2024 Presidential Race

[marcusluvsvols]

he is another one of the "he didn't practice real socialism" guys that young people like to wear on their shirts.

one of those chinese character tattoos that young people think make them look intelectual, when in reality it doesn't say "Serenity" its says "Soy Sauce" and they are too lazy to check before getting the tattoo.

 

[hUTch2002]

Last month at a rally in Pennsylvania, Trump said that he was "not that close to 80." He will turn 80 years of age in less than 2 years. He will lie about anything ... even things which are very easily fact-checked.

Trump, 78, insists he’s ‘not that close to 80’

The former president will turn 80 in one year and eight months

the-independent.com

This is where the left loses credibility. That’s an opinion. How do you define “that close”? Just because you define it one way and Trump does another doesn’t make it a lie. Trump is a master of embellishing and he certainly lies but nowhere near the amount people claim.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[hUTch2002]

Not to mention how they screwed over their voters by pretending Biden was fine (until they couldn’t any longer) and then in an attempt to prove how much they cared about democracy, the most wealthy and powerful people in the party installed his replacement with zero discussion, vote, etc.

What’s funny is a lot of people now blame Biden for losing but they are the same people saying he was fine weeks before dropping out.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

lol....That's total bs
trump's total jumped 11 million above the repub peak.......and the dem's total jumped 11 million over their peak

Are you claiming the dems did not have a legitimate peak in 2008 with Obama running for the first time?


And what exactly did that repub trend do from 2020 to 2024?......when trump out preformed 2020 in pretty much every metric.....every location.....every demographic.

I guess the question is this:
Can a vote total jump by 11 million over the previous peak without their being something fishy going on?

Something like this happened.....

 

[kiddiedoc]

But you can regulate how fast a trigger can be pulled.

And released? Or is that way over your head?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Biden has that Delaware beach forever look on his mind.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Post from Benny Johnson

This is spectacular

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[luthervol]

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I didn't speak to the "legitimacy" of the 2008 peak. that is just an argument you are making up.

I was pointing out the fallacy of trying to draw conclusions from a comparison between a 4 year trend vs a 12 year trend. its nonsensical. you should have used the same time line.

You were also being fallacious in saying that the R peak was in 2020. 2024 Trump received 3 million more votes than he did in 2020.

you are cherry picking data instead of looking at it in context. which do you think is more suspicious when the IRS or the FBI looks at:
a bank account that goes from 58k, to 61k, to 62k, to 65k, to 72k, to 75k.
or.........................................................62m to 60m to 61m to 63m to 74m to 75m
a bank account that goes from 59k, to 69k, to 65k, to 65k, to 81k, to 72k.
and............................................59m to 69m to 66m to 66m to 81m to 72m
you are trying to act like they went directly from Obama's total, to Biden's total. that's not what happened. There was a downturn in between. there is no similar downturn with the Rs.

Your numbers look wrong - see above

Rebub numbers went down from '04 to '08 (so repubs did have a downturn and trends obviously reverse)
and repubs had an 11million jump from '16 to '20. (17.5% increase)
Dems went up by 10 million from '04 to '08. (17% increase) So it's not like it's unprecedented.
Dems went up by 11.5 million from '08 to '20. (16.7% increase)

 

[luthervol]

And released? Or is that way over your head?

Sure that can be engineered.

 

[n_huffhines]

Sent in my ballot (love mail-in. Amazing). Some really interesting stuff here in AZ.

We have a prop about ranked choice voting. We have a much needed prop lowering min wage by 25% for restaurants who can demonstrate workers are making enough tips to cover min wage.

Welp... I was on the losing side of most of these where I had an opinion. Can't believe how decisively we empowered the governor. COVID wasn't that long ago and we've already forgotten about emergency powers? I guess people like the pricing and lack of service with the restaurant business? Forcing a life sentence on all child traffickers is just people voting with their hearts without thinking it through. We're gonna give a life sentence to an 18 YO who pimps out his 17 YO GF because they are desperate drug addicts? Leave it up to the judge who has all the details of each case. No ranked choice voting.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Or you could look at this way.
The dems got 11 million more votes in 2020 than they did in 2008
AND
The repubs fot 11 million more votes in 2020 than they did in 2016.

Trump's votes jumped 11 million from 2016 to 2020 - come on - he must have been blatantly cheating.

The dems increase of 11 million votes over a 12 year period seems more plausible than the repubs increase of 11 million votes in just a four year period.

Should there be retribution for the repubs' blatant cheating????

Try this; TOTAL the number of votes for each election in question. I think the real question is why so many more people “voted” PERIOD than the relative distribution between the candidates. And why did those people NOT appear in the 2024 totals?

 

[OrangeTsar]

The only Tshirt with a humans head on it more popular than Che among college aged lefties is probably Bob Marley. Been that way since I was that age, 30 years ago. The man was a Communist, a butcher, all around horrible human being but his fat head has been all over ignorant teens forever. Its 1 of the 50 or so you can get screenprinted on a Tshirt in the "edgy teenager store" at every shopping mall in America. Right between Pink Floyd and RATM.

