2024 Presidential Race

[BowlBrother85]

I was watching cbs after the first debate. The anchor said “it was too close to call”.

That’s your trusted source? Did you watch Biden die on stage and think “hard to say who won this one!”

You would probably say that Fox News is a better source, right?

The same network that paid $787 million to settle a defamation law suit against them in April of 2023.

 

[Vol8188]

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

When Harris claims Trump wants a national abortion ban, do you think the media should call her out on that open lie?

 

[Majors]

I'm guessing the party with the most fascists, xenophobes, racists, MAGA extremists, white supremists, etc

I'm all for lessening the divide and have voted accordingly.

But you don’t mind it either. You actually encourage it while tolerating your own parties daily racism and hate to the opposing party.

Which would make you a racist hypocrite

 

[BowlBrother85]

When Harris claims Trump wants a national abortion ban, do you think the media should call her out on that open lie?

Trump has been all over the place on abortion. As recently as April, Trump did say that he supported a federal abortion ban after 15 weeks.

In 2016, Trump also said that there should be "some type of punishment" for women who have an abortion.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You repeat the most obvious lies. You have believed and repeated almost every conspiracy since 2016.

Only a person who is part of the democrat flock doesn't believe something nefarious went on with voting during 2020.

The same person posted these two statements 8 minutes apart.

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE : An inconsistency between attitudes or behaviors that the affected individual is oblivious to.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Kamala Harris’ Moment in the Sun - Newt Gingrich

Despite Harris’s good showing, two themes held the Democrats together for their four-day convention: hatred of Donald Trump, and a pork barrel desire to feed taxpayers money to key elements of their coalition.

gingrich360.com

"In 1988, Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis left his convention with a 17-point lead over Vice President George H. W. Bush. Three-and-a-half months later, Dukakis lost by 8 points. One-out-of-four Americans switched their vote as they learned more about how radical Dukakis was."

 

[Vol8188]

Trump has been all over the place on abortion. As recently as April, Trump did say that he supported a federal abortion ban after 15 weeks.

In 2016, Trump also said that there should be "some type of punishment" for women who have an abortion.

So he’s never supported a full ban like she’s claiming? But has mentioned policies that are more inline with Europe on abortion?

And since we are clarifying positions (something the Harris team tries to never do), she believe in 0 limits on abortion, right?

Abortion until birth

 

[rekinhavoc]

The DNC Has Just Been One Long Litany Of Stupid, Obvious Lies

The biggest lie of all is that Vice President Kamala Harris bears no responsibility for Joe Biden’s failed presidency.

thefederalist.com

Rubes

 

[BowlBrother85]

So he’s never supported a full ban like she’s claiming? But has mentioned policies that are more inline with Europe on abortion?

He has been in support of damn near everything at one time or another. When it comes to abortion, Trump is a leaf in the breeze of what is politically favorable.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Report: Kamala Harris Wants to Boost Taxes by $5 Trillion

Vice President Kamala Harris's economic plan would increase taxes by $5 trillion over ten years, according to Americans for Tax Reform (ATR).

www.breitbart.com

Tax the sh!t out of everybody.

 

[Vol8188]

He has been in support of damn near everything at one time or another. When it comes to abortion, Trump is a leaf in the breeze of what is politically favorable.

Then find it? The truth is, he has always been very moderate on abortion.

Harris on the other hand, has she ever supported any limit on abortion? Odd you cut that part off my response.

Once again, the goal is to make it until November without ever mentioning the actual insane policies of Harris

 

[rekinhavoc]

Kamala Harris, Who Helped Put Pro-life Filmmaker in Jail, Warns Trump Will 'Jail Journalists'

Kamala Harris warned the DNC that Trump would "jail journalists" -- after she prosecuted pro-life filmmaker David Daleiden in California.

www.breitbart.com

Too drunk to remember she had been there done that.


We don't have journalists . We have sycophants.

 

[rekinhavoc]

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

 

[Majors]

Bet she reads PF too. A few here probably came to the realization it’s them she is talking about.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Then find it? The truth is, he has always been very moderate on abortion.

Harris on the other hand, has she ever supported any limit on abortion? Odd you cut that part off my response.

