2024 Presidential Race

[volinbham]

Whatever .....

Project 2025 Co-Author Caught On Undercover Video Saying Trump ‘Supportive’ of Plan Trump Now Disavows

While former President Donald Trump has repeatedly, publicly distanced himself from Project 2025 -- a 900-page guidebook for Trump's second term as President -- one of the document's co-authors was caught on a hidden camera stating that the ex-president "blessed" everything in it. Russell Vought...

www.mediaite.com

so you never will acknowledge that the Media Matters fake quote was indeed fake.

 

[BowlBrother85]

NYT is FOS. The drive by news hacks will be coming at us fast and furious leading up to November 5th. MSM is “all hands on deck”. Bet on it.

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

 

[volinbham]

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

I'm just asking you to examine the NYT article you keep posting. Who do you think made the assertion that RFKJr demanded a cabinet position? It's a simple question. Who told them and do you think they are 100% trustworthy?

 

[BowlBrother85]

so you never will acknowledge that the Media Matters fake quote was indeed fake.

With the story being that Trump was fully supportive of the Project 2025 agenda, until it became toxic with moderate voters, the story no longer needs anything but that undercover video with the co-author of Project 2025.

Whatever Media Matters said is irrelevant. The story is now that undercover video.

 

[85SugarVol]

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

You discounted Forbes assessment of RFK’s net worth… because it didn’t support your tribal belief. Lol.

 

[85SugarVol]

With the story being that Trump was fully supportive of the Project 2025 agenda, until it became toxic with moderate voters, the story no longer needs anything but that undercover video with the co-author of Project 2025.

Whatever Media Matters said is irrelevant. The story is now that undercover video.

James O’Keefe approves.

 

[volinbham]

With the story being that Trump was fully supportive of the Project 2025 agenda, until it became toxic with moderate voters, the story no longer needs anything but that undercover video with the co-author of Project 2025.

Whatever Media Matters said is irrelevant. The story is now that undercover video.

you presented the Media Matters info laundered through CBS as truth. It was BS. you'd be taken more seriously if you could acknowledge when stuff is BS but instead you call people names when challenged.

you are doing the same with the RFKJr thing. take an objective look rather than trying to defend what may be a flawed opinion.

 

[volinbham]

night everyone

 

[BowlBrother85]

That's not accurate at all. You implied his motivation was driven by money.

Yes, I did. I shouldn't have gone there, it wasn't my initial intention. Even though I have reason to believe that money could be a reason behind it, I should have just stuck to my main point, but I got caught up in a back and forth tangent that wasn't central to my argument. I made a mistake. Unlike most members of the Republican Party echo chamber on here, I can admit that I make them from time to time.

My point was to say that RFK Jr.'s endorsement is meaningless, because he offered it to both candidates, in exchange for a cabinet post. It really doesn't matter if he just wanted the job, or if he needed the job. The point is that he made the job a condition of his endorsement. His endorsement was one side of a quid-pro-quo deal. His endorsement was for sale. Therefore, it means nothing.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I would imagine you are correct that it likely came from Team Harris and of course they likely have a nice relationship with the NYT. As crazy as RFK Jr is on some things, I think he’s as pi$$3d off as the rest of us. Selling allegiance doesn’t seem to be his style.

His "style" is being pi$$ed that Harris didn't wan't anything to do with a former heroin addict, who once tried to board a plane bound for his rehab clinic .... while in possession of heroin.

You are assigning him a semblance of integrity that he has never earned.

 

[Carl Pickens]

So what? Trump didn't publicly denounce Epstein .... until after Epstein was exposed. Whenever Trump is asked why he appointed Alex Acosta as Secretary of Labor, Trump dodges the question.

He kicked him out of Mar A Lago. What else do you want?

 

[BowlBrother85]

He kicked him out of Mar A Lago. What else do you want?