Google pic for reference.
Real POS.

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Personally, this is MY preference

 

[marcusluvsvols]

If we're just looking at the 2024 race then it's definitely true. Stolen valor is a pretty serious lie. Or did you believe his rank and that he carried a gun in war?

...and that he was personally at the Tiananmen Square incident.

...and saying he and his wife had a child due to IVF (she later told the truth that no they had not)

There are other whoppers too from his past, like lying about getting a DUI, and being given awards etc but for me and most folks IMO the stolen valor lies are definitely the worst. So strange and just a really weird dude. He had no reason to lie about his service at all either...or at least the rank achieved. To make it to Sergeant Major is extremely impressive to anyone from a military family or background. Why lie and say you were 1 rank higher? The difference is negligible to pretty much everyone. He was a horrible VP pick, I am glad the Dimwits chose him.

 

[VOLS INC.]

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“Did you see LG is an independent now??”

 

[SlipKidVol]

The only Tshirt with a humans head on it more popular than Che among college aged lefties is probably Bob Marley. Been that way since I was that age, 30 years ago. The man was a Communist, a butcher, all around horrible human being but his fat head has been all over ignorant teens forever. Its 1 of the 50 or so you can get screenprinted on a Tshirt in the "edgy teenager store" at every shopping mall in America. Right between Pink Floyd and RATM.

Google pic for reference.
Real POS.

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and Luther claimed to not know who he is

 

[luthervol]

Try this; TOTAL the number of votes for each election in question. I think the real question is why so many more people “voted” PERIOD than the relative distribution between the candidates. And why did those people NOT appear in the 2024 totals?

That is the real question. But remember, both parties showed an 11 million jump over their previous high.

 

[McDad]

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“Did you see LG is an independent now??”

The ice cream machine at McDonald's made the best ice cream when I worked there. The best. Everyone said so. No one had ever had ice cream that good before. All we heard was how good it was.

 

[OrangeTsar]

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“Did you see LG is an independent now??”

“Hey, that fire is burning WOOD right? Not Jack Smith’s records?”

 

[hUTch2002]

How is '72? I always liked him....and Weezer ......that's about it for right wing nuts.

Aw, my feelings are hurt. I assume I’m in “right wing nut” camp according to you.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Try this; TOTAL the number of votes for each election in question. I think the real question is why so many more people “voted” PERIOD than the relative distribution between the candidates. And why did those people NOT appear in the 2024 totals?

155 million voted for Biden/Trump in 2020. You are at 148M now Tump/Harris with the number likely around 151M once everything gets counted.

More people voted in battleground states in 2024 than 2020.

You get bad overall numbers when you compare fully counted (2020) to not fully counted (2024)

 

[LouderVol]

Your numbers look wrong - see above

Rebub numbers went down from '04 to '08 (so repubs did have a downturn and trends obviously reverse)
and repubs had an 11million jump from '16 to '20. (17.5% increase)
Dems went up by 10 million from '04 to '08. (17% increase) So it's not like it's unprecedented.
Dems went up by 11.5 million from '08 to '20. (16.7% increase)

doesn't disprove my assertion, if anything it still backs it up. you are still cherry picking, and the overall trends remain the same.

you keep wanting to act like the only two data points are at whatever arbitrary ends you select, so you just ignore what came between.

R's 2004 to 2008 (-3.3%), 2008 to 2012 (+1.5%), 2012 to 2016 (+3.2%), 2016 to 2020 (+15%), 2020 to 2024 (+1%) that is down, up, up, up, up (clear trend)

D's: 2004 to 2008 (+15%), 2008 to 2012 (-4%), 2012 to 2016 (no growth), 2016 to 2020 (+19%), 2020 to 2024 (-11%) thats is up, down, neutral, up, down (no trend, maybe it repeats in 2028 with a neutral performance)

there is a lot more variability in the Ds voting trends than the Rs.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Everyone of those publications are biased, leftist rags

Most people do not realize how many liberal rag newspapers are owned by the same Leftist company....the Boston Globe, Charlotte Observer, Kansas City, etc . Formerly Knight Ridder Co, but they were bought out by McClatchy to make an even larger monopoly on newspapers. They feature the same editorials, endorse the same Democrat candidates, and print the same slanted journalism everyday nationwide.

Thankfully, they are going the way of the dinosaur along with legacy media MSM...its only a matter of time. I must admit that there are certain aspects of the local paper which I will miss. The sportspage keeping up with HS sports, the classified ads, and the comics were always cool. My granny and wife both used to clip coupons from the Sunday edition too. My grandparents grew up dirt-floor poor, so my Pappaw used to wrap my birthday presents in the color "funny pages" as he called them from the Sunday Sentinel. They had plenty of money for wrapping paper by then, he did it to not be wasteful, and because I liked it. He was a great man in every sense of the word.

 

[luthervol]

there is a lot more variability in the Ds voting trends than the Rs.

Which only serves to make a one year jump LESS of an anomaly......and the repubs. 11 million jump more of an anomaly.