2024 Presidential Race

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CardsNVols said:
My county went 80-18 in favor of Trump this go-around after being 78-21 in 2020. Just for reference, Al Gore won this county 24 years ago and Obama got nearly 40% of its vote in ‘08.

Democrats are past the point of no return in stopping the bleeding. At the national level, they have painted themselves into a position where they are absolutely cooked without massively running up the score in the cities. Identity politics don’t seem to be a winning message in the suburbs, at least not when inflation is high.
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The other issue is the changes to the rules in 2020 to get over and back in power awakened many voters that wouldn't ordinarily vote.

Republicans will have a deep pool of candidates post Trump, but democrats always have something up their sleeves.
 
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volfanhill said:
In 2004 I was told Dems would never win another national election
In 2008 I was told Republicans would never win another national election
In 2016 I was told Dems would never win another national election
In 2020 I was told Republicans would never win another national election
In 2024 here you are

Stop. The middle 10% in a few states decide these things. Dems when hold all three branches again at some point in the next 16 years. History says so. Actually history would suggest in the next 6 it will happen
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In 2024 I was told there would never be another election. That was new.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree with it except for his contention that the Georgia case was the legit one. Seems the J6 one had the most underlying legitimacy. The Georgia one is a joke.
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And others would say the Documents case was the best.

I think his larger point, that the totality of the action from the Democrat apparatus (the party in power) illuminated for many what appeared to be a concerted effort to take out their chief political rival, was spot on.
 
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85SugarVol said:
And others would say the Documents case was the best.

I think his larger point, that the totality of the action from the Democrat apparatus (the party in power) illuminated for many what appeared to be a concerted effort to take out their chief political rival, was spot on.
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oh I agree - just found that particular example as weird given he called out the Bragg case. Both were locals trying to make a name.
 
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volinbham said:
oh I agree - just found that particular example as weird given he called out the Bragg case. Both were locals trying to make a name.
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Absolutely.

AG’s & DA’s running on “I’ll get Trump”, and then filing charges against Trump - goes to the “totality of the action” from the Democrat apparatus.

Biden DOJ members resigning, to support State prosecutions of Trump - goes to the totality of the action.

Disparate treatment of Biden & Trump for the same underlying crime (behavior after the crime notwithstanding) - goes to the totality of the action.

I could go on…
 
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www.foreignaffairsreview.com

Trump's Embrace of Identity Politics — FOREIGN AFFAIRS REVIEW

In his speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, former President Obama, then a state senator, declared that ‘There is not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there is the United States of America’. Obama was attempting to create a unifying message
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think you have an understanding of what identity politics is .... if you don't think Trump is guilty of it.
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I realize that Trump engages in rhetoric that you want to draw an equivalency too.

What I’ve said, repeatedly, is that it is not the traditional identity politics that the Democrats engage in - which was firmly rebuked in the election we just witnessed.
 
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