Not to have hired the prosecutor who gave Esptein such a sweetheart plea deal without consulting with Epstein's victims first.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I'm not even dogging the NYTs. I'm simply asking where the assertion came from. Hard to imagine it wasn't someone from team Harris. The natural question would be if we should be skeptical of things campaign insiders are telling the media (the answer is yes).

On Luther's magical continuum of truthiness where +10 is absolute truth and -10 is pants on fire I'd put Teams Trump and Harris at -9 and Team RFKJr at - 3. Accordingly, I'm skeptical of the narrative that RFKJr is simply selling his allegiance to get a job because he needs money he wants it

Right. You should trust this guy .....

ROBERT KENNEDY JR. ADMITS HE IS GUILTY IN POSSESSING HEROIN (Published 1984)

www.nytimes.com

 

[Carl Pickens]

Right. You should trust this guy .....

ROBERT KENNEDY JR. ADMITS HE IS GUILTY IN POSSESSING HEROIN (Published 1984)

www.nytimes.com

Can you not understand what he’s asking? FFS answer the question

 

[BowlBrother85]

nm

 

[BreatheUT]

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

You repeat the most obvious lies. You have believed and repeated almost every conspiracy since 2016.

Funny that you left out your most trusted news sources above NBC and MSNBC News.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I'm just asking you to examine the NYT article you keep posting. Who do you think made the assertion that RFKJr demanded a cabinet position? It's a simple question. Who told them and do you think they are 100% trustworthy?

Can you not understand what he’s asking? FFS answer the question

... and this should also interest @volfanhill and @Vol737 ....

One source was a member of the RFK Jr. campaign, and one source was a DNC official.

RFK Jr. reached out to Harris campaign about administration role in exchange for endorsement

The approach from Kennedy's team occurred last week, and no meeting between the two candidates materialized, the Kennedy campaign official told CNN.

www.wbaltv.com

Below is a portion of the above article :

"Independent presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr.'s campaign reached out to Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign to arrange a meeting about a possible role in her administration if he drops out of the race and endorses her, a Kennedy official and a Democratic official told CNN.

The approach from Kennedy's team occurred last week, and no meeting between the two candidates materialized, the Kennedy campaign official told CNN.

The effort to meet comes weeks after Kennedy and former President Donald Trump met in person during the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, where the two discussed a possible role for Kennedy in a potential Trump administration in exchange for an endorsement.

Kennedy campaign staff also attempted to reach out to intermediaries for Ron Klain, former White House chief of staff for President Joe Biden, but those efforts were fruitless, the Kennedy campaign official said ...."

This blows away every defense that you have made.

1) It wasn't a member of the Harris campaign who acted as a source on this story, but a member of RFK Jr.'s campaign did.

2) RFK Jr. clearly was shopping his endorsement around, in exchange for a role in a future administration.

3) Based on this article, it is reasonable to conclude that Trump did, in fact, promise RFK Jr. a job in exchange for his endorsement.

 

[BowlBrother85]

You repeat the most obvious lies. You have believed and repeated almost every conspiracy since 2016.

Funny that you left out your most trusted news sources above NBC and MSNBC News.

LOL .... Says the guy who believes that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged against Donald Trump.

No, that is definitely one conspiracy theory I did not believe.

 

[BreatheUT]

LOL .... Says the guy who believes that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged against Donald Trump.

No, that is definitely one conspiracy theory I did not believe.

Only a person who is part of the democrat flock doesn't believe something nefarious went on with voting during 2020.

Then again you are fairly naive.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Only a person who is part of the democrat flock doesn't believe something nefarious went on with voting during 2020.

Then again you are fairly naive.

LOL.

Rarely has my point ever been so strongly confirmed about the Republican Party echo chamber on here :

1) If a belief involves something either favorable to a Republican Party agenda, or negative for Democrats?

It is automatically concluded by Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters to be factual, whether it has been proven or not .... and just like with @BreatheUT , the Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters will act as if there is something wrong with you, for not believing it. You will often be called "naive."

