2024 Presidential Race

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Jackcrevol said:
Political rhetoric. He's been a decent President. Not the best. But, we needed boring. No one will appreciate that.

Anyway, you wont change my mind. Nor will I yours.
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Boring? Allowing our country to be invaded at the border is boring? Your mind is too small to be changed. You support a demented pedo that showered with his child.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Boring? Allowing our country to be invaded at the border is boring? Your mind is too small to be changed. You support a demented pedo that showered with his child.
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Ahh yes. Ad hominem, the calling card of alt righters.

The border crisis, while not handled...at all. Has been here far longer than Joseph Biden. While his international diplomacy has been weaker than i'd hoped. It's certainly not the top of the pile.

Also, it isnt that I support a 'demented pedo.' BTW, we can play ping pong on this sexual immorality issue all day long with Trump.

I don't support recklessness, self promotion, pre-pubescent morals/ethics, and emotionality.

What are my options, man? I mean, two decades of this. The last ok option, was Obama or John Mccain. John was 'too old.' Now look! Our Country cant decide on the color of shiite.IMG_4954.jpeg
There are no Clinton's or Bush's in the wings. This is it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It's all relative and Biden is an infinitely better human being than Trump. Far classier. Humble. And a sense of service to the country, rather than himself.

People don't leave the Biden administration in droves, shouting how unqualified and dangerous he is, as they do with Trump.
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I didn’t ask relative to Trump. Do you find Biden to be a man of integrity?
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I disagree. It’s a states rights issue. Next question. See it’s not that hard.
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You might be right. If they stay in lock step and stick to that simple answer I think it avoids potential footholds for Dems and MSM to grab. I just don’t see that happening though. I bet Reps end up in the weeds rather than staying high level and simple.
 
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volgr said:
He was chastising Georgia for reopening their State too soon. He advocated for the 15 days to slow the spread narrative, he advocated a rushed vaccine with little to no trials, he went along with all of it.
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Covid was the one time I felt like Trump caved to social pressure vs sticking to his guns. Maybe I’m wrong but I think that’s why he turned everything over to Fauci and we all know how that went.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Ahh yes. Ad hominem, the calling card of alt righters.

The border crisis, while not handled...at all. Has been here far longer than Joseph Biden. While his international diplomacy has been weaker than i'd hoped. It's certainly not the top of the pile.

Also, it isnt that I support a 'demented pedo.' BTW, we can play ping pong on this sexual immorality issue all day long with Trump.

I don't support recklessness, self promotion, pre-pubescent morals/ethics, and emotionality.

What are my options, man? I mean, two decades of this. The last ok option, was Obama or John Mccain. John was 'too old.' Now look! Our Country cant decide on the color of shiite.View attachment 614934
There are no Clinton's or Bush's in the wings. This is it.
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Larry Sinclair says no to Obama
 
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turbovol said:
There is no agenda for Republicans/maga/gangster other than "we hate progressives, blacks, immigrants, gays and independent women."

That is the right-wing agenda, summed up.
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Ah, so you go for we hate Trump. That was literally Biden’s 2020 campaign.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
You might be right. If they stay in lock step and stick to that simple answer I think it avoids potential footholds for Dems and MSM to grab. I just don’t see that happening though. I bet Reps end up in the weeds rather than staying high level and simple.
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I have waited for a politician go the Belichick route. Just simple answers then go and do their job.
 
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turbovol said:
So then what policy agenda do Republicans have? Answer: Nothing much. The GOP-led House did nothing. Republicans themselves have complained about it. Biden's Infrastructure and chip/science bills will help this country far more than anything the gangster did--or would ever do. You've got Republicans all over the country touting the coming infrastructure improvements in their district when they all voted against the bill. That's how they roll. They won't do a border bill now, for political reasons

There is room for Dems and Republicans to start compromising more--and we have to.
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That last sentence is hilarious from you who does nothing but hurls one insult after another at a group of people.
 
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Liz Cheney urges Nikki Haley to STAY in the race until Super Tuesday: Trump allies say they are 'birds of a feather' and claim ex-congresswoman's support is 'final nail in the coffin'​


Former Rep. Liz Cheney urged Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley to stay in the 2024 race - at least until Super Tuesday - drawing ire from some of former President Donald Trump's allies.

'I hope she stays in the race,' Cheney said. 'As long as she has to, certainly through Super Tuesday. I think that we're in a situation where only two states have voted and you had something like 35 percent, I believe, of Republicans coming out of the voting in New Hampshire saying they would never vote for Donald Trump.'

The former congresswoman's comments were not an official endorsement of Haley, with the podcasters asking Cheney if she worried that might hurt the former U.N. ambassador chances.

'I haven't made any formal endorsements at this point but certainly I would never support or vote for Donald Trump again,' Cheney said.

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Trump's allies were quick to link Cheney to Haley, after she expressed that the former South Carolina governor should continue her bid.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul posted to X, 'If there was ever any doubt which team Nikki Haley plays for, Liz "I'm no longer a Republican" Cheney just endorsed her! #nevernikki.'

