2024 Presidential Race

#10,279
#10,279
hog88 said:
The Basketvol forum is a pretty unfriendly and cliquish place, a lot like the baseball forum. I post my comments about both here in the OT forum.
Click to expand...
You would be right at home in the Recruiting Forum’s Football Talk thread. It’s essentially a larger version of the PF Off Topic thread.

Replete with all manner of non-sensical banter, and all Vols sports team’s updates.
 
#10,280
#10,280

Drop Dead, New York. Drop Dead, Dems: How MIGRANT CRISIS Will Sink Biden​


Not since 1975 — when a famous tabloid headline read, “Ford to New York: Drop Dead” — have New York City’s finances and politics weighed so heavily on national consciousness.

Just as the city’s looming bankruptcy threatened President Gerald Ford’s reelection in 1976, unfettered immigration and rising crime are now imperiling President Biden’s chances at a second term.

Nothing embodies the link between these two issues more than the upsurge in migrant crime in New York, particularly the recent cases of the eight immigrants who attacked two cops in Times Square, the shooting there Thursday by someone police believe to be a migrant and the moped-migrant gang preying on New Yorkers.

Though bankruptcy isn’t looming, as in 1975, both the city and state face enormous financial challenges — a $4.3 billion state deficit and $7 billion in city red ink — in large part because of uncontrolled illegal immigration.

nypost.com

Drop dead, New York. Drop dead, Dems: How migrant crisis will sink Biden

Not since 1975 — when a famous tabloid headline read, “Ford to New York: Drop Dead” — have New York City’s finances and politics weighed so heavily on national consciousness.
nypost.com nypost.com
 
  • Like
Reactions: norrislakevol
#10,281
#10,281
BowlBrother85 said:
Whether or not it was accurate, is not the point. Hur was speculating as to how an unseated jury might favorably interpret a set of facts, based on sympathy. That is assuming a great deal, and really not his place at all.

The more likely scenario : Hur couldn't make a recommendation for charges, based on the evidence, but was under heat from his Republican Party cohorts to craft a report that would be politically damaging to Biden nonetheless. The report didn't read like something an attorney would write.
Click to expand...
His Republican Party cohorts?

He works for Merrick Garland. You really think Garland didn’t see the report?
 
  • Like
Reactions: W.TN.Orange Blood and hog88
#10,283
#10,283
turbovol said:
Ha, ha: An Argentine lecturing the world on economics? Argentina has been an economic basket case for 40 years--longer. Ya'll feel free to read about it.
Click to expand...
Your lack of awareness speaks to the effectiveness of your education....the reason he was elected was because polices you and your party support pushed Argentina into a crappy economy for 40 years and hyperinflation inflation the last 5 or so...
 
  • Like
Reactions: marcusluvsvols, W.TN.Orange Blood, davethevol and 2 others
#10,284
#10,284
K-town Vol Fan said:
He lied to the American public and said it wasn't a big deal. Then millions of Americans died.
Click to expand...
Would those people have been saved had anyone known how dangerous COVID was going to be here? Answer: No. It's a respiratory virus and will cycle through no matter what would have been done to stop it. And it did cycle through....all across the whole world no matter what was done.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marcusluvsvols
#10,289
#10,289
www.foxbusiness.com

'She hates politics': Rove calls out theorists who see Michelle Obama replacing Biden

Fox News contributor Karl Rove, a former top member of then-President George W. Bush's administration, sounded off on Michelle Obama's political prospects.
www.foxbusiness.com www.foxbusiness.com

"No — look, she hates politics. Read her autobiography," Rove told "Varney & Co." "She didn't want her husband to run for the [Illinois] State Senate. She didn't want him to run for the presidency. She's not