2) If a belief involves something that is favorable to a Democratic Party agenda, or negative for Republicans?

It is immediately dismissed as being a "conspiracy theory," and treated with scorn and ridicule.

@BreatheUT ,

You do not have a shred of self-awareness. You probably don't even comprehend how incredibly inconsistent and partisan your post that I replied to is. This is pure tribalism, with cognitive dissonance to an extreme.

 

[BreatheUT]

LOL.

Rarely has my point ever been so strongly confirmed about the Republican Party echo chamber on here :

1) If a belief involves something either favorable to a Republican Party agenda, or negative for Democrats? It is automatically concluded by Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters to be factual, whether it has been proven or not .... and just like with @BreatheUT , the Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters will act as if there is something wrong with you, for not believing it. You will often be called "naive."

2) If a belief involves something that is favorable to a Democratic Party agenda, or negative for Republicans? It is immediately labeled a "conspiracy theory," and treated with ridicule.

@BreatheUT ,

You do not have shred of self-awareness. You probably don't even comprehend how incredibly inconsistent and partisan your post that I replied to is. This is pure tribalism, with cognitive dissonance to an extreme.

Dude RFK Jr just told you everything we have been saying for years yet you're too brainwashed to admit it. It probably has contributed to certain failings for you.

I vote with the Republicans because they are generally less sinister and damaging to society but I'm still a registered Democrat.

I altered the below in case it was my specific link and one of you leftists wanted to donate.

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Thursday, August 22, 2024

Before Kamala Harris hits the DNC stage tonight, can you confirm you're voting for Kamala D. Harris for President?

Reply now: forwardblue.us/l/xxxxxx

End2End

 

[BowlBrother85]

Dude JFK Jr just told you everything we have been saying for years yet you're too brainwashed to admit it. It probably has contributed to certain failings for you.

I vote with the Republicans because they are generally less sinister and damaging to society but I'm still a registered Democrat.

I altered the below in case it was my specific link and one of you leftists wanted to donate.

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Thursday, August 22, 2024

Before Kamala Harris hits the DNC stage tonight, can you confirm you're voting for Kamala D. Harris for President?

Reply now: forwardblue.us/l/xxxxxx

End2End

JFK Jr. died in a plane crash in July of 1999, off the coast of Martha's Vineyard.

You are tribal, with no sense of self-awareness about you. You are inconsistent down party lines with double standards galore. You are also a hypocrite ....

.... and RFK Jr. is only blowing Trump's horn, because Kamala wouldn't wouldn't offer him a job.

Read the article in post #38,842 of this thread, up above.

 

[BowlBrother85]

My prediction :

@volinbham will be too stubborn and have too much pride to admit that I was right.

The article in post #38,842 of this thread clearly shows that RFK Jr. was peddling his endorsement in terms of a quid-pro-quo. RFK Jr. was going to endorse whichever candidate agreed to offer him a role in their administration. If RFK Jr. had been in Trump's camp all along, then he would have endorsed Trump when they met last month during the Republican National Convention. RFK Jr. waited to see if he could get Kamala Harris to agree to his quid-pro-quo.

However, @volinbham will just double down on his narrative that the Harris campaign was responsible for that story, which appears on CNN and The New York Times .... and that RFK Jr. wasn't just trying to leverage his endorsement to land a cabinet post / a large role in a potential administration.

 

[Zues1]

Maybe Trump can sell Bobby a couple of ties so he can finally lose that 80s disco tie.

 

[Vol8188]

The echo chamber will only trust that which supports their tribal belief system.

In other words, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, The Federalist, Newsmax, The Washington Times, The New York Post and Fox News pass muster, while The New York Times, The Washington Post, ABC News, CBS News, Newsweek, Time, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Economist and USA Today do not.

I was watching cbs after the first debate. The anchor said “it was too close to call”.

That’s your trusted source? Did you watch Biden die on stage and think “hard to say who won this one!”