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[W.TN.Orange Blood]

We must view decimated a tad differently.

Bottom line....I just paid $2.79/gallon for gas.

The whole gas price BS isn't going to carry the weight trumpers think.

Let's try & get the price of gas back down to at least $1.99. That's better than $2.79.
Then we might be able to pay for those eggs at $4.09 a dozen & other things in general.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[OrangeTsar]

We must view decimated a tad differently.

Bottom line....I just paid $2.79/gallon for gas.

The whole gas price BS isn't going to carry the weight trumpers think.

I didn’t realize that the max capacity was only 1 Billion barrels. So I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle and is not a bad of a situation as I feared.
So then the question does indeed become how one defines the term „decimated“.
If I have a cookie jar with 100 cookies and I go to work and come back and my son has eaten all but 35 cookies; has my son decimated the cookie jar? Different people will answer that differently. But either way; I am not going to be super happy with the kid

 

[LSU-SIU]

Funny stuff. Frame him, conspire against him, sue him, try and kill him...let a bunch of Haitians in. Blame him for the results.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

We are programmed now to ignore & to not believe anything the MSM has to report on as true/facts. They lie each day as soon as the lights come on in their studio to favor the loony liberals so they don't get all mad & burn down America w/true facts being presented.

 

[luthervol]

I didn’t realize that the max capacity was only 1 Billion barrels. So I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle and is not a bad of a situation as I feared.
So then the question does indeed become how one defines the term „decimated“.
If I have a cookie jar with 100 cookies and I go to work and come back and my son has eaten all but 35 cookies; has my son decimated the cookie jar? Different people will answer that differently. But either way; I am not going to be super happy with the kid

True. But it kind of depends on what he did with the cookies and why.

 

[OrangeTsar]

We are programmed now to ignore & not believe anything the MSM has to report on as true/facts. They lie each day as soon as the lights come on in their studio.

The longer this goes on, I am beginning to feel that the true problem in America today isn’t the democrats; it’s the media. They seem to be the ones who want to really decide how the country is ran. It just so happens to match closer to what the democrats are pitching right now

 

[OrangeTsar]

True. But it kind of depends on what he did with the cookies and why.

He gave them to his friends in an effort to secure their votes for class President?

 

[creekdipper]

It doesn't take media to tell you this. Just listen to what Trump says and watch him, then listen to interviews of his MAGA supporters, and it's clear how he packages and portrays himself to them and builds on division.

It's right there in front of you.

So Harris saying that Pro-Life people are "clearly...out of their minds" and saying that MAGA supporters are "threats to democracy" ISN'T division?

 

[BowlBrother85]

So, if someone questions the results of something than they should be killed? I question them, should I be killed?

Trump did far more more than question the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election. Trump instilled his followers with the belief that he could still retain the presidency on January 6, 2021, when it wasn't still possible. Trump also led his followers to believe that they could help him accomplish this by disrupting the certification of the electoral college vote taking place in the Capitol. Trump also told lie after lie regarding the election itself. At times, his lies placed people such as Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Shaye Moss in genuine danger.

 

[rekinhavoc]

This is misleading, many grad schools don’t have need-based financial aid so the people taking out large loans aren’t just automatically “upper-income” just because they’re in law school/med school

Penn Wharton Sounds the Alarm on Biden’s Student Loan Bailout Scheme | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

"PWBM’s report reveals this plan is projected to cost taxpayers $84 billion and would disproportionately affect high-income earners. Roughly “750,000 households making over $312,000 in average household income” would be eligible for longer-term student debt cancellation. "


Sure sounds like a giveaway to rich folks.

 

[lawgator1]

So Harris saying that Pro-Life people are "clearly...out of their minds" and saying that MAGA supporters are "threats to democracy" ISN'T division?

Interesting question in light of Sunday's events and Trump/Vance claims since then because I think this is a question of how much and what type of rhetoric is justified or accurate.

I don't think anyone on this board is okay with a candidate or his/her campaign advocating actual violence towards the other. But neither Harris nor her campaign have said people should assassinate Trump; conversely, neither Trump nor his campaign has said people should assassinate her.

The difficulty is extrapolation of "what's ok" by the accusatory rhetoric. For example, from the perspective of the anti-Trump crowd, given the events of 1/6, it is perfectly accurate to call him a threat to democracy. Even some Republicans use that language. Does that cause a crackpot to try to assassinate him? Can you "blame" such comments, even if seemingly objectively accurate, for the assassination attempt? I can see it argue both ways.

Trump says that Harris is an extreme communist and that the country will end if she is elected. His supporters would say that's okay given their interpretation of her economic policies (we can argue over whether those perceptions are accurate; point is, the Trump allies think is it). Trump's not expressly calling for violence against her, but if some loon acts based on Trump's comments, is it his fault? Again, I can see it being argued both ways.