Once again, the goal is to make it until November without ever mentioning the actual insane policies of Harris

At the 1:07 point of the video, Chris Matthews asks Donald Trump :

"Do you believe in punishment for abortion? Yes or no, as a principle?"

Donald Trump responds with :

"The answer is that .... there has to be some form of punishment."

^^^^ That doesn't sound moderate to me. ^^^^


.... and Trump has been all over the map with it :

A timeline of Trump's many, many positions on abortion

Since 1999, Trump has been on just about every side of the abortion issue. Here's a timeline of his many positions.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[NashVol11]

I agree.The right has slowly been transitioning to populism and as such, I see it as moving toward the center. The left has ceded their party to their most extreme elements and as such is moving further and further left of center

The constant culture war garbage and trying to bring back words like r****d and f****t that were considered outdated by 2010 is not “moving toward the center” IMO

 

[Vol8188]

At the 1:07 point of the video, Chris Matthews asks Donald Trump :

"Do you believe in punishment for abortion? Yes or no, as a principle?"

Donald Trump responds with :

"The answer is that .... there has to be some form of punishment."

^^^^ That doesn't sound moderate to me. ^^^^


.... and Trump has been all over the map with it :

A timeline of Trump's many, many positions on abortion

Since 1999, Trump has been on just about every side of the abortion issue. Here's a timeline of his many positions.

www.nbcnews.com

That was your big “it” to find?

Obviously there has to be a limit. Without a punishment of some sort, there is no limit. Saying there should be limits is a moderate position.

now, are you willing to admit that you candidate believes in unlimited abortion?

 

[BowlBrother85]

That was your big “it” to find?

Obviously there has to be a limit. Without a punishment of some sort, there is no limit.

now, are you willing to admit that you candidate believes in unlimited abortion?

LOL.

There doesn't have to be punishment, for something that is legal to do. Trump didn't qualify his statement at all. He simply said that if a woman has an abortion, there has to be some form of punishment for it .... and if you read the link to NBC News, he has called for federal abortion bans recently.

 

[Vol8188]

LOL.

There doesn't have to be punishment, for something that is legal to do. Trump didn't qualify his statement at all. He simply said that if a woman has an abortion, there has to be some form of punishment for it .... and if you read the link to NBC News, he has called for federal abortion bans recently.

lol you took that as “Trump wants to punish all abortion”?

You’re clearly reading something into this that isn’t there.

Now, find your candidates limit. Can you provide any information on where she believes the limit should be? If she doesn’t believe in one, I hate to break it to you, but she’s the insane radical here

 

[BowlBrother85]

lol you took that as “Trump wants to punish all abortion”?

You’re clearly reading something into this that isn’t there.

Now, find your candidates limit. Can you provide any information on where she believes the limit should be? If she doesn’t believe in one, I hate to break it to you, but she’s the insane radical here

He didn't make any qualifying comments. He didn't preface it with anything. Who knows what he meant? It was a strange thing to say without providing specifics.

 

[NashVol11]

I was watching cbs after the first debate. The anchor said “it was too close to call”.

That’s your trusted source? Did you watch Biden die on stage and think “hard to say who won this one!”

CNN’s entire coverage was about what a disaster it was for Biden and how someone else should be the nominee, so given your history I respectfully don’t believe you that CBS’ overall takeaway was that Biden was fine

 

[Vol8188]

He didn't make any qualifying comments. He didn't preface it with anything. Who knows what he meant? It was a strange thing to say without providing specifics.

So he’s never said he wants to ban all abortion, but because you personally believe that, that’s how you took it?

And still no comment on Harris? No interest in discussing your candidate and her views?

 

[Vol8188]

CNN’s entire coverage was about what a disaster it was for Biden and how someone else should be the nominee, so given your history I respectfully don’t believe you that CBS’ overall takeaway was that Biden was fine

Not the immediate post. The next day, maybe. But not in the post coverage.

Many of the main outlets were still covering for Biden after he died on stage

 

[NashVol11]

Not the immediate post. The next day, maybe. But not in the post coverage.

Many of the main outlets were still covering for Biden after he died on stage

I watched CNN eviscerate Biden live, I was pleasantly surprised they were as forward in calling for another nominee as they were. You’re not going to be able to rewrite it