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Liz Cheney urges Nikki Haley to STAY in the race until Super Tuesday

Liz Cheney urged Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley to stay in the 2024 race - at least until Super Tuesday - drawing ire from some of former President Donald Trump's allies.
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The Republican Party is setting Trump up with this primary nomination without actual voting, If the Dems come in with a DNC selection, it will bypass the voters. Trump would not be able to use the argument that he/she was not elected, but chosen.
 
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The gangster, while president, was rightly impeached twice--for abuse of power and for trying to subvert the presidential election. He was
guilty on both counts, clearly--but bailed out by pathetic Senate Republicans who simply chose not to oust him from the White House....

Since his '20 loss, the gangster has...

1) Been found guilty of bank/real estate fraud in New York and we are awaiting a judge's ruling on the punishment for his company;

2) Been found guilty, twice, of defaming E. Jean Harris, with the judge in the first trial affirming that Trump sexually assaulted the victim.

3) Been indicted for stealing classified documents that belong to the U.S. government, with a trial upcoming. The issue being not only that
the gangster took the documents--but that for more than a year, refused to return the documents despite numerous requests from the government to do do. He eventually returned some of the documents and then lied to the authorities, claiming that he'd returned all the documents when he clearly had not. And he had instructed employees to hide some of the documents so that the could not be discovered and returned.....

4) Been indicted for acts related to trying to steal the '20 election, including the redneck/MAGA attack on the U.S. Capitol plus the false electors scheme, and will go on trial for all of it. There is a mountain of evidence.

5) Been indicted in Georgia for conspiracies to commit forgery in the first degree, foro making false statements and writings, for filing false documents, and for impersonating a public official. He is also charged with violating the Georgia Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act and committing the offenses of filing false documents, making false statements and writings, and soliciting a public official to violate his oath. Trial forthcoming.


What kind of man does all this, has all this $hit hanging over him, is certain to face additional convictions and/or serious penalties, and says: "You know, I want to run for president again. I should be president again." You'd have to see it to believe it. And this is just the legal peril he faces on multiple fronts: We haven't even covered his incompetence and corruption as president---taking money from foreign countries, making money off of the presidency--egregious corruption, botching the Covid crisis, his unrequited love for PutinWarCriminal and other dictators, running up the deficit, alienating America's most important allies, his disdain for the rule of law and lack of respect for America's system of government, along with his constant reprehensible behavior and ******* /clown/nasty con man personalty. Or the fact that almost every person who has worked with the man over time or in the White House or in his administration, absolutely hates him and considers him utterly unfit for public office.

And what kind of imbeciles look at all this and say, "Yea, we support his aim to be president again"?

It's beyond the pale...a sad commentary on our country. .
 
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turbovol said:
The gangster, while president, was rightly impeached twice--for abuse of power and for trying to subvert the presidential election. He was
guilty on both counts, clearly--but bailed out by pathetic Senate Republicans who simply chose not to oust him from the White House....

Since his '20 loss, the gangster has...

1) Been found guilty of bank/real estate fraud in New York and we are awaiting a judge's ruling on the punishment for his company;

2) Been found guilty, twice, of defaming E. Jean Harris, with the judge in the first trial affirming that Trump sexually assaulted the victim.

3) Been indicted for stealing classified documents that belong to the U.S. government, with a trial upcoming. The issue being not only that
the gangster took the documents--but that for more than a year, refused to return the documents despite numerous requests from the government to do do. He eventually returned some of the documents and then lied to the authorities, claiming that he'd returned all the documents when he clearly had not. And he had instructed employees to hide some of the documents so that the could not be discovered and returned.....

4) Been indicted for acts related to trying to steal the '20 election, including the redneck/MAGA attack on the U.S. Capitol plus the false electors scheme, and will go on trial for all of it. There is a mountain of evidence.

5) Been indicted in Georgia for conspiracies to commit forgery in the first degree, foro making false statements and writings, for filing false documents, and for impersonating a public official. He is also charged with violating the Georgia Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act and committing the offenses of filing false documents, making false statements and writings, and soliciting a public official to violate his oath. Trial forthcoming.


What kind of man does all this, has all this $hit hanging over him, is certain to face additional convictions and/or serious penalties, and says: "You know, I want to run for president again. I should be president again." You'd have to see it to believe it. And this is just the legal peril he faces on multiple fronts: We haven't even covered his incompetence and corruption as president---taking money from foreign countries, making money off of the presidency--egregious corruption, botching the Covid crisis, his unrequited love for PutinWarCriminal and other dictators, running up the deficit, alienating America's most important allies, his disdain for the rule of law and lack of respect for America's system of government, along with his constant reprehensible behavior and ******* /clown/nasty con man personalty. Or the fact that almost every person who has worked with the man over time or in the White House or in his administration, absolutely hates him and considers him utterly unfit for public office.

And what kind of imbeciles look at all this and say, "Yea, we support his aim to be president again"?

It's beyond the pale...a sad commentary on our country. .
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Brainwashed cult members that believe he has done nothing wrong, it's a witch hunt because he is good and everyone else is evil. Sad. With his track record, it truly is unfathomable how he pulled it off.
 
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