2024 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
You are being ridiculous now.

Do you honestly think that Donald Trump would be in North Carolina today, on the last Saturday before the election, if his campaign didn't have internal polling data showing a tight race, in what is a much needed state? Would Kamala Harris be going to North Carolina to speak tonight, if her campaign didn't show the same thing?

You are the one spinning here ..... You are placing a higher degree of importance on a relatively small sum of ad money (less than $3 million in a campaign that has raised over $1 billion), than you are on where both candidates are campaigning just 3 days before the election. If Kamala Harris was conceding North Carolina, she wouldn't be going there tonight.

I think you probably know I'm right about this, and more than anything else, you are too stubborn and have too much pride to admit that you are wrong.

Ask yourself another question :

Why haven't any of your right-wing brethren backed you on this? They love to argue with me on here .... and yet, they are remaining quiet on this topic ....
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Again, long winded spin to say you’re wrong. You don’t pull money when you’re up or close. I guess I could ask you the same question of why your left leaning sisters haven’t chimed in.
 
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Majors said:
Again, long winded spin to say you’re wrong. You don’t pull money when you’re up or close. I guess I could ask you the same question of why your left leaning sisters haven’t chimed in.
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There aren't many left-wingers on here ... and evillawyer just does her own thing.

You can not explain why Donald Trump campaigned in North Carolina today .... unless his campaign's internal polling data is showing a tight race.

We are 3 days away from the election, when every hour counts.

You can not explain why Kamala Harris will be holding a rally in Greensboro later tonight, if she has already conceded the state of North Carolina to Trump.

I can easily dismiss a $3 million ad redistribution, from a campaign that has raised $1 billion, as being something significant.

You are childishly stubborn, and maybe even a little thick. A more mature person than yourself, would be capable of admitting when they were wrong. You would rather just make a fool of yourself. LOL.
 
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DaddyChad said:
The consensus usually leans left though. Has in 2016 and 2020.
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That was true until the 2022 mid-term elections. In the aftermath of Trump's loss, we have seen two developments with polling data:

1) Some pollsters have followed Trafalgar Group's lead and they are building in Republican support to account for a presumed under-sampling of Republican voters ... or for poll respondents who don't want to admit to the pollster that they are voting for Trump.

2) .... and we have seen a plethora of biased pollsters, who are not being transparent with how they collect data. Both sides are guilty of this, but the Republican polling firms Rasmussen Reports and Trafalgar Group are being more aggressive with it, than the liberal firms are at the moment. That's not to say that there aren't biased liberal pollsters as well .... There definitely are.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There aren't many left-wingers on here ... and evillawyer just does her own thing.

You can not explain why Donald Trump campaigned in North Carolina today .... unless his campaign's internal polling data is showing a tight race.

We are 3 days away from the election, when every hour counts.

You can not explain why Kamala Harris will be holding a rally in Greensboro later tonight, if she has already conceded the state of North Carolina to Trump.

I can easily dismiss a $3 million ad redistribution, from a campaign that has raised $1 billion, as being something significant.

You are childishly stubborn, and maybe even a little thick. A more mature person than yourself, would be capable of admitting when they were wrong. You would rather just make a fool of yourself. LOL.
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So again, long winded answer on pulling money out but I’m wrong. Easy defeat when you start name calling, that’s when you know the weakness has taken over. Like taking candy from a baby (figure of speech).

Trump lost the state and now is well ahead in the state. He’s running out the clock and not doing a Hillary Blue wall mistake. Pretty simple.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That was true until the 2022 mid-term elections. In the aftermath of Trump's loss, we have seen two developments with polling data:

1) Some pollsters have followed Trafalgar Group's lead and they are building in Republican support to account for a presumed under-sampling of Republican voters ... or for poll respondents who don't want to admit to the pollster that they are voting for Trump.

2) .... and we have seen a plethora of biased pollsters, who are not being transparent with how they collect data. Both sides are guilty of this, but the Republican polling firms Rasmussen Reports and Trafalgar Group are being more aggressive with it, than the liberal firms are at the moment. That's not to say that there aren't biased liberal pollsters as well .... There definitely are.
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😂 horse crap.
 
