2024 Presidential Race

[LouderVol]

???? No clue who that is.

he is another one of the "he didn't practice real socialism" guys that young people like to wear on their shirts.

one of those chinese character tattoos that young people think make them look intelectual, when in reality it doesn't say "Serenity" its says "Soy Sauce" and they are too lazy to check before getting the tattoo.

 

[VOLS INC.]

We are shocked.

Our education system has failed so many. Including Luther. Sad.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Ukraine would be barely a drop in the bucket regarding Trumps budget waste

When you were named as head of companies with trillion dollar budgets that you didn’t have complete control over. Exactly what did you do to fix things?

I’m sure you listened to fence sitting know it alls that really don’t have a clue of the size of the problem. The little guys that like to sit around and opine and pontificate online. Those guys are miserable and suck the life out of a room.

Don’t be that guy.

 

[McDad]

The filibuster needs to be harden so marxist like her and others in the democrat party cannot touch it in the future ...

From the article:

“I don’t think it’s in opposition at all. I think, obviously, would I be, am I championing getting rid of the filibuster now, when the Senate has the trifecta?” Jayapal continued. “No, but had we had the trifecta, I would have been because we have to show that government can deliver.”

The same day Manchin defended the filibuster against Harris’s attacks on it, Jayapal posted online that “The filibuster was originally created *by mistake* in 1806. Every day we don’t abolish it is just as big a mistake.”

Jayapal also has a section on her House website dedicated to eliminating the “Jim Crow filibuster.”

Jayapal admits she only wanted to nuke the filibuster when Democrats controlled the Senate - Washington Examiner

Jayapal has long been an advocate of reforming and removing the rule that protects the minority party in the

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Equally assured destruction protects things like filibuster even though some fringe folk want to see it disappear. Rs and Ds both wanna use it when in minority and both don't wanna see it used when in majority.

 

[McDad]

I'm just saying that is how Trump made it sound ....

Understood.
I'm offering thoughts on the objective element ( giving to a foundation) without comment on the subjective element (how it looks or sounds).

Another step in this to me, is money paid to Harpo the same as money paid to Oprah? It's closer than a foundation donation. But still not sliding her a suitcase full of cash when she shows up.

 

[85SugarVol]

Equally assured destruction protects things like filibuster even though some fringe folk want to see it disappear. Rs and Ds both wanna use it when in minority and both don't wanna see it used when in majority.

Find 60 reasonable Senators and get it enshrined.

Should be at the top of the to do list.

 

[hndog609]

That someone would be multiple someones.....all from the right.....content being happily lapped up by others from the right.

We need evilawyer.........reflection....counter balance

Someone whose schtick is 90% throwing tweet grenades and yelling "Dark Brandon biotches!" isn't really much of a help to the cause. Many examples were so bad it would almost make you think she was really a Trumper that was trying to make the Dems look like idiots.

 

[luthervol]

Someone whose schtick is 90% throwing tweet grenades and yelling "Dark Brandon biotches!" isn't really much of a help to the cause. Many examples were so bad it would almost make you think she was really a Trumper that was trying to make the Dems look like idiots.

My position is simply that the ratio of tweet grenades is 10 to 1 ....... right wing to left wing.
Without el, that ratio will be 50 to 1.....which is even more unhealthy to the pf.

 

[whodeycin85]

he is another one of the "he didn't practice real socialism" guys that young people like to wear on their shirts.

one of those chinese character tattoos that young people think make them look intelectual, when in reality it doesn't say "Serenity" its says "Soy Sauce" and they are too lazy to check before getting the tattoo.

He knows he just trolling and acting dumb...for someone so educated he knows very little of event or the world he speaks of

 

[VOLS INC.]

My position is simply that the ratio of tweet grenades is 10 to 1 ....... right wing to left wing.
Without el, that ratio will be 50 to 1.....which is even more unhealthy to the pf.

Ya know. With EL MIA. LG now an “Independent”. And Turbo being forced into early retirement. You may have to step up and be the guy! The poster that balances out the PF.

No more golf. No more vacations. Your country needs you Luther.

 

[hndog609]

My position is simply that the ratio of tweet grenades is 10 to 1 ....... right wing to left wing.
Without el, that ratio will be 50 to 1.....which is even more unhealthy to the pf.

Understood, I'm just saying your side might need better allies.

 

[luthervol]

Ya know. With EL MIA. LG now an “Independent”. And Turbo being forced into early retirement. You may have to step up and be the guy! The poster that balances out the PF.

No more golf. No more vacations. Your country needs you Luther.

It may be more interesting to test what ultimately happens to people who exists in a chamber with an unobstructed echo.

