2024 Presidential Race

Anyone who thought that guy would go over well with men, has likely never met a man. I’ve never seen a more dislikable candidate. I can’t find a single logical reason for picking him
they said that obummer's wingman holder vetted this clown.... wonder what the q and a were
 
Anderson was a moderate Republican who went independent, I think. Right? Just a simple memory check here
All I remember is that he was from Illinois, and I liked him. I went into the booth with my momma that morning and begged her to vote for him.

She pulled the lever for Carter. I cried and cried.
I was 8. 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
I agree with a few nitpicky caveats that aren’t worth going into.

I think it was poorly written and left open the possibility of bad judgment, which should be anticipated when writing things that have to be enforced by police.

Just skipping to the end of the book: My initial take on Walz is that he’s a pretty average guy who didn’t set out to get into politics but has made it a very long ways on charisma and affability. He’s not somebody who has all the answers or who can look at a new and novel situation and intuit the right path. He has done some things that likely helped people, but doesn’t seem to contemplate laws will ultimately be enforced by violence. He seems well suited as a VP candidate or legislator. He’s not somebody I would vote for for governor or president.

Do you stand behind this take? Or do you now see him like I do, as one of the worst VP candidates in modern history?
 
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I miss the days, late nineties into early 2000s, when the early morning show on MSNBC was facking Imus! That network moved way left after 9/11

Yes indeed. It’s just a left wing propaganda network now. Sad and bad move. People are constantly looking for real honest news these days and they ain’t it.
 
All I remember is that he was from Illinois, and I liked him. I went into the booth with my momma that morning and begged her to vote for him.

She pulled the lever for Carter. I cried and cried.
I was 8. 🤷‍♂️
Carter made some difficult decisions that turned out to be adverse for this country. Some of them would have been easily forgiven if the Iran hostage rescue mission would have been successful. It would have guaranteed another term, IMO.

He actually has turned out to be the baddest ass of all our modern Presidents
 
It was set up as an independent district to prevent the federal government from having too much influence over one state and visa versa.
Give the beltway to DC then. The federal government employees and other grifters run VA.
 
Carter made some difficult decisions that turned out to be adverse for this country. Some of them would have been easily forgiven if the Iran hostage rescue mission would have been successful. It would have guaranteed another term, IMO.

He actually has turned out to be the baddest ass of all our modern Presidents
Can you imagine what a badass he’d be if he got shot in the ear? 😉
 
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This is where it’s Biden’s fault for running again, IMO.

Once they kicked him to the curb, the party had to quickly rally behind one person and picking a senator or governor may have opened the door to other senators and governors asking “why not me?” A contested convention would have been a mess.

@Orangeslice13 had this conversation when it happened. He pointed out that she was an awful candidate, and I agreed, but I thought she was the best choice they could make under the circumstances. Circumstances created by Biden leveraging his incumbency to squash the primary field before it got started.

Ironically, I’m not sure he would have done much worse if they had just left him on the ticket. That might be one the worst performances by a Democrat since Mondale.
Those "circumstances created by Biden" could have easily been overcome if the media had simply done their job and reported the obvious. Biden would not have had a choice but to step back earlier, which would have allowed the Dems to have a full primary in selecting a candidate.
 
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Yes indeed. It’s just a left wing propaganda network now. Sad and bad move. People are constantly looking for real honest news these days and they ain’t it.
True, but unfortunately the Murdoch network offers nothing better. I generally don't watch any "news" networks. Always liked reading WSJ and The Economist. Still do as the alternative
 
Agreed, Walz’s DUI is a nothing burger.

I know weird bump…just going back through to find initial takes of Walz

The only thing I cared about with the story, was he attempted to blame a fake disability from his service on the DUI
 
They will be like a zoo, we can go visit liberals in their natural habitat
People already do.
1. NYC
2. Miami
3. Orlando (Disney)
4. LA
5. San Fran
6. Las Vegas
7. DC
8. Chicago
9. Boston

Seems people love visiting the natural liberal habitat.
 
I know I come off as a raging liberal/leftist but really I’m not. I do like to stir the pot but I’m probably closer to libertarian than any other party. I didn’t vote for Trump or Harris because Tennessee is deeply red and it really wouldn’t matter either way.

To me, it was the same this year with Harris as 2016. They were hoping to Weekend at Bernies Biden and hope no one would notice. We all noticed. And when we did they gave of us his VP which was basically a worse extension of him. She was one of the most unliked VPs in recent memory and you have to try to be unliked as a VP. Nobody really wanted to vote for her and the dems were hoping her being a minority and not Trump would be enough. We were told to fall in line with her and democrat party again. You would think they learned their lesson in 2016.

Trump performed basically the same as 2020 and the DNC/Kamala lost 15 million votes last I saw. I’m almost surprised she got the votes she did.
 
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Can you imagine what a badass he’d be if he got shot in the ear? 😉
He served in WWII. Trump is a tough SOB to roll off of that so easily. His skin though, is several layers thinner than Carter's. In a time when there was no social media, Carter was getting raked over the coals. He never responded with petulant, personal insults towards those criticizing him. That's what sets him miles apart from the Donald.
 
they said that obummer's wingman holder vetted this clown.... wonder what the q and a were
Obama and Co. got the result of the effort they put into it. Said it earlier, the left needs Obama, Hillary and those MSM supposes connected to Obama to leave politics.
 
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Out of the names that have been discussed in the media, this is where I'm at:

1. Pete
2. Beshear
Big gap here...
3. Kelly
4. Pritzker
5. Walz
6. Shapiro

Shapiro last while many have him first. That’s wild to me. But granted, I’m not familiar with the possible sexual harassment scandal you mentioned.

What Shapiro has that Walz doesn’t is the gift of public speaking and the ability to communicate his ideas clearly
 

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