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Majors said:
So again, long winded answer on pulling money out but I’m wrong. Easy defeat when you start name calling, that’s when you know the weakness has taken over. Like taking candy from a baby (figure of speech).
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That money was just $3 million from a campaign which has raised $1 billion. It represented a very small redistribution of money. Do you honestly believe that is more important than the fact that BOTH candidates were campaigning in the state of North Carolina today .... just 3 days before the election, on the last Saturday prior to the election?

You can't possibly think that you are right about this .... and yes, you are either stubborn, with way too much pride to admit when you are wrong, or you are just plain thick-headed.
 
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Ashevolle said:
The only thing that can realistically fix it. Hike interest rates.

I wish Trump had the intelligence to have done it when it should have been done, but he wanted to keep the party going and drink more to fix the hangover that was setting in.


COVID was the perfect storm to exacerbate an already bad situation which halted the supply chain. Congress and Trump threw gasoline on the fire with the the CARES Act.

There is no magic wand. You gotta pay the price. Raise interest rates and suffer until inflation is brought under control.

You can blame the hangover on Biden who was in power during the headache, but I prefer to blame the ones doing all the boozing.
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Since when did the POTUS have the power to hike interest rates?
 
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DaddyChad said:
😂 horse crap.
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You don't think that Trafalgar Group does that? Because by Robert Cahaly's own admission that is exactly what they do. You don't think that Republican pollsters were forcecasting a "red wave" before the 2022 mid-terms?

Please tell me that's what you are doing .... because I can nuke the hell out of that in about 5 minutes.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That money was just $3 million from a campaign which has raised $1 billion. It represented a very small redistribution of money. Do you honestly believe that is more important than the fact that BOTH candidates were campaigning in the state of North Carolina today .... just 3 days before the election, on the last Saturday prior to the election?

You can't possibly think that you are right about this .... and yes, you are either stubborn, with way too much pride to admit when you are wrong, or you are just plain thick-headed.
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Just 3M. Stubborn is spinning being down in that state and calling it close. Again, you don’t pull money/ads when it’s close or you’re winning. She’s losing.

I’ll give you final word, you need it.
 
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Majors said:
Just 3M. Stubborn is spinning being down in that state and calling it close. Again, you don’t pull money/ads when it’s close or you’re winning. She’s losing.

I’ll give you final word, you need it.
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You are acting like they pulled all of their ad money out of North Carolina .... they didn't. The Harris campaign redistributed a very small portion of it.

Answer these 3 questions :

1) If the Trump campaign didn't think the race in North Carolina was close, would he have been campaigning there today?

AND

2) If Kamala Harris had conceded the state of North Carolina to Trump 2 weeks ago, would she be going there tonight?

AND FINALLY ....

3) Do you honestly believe that such a small ad redistribution from 2 weeks ago, is more important than where BOTH candidates are campaigning 3 days before the election, which is also the last Saturday before the election?

You are either stubborn, with too much pride .... or just plain thick. I have to think it's because you just can't admit when you are wrong. Nobody is this stupid. This can't be a sincere argument.

I love the "you need it." None of the right-wingers on here will ever chime in when I'm right .... but if we could take a private survey, I'm willing to bet that they would admit so, on this particular argument. Your argument in the face of reality is absurd.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
LMAO 😂

www.dailywire.com

White House Cancels Remaining Biden Campaign Calls After ‘Garbage’ Insult

The White House reportedly canceled the remaining campaign calls that President Joe Biden had listed on his publicly available calendar after he insulted tens of millions of people this week who voted for former President Donald Trump, calling them “garbage.” The campaign calls were not...
www.dailywire.com www.dailywire.com
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Never underestimate Joe and his ability to literally F things up.

- B. Obama.
 
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This is awesome. We get left leaners here posting a talking head tweet posting up some data and stating how it’s a good indicator for heels up. Then we get a right leaning poster putting up another talking head tweet highlighting basically the exact same data and implying how it’s a good indicator for the orange one. Basically everyone is od’ing on copium 😂
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I really don't know what to expect. Nothing will surprise me. I do not envision either candidate sweeping the battleground states, however.

I don't think the polls have been much help this time. I don't think anyone knows who is going to win right now. Partisanship has infiltrated the election news cycle to such an extent (from both sides) it's hard to know what to trust and what to dismiss.

I will say that I think Harris has a very good shot at winning NC.
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I have no idea if they're right but the bond traders are anticipating a Trump win
 
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