that kind of argument goes. Sure, it looks like crap for the Dems, but Biden looked like crap, their positions on healthcare, on weapons, on abortion, etc look like crap too.
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This isn't about a candidate just not wanting to do it anymore. He was forced out because he was not mentally fit enough to run for election. That absolutely goes to being fit enough to run the country. Of a candidate is remove because they're mentally incapacitated then they should not be left in office.
 
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utvolpj said:
This isn't about a candidate just not wanting to do it anymore. He was forced out because he was not mentally fit enough to run for election. That absolutely goes to being fit enough to run the country. Of a candidate is remove because they're mentally incapacitated then they should not be left in office.
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Come on man. It's only 4 more months...... what could possibly go wrong?

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LSU-SIU said:
But that isn't the real story, they waited so that you had no choice.

On to a different subject, this 25% tax on unrealized gains, how does that actual work and how/who is going to be assessing these unrealized gains?
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The government, of course.
 
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Here's what I believe to be true.

If Biden were ahead in the polls he's still the nominee

Once the debate performance was so bad, the Dems had to accept that polling was not going to turn around, and suddenly Biden isn't fit. They knew he wasn't fit but were hoping Trump would be the one to shat all over himself in the debate. Not an unreasonable hope

Dems all wanted open convention. It's no secret that no one take Harris seriously. Hell she was polling as the least liked VP in history. But pissed off Biden, steps down because he doesn't want to be humiliated by being removed from office via the 25th, moves to force it to be Harris by naming her his replacement.

Dems know they can't hide Harris if she is POTUS. And they are clearly hiding her. So Biden must stay.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I think the "she wasn't selected by the people" route is a dead end.

We almost saw a lunatic assassinate President Trump who was selected by the GOP voters. If he'd been incapacitated, would the GOP not be able to replace him? If he just decided after the attempt, I'm not going to risk my life, would the GOP be able to replace him?

If Trump decides: screw this, I'm going to play golf, run my business, and write another book, should the GOP be able to replace him?

It's just a dead end. Of course Biden is old, VERY VERY questionable in the office now, and shouldn't have ever even been elected..... no argument..... but of course a candidate can be replaced if they drop (or get forced by a bullet or their party) to leave the race.
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So you believe that Biden's mental decline was sudden? I guess it was just coinkidink that it (Nancy's coup) occurred when the polls appeared to be in an uncontrolled dive.
 
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