 

[hndog609]

The reserve has over 360 million barrels. Hardly decimated.

When Biden took over it was at 638 million. Being 44% down is pretty substantial.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Interesting question in light of Sunday's events and Trump/Vance claims since then because I think this is a question of how much and what type of rhetoric is justified or accurate.

I don't think anyone on this board is okay with a candidate or his/her campaign advocating actual violence towards the other. But neither Harris nor her campaign have said people should assassinate Trump; conversely, neither Trump nor his campaign has said people should assassinate her.

The difficulty is extrapolation of "what's ok" by the accusatory rhetoric. For example, from the perspective of the anti-Trump crowd, given the events of 1/6, it is perfectly accurate to call him a threat to democracy. Even some Republicans use that language. Does that cause a crackpot to try to assassinate him? Can you "blame" such comments, even if seemingly objectively accurate, for the assassination attempt? I can see it argue both ways.

Trump says that Harris is an extreme communist and that the country will end if she is elected. His supporters would say that's okay given their interpretation of her economic policies (we can argue over whether those perceptions are accurate; point is, the Trump allies think is it). Trump's not expressly calling for violence against her, but if some loon acts based on Trump's comments, is it his fault? Again, I can see it being argued both ways.

You mean like someone that comes on a forum and lies about who he was voting for, starts a whole thread up to convey fake empathy to waste people's time? Like a loon like that?

 

[LSU-SIU]

When Biden took over it was at 638 million. Being 44% down is pretty substantial.

Weekly U.S. Ending Stocks of Crude Oil in SPR (Thousand Barrels)

He drained it to get re-elected and they threw him out. Luther doesn't care about any of that.

 

[hog88]

Interesting question in light of Sunday's events and Trump/Vance claims since then because I think this is a question of how much and what type of rhetoric is justified or accurate.

I don't think anyone on this board is okay with a candidate or his/her campaign advocating actual violence towards the other. But neither Harris nor her campaign have said people should assassinate Trump; conversely, neither Trump nor his campaign has said people should assassinate her.

The difficulty is extrapolation of "what's ok" by the accusatory rhetoric. For example, from the perspective of the anti-Trump crowd, given the events of 1/6, it is perfectly accurate to call him a threat to democracy. Even some Republicans use that language. Does that cause a crackpot to try to assassinate him? Can you "blame" such comments, even if seemingly objectively accurate, for the assassination attempt? I can see it argue both ways.

Trump says that Harris is an extreme communist and that the country will end if she is elected. His supporters would say that's okay given their interpretation of her economic policies (we can argue over whether those perceptions are accurate; point is, the Trump allies think is it). Trump's not expressly calling for violence against her, but if some loon acts based on Trump's comments, is it his fault? Again, I can see it being argued both ways.

It’s always going to “yeah but 1/6” with you guys. Y’all are worse than a woman in using ancient history to defend your insanity.

 

[hog88]

When Biden took over it was at 638 million. Being 44% down is pretty substantial.

The reality is we don’t need the SPR or its expense. Our strategic reserves are in the ground and easily accessible, the problem is we lack the refining capacity.

 

[OrangeTsar]

So Harris saying that Pro-Life people are "clearly...out of their minds" and saying that MAGA supporters are "threats to democracy" ISN'T division?

The supporters of the party that makes everything a functioning „identity politics“ has absolutely no right to talk about „creating division“

 

[BowlBrother85]

Lol you post leftist articles. Great sources!!!!!

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Among the sources I used was Time .... Do you have anything to say about them? LOL.

 

[hndog609]

The reality is we don’t need the SPR or its expense. Our strategic reserves are in the ground and easily accessible, the problem is we lack the refining capacity.

There's a lot of truth to this but in theory the idea is the reserve is a "ready to go" supply. The bottleneck, as you say, is getting it refined.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I was skeptical until seeing that all the sources you cited are neutral, non- partisan, neutral purveyers of unvarnished truth.

Once again, are you saying that Time is a biased source?

 

[LSU-SIU]

The reality is we don’t need the SPR or its expense. Our strategic reserves are in the ground and easily accessible, the problem is we lack the refining capacity.

We really don't, that's only like 50 days worth if completely full.

 

[hog88]

There's a lot of truth to this but in theory the idea is the reserve is a "ready to go" supply. The bottleneck, as you say, is getting it refined.

Yep, our refining capacity is about maxed.

 

[lawgator1]

It’s always going to “yeah but 1/6” with you guys. Y’all are worse than a woman in using ancient history to defend your insanity.

I think its a mistake to be so dismissive of it, but you do you.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It’s always going to “yeah but 1/6” with you guys. Y’all are worse than a woman in using ancient history to defend your insanity.

1/6 was just a mostly peaceful protest