Total deafness is my hypothesis.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

These people who said they were going to fix the economy couldn't manage a campaign budget that took in over $1 Billion.

It will be interesting to see what is revealed to the public about the Harris campaign spending. If it is true about some of the items I have seen, $100k to set up the Who's Your Daddy podcast set, $1M to Oprah and others there will need to be some serious questions answered from the Democratic party on why that was allowed.

There seems to be a significant amount of money that was spent to pad the rich's pockets from a campaign that ran on taxing the rich. It is only slightly ironic.

It appears to have been a severely mismanaged campaign. Will the Dems look into it? My money is on no since I do believe their core values do not actually line up with what they publicly support.

 

[hog88]

Yes .... and he definitely made it sound like the point of the donation to the Clinton Foundation was to get them to attend his wedding. It does not specify exactly when the donation was made, but that is what Trump made it sound like.

He donated years before he was even engaged.

 

[hog88]

I'm just saying that is how Trump made it sound ....

Or is that how you read it?

 

[BowlBrother85]

It may be more interesting to test what ultimately happens in a chamber with an unobstructed echo.

Total deafness is my hypothesis.

I have said it before .... An echo chamber is what they seem to prefer. For them, this forum is more about seeking an affirmation of their belief system, than it is having constructive debates with substantive dialogue, where opposing perspectives are being presented.

 

[VOLS INC.]

It may be more interesting to test what ultimately happens to people who exists in a chamber with an unobstructed echo.

Total deafness is my hypothesis.

No need to test it. Just analyze. Look what’s happened to your party. Over and over moderate democrats have stated that dissenting voices are silenced. That the far left radical ideology dominates.

What ultimately happens?? Trump wins bigly, and those same democrats blame Hispanics and their misogyny as the reason.

No need to test. Just objectively analyze.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Or is that how you read it?

You read it and tell me what you think .... Trump made it sound like the point of the donation was to get the Clintons to go to his wedding. Now, I realize that Trump is often inarticulate .... and his followers will frequently give him a pass for saying dumb things .... but he said, what he said.

 

[McDad]

It may be more interesting to test what ultimately happens to people who exists in a chamber with an unobstructed echo.

Total deafness is my hypothesis.

You are ignorant of the regular posters who do not echo. There is a lot of disagreement. Some of that disagreement is actually really good discussion. May not be coincidental you are not involved in those moments though. Perhaps you are listening only for the echos and finding exactly what you are looking for.

 

[Godfatha]

I have said it before .... An echo chamber is what they seem to prefer. For them, this forum is more about seeking an affirmation of their belief system, than it is having constructive debates with substantive dialogue, where opposing perspectives are being presented.

I’m fine with debate, but there was no debating with EL. They simply did not engage in debate, just dropped something off twitter from a left leaning source and didn’t respond to any dialogue after.

 

[LouderVol]

It may be more interesting to test what ultimately happens to people who exists in a chamber with an unobstructed echo.

Total deafness is my hypothesis.

or a big defeat in the presidential election, after assuming the Rs would never win the popular vote again.

its not like you are really challenging yourselves posting in the FF if you just turn around and only consume left leaning media. you have kept yourselves closed into your own echo chamber, when you post here its the equivalent of plugging your ears and shouting instead of engaging in meaningful conversation.

you come in hear and spout directly what you hear from your own echo chamber, admit to posting just to rile people up, and have directly refused information that would/should at least provide context on what you post about. you have actively rejected better information on guns, a matter you claim to take seriously. but you won't participate in an actual conversation on the matter that would take you into another "echo chamber".

 

[BowlBrother85]

I’m fine with debate, but there was no debating with EL. They simply did not engage in debate, just dropped something off twitter from a left leaning source and didn’t respond to any dialogue after.

I can't read that without pointing out how that is exactly what @W.TN.Orange Blood does .... except the tweets he posts are from right-leaning sources, and he posts in more of a prolific fashion.

 

[McDad]

I can't read that without pointing out how that is exactly what @W.TN.Orange Blood does .... except the tweets he posts are from right-leaning sources, and he posts in more of a prolific fashion.

May I ask you a question about that?

Do you read what he posts?

 

[NorthDallas40]

A full week later I continue to be highly amused at Democrats and their media surrogates lecturing minorities for not voting how they were told to vote

 

[Godfatha]

I can't read that without pointing out how that is exactly what @W.TN.Orange Blood does .... except the tweets he posts are from right-leaning sources, and he posts in more of a prolific fashion.

Fair point. I do think respectful debate leads to some understanding. I don’t think the average Dem voter is evil just like the average Rep voter is not evil. I think the lions share of us just want the best for ourselves, our family and our country. We all have different backgrounds that may lead us to think about the issues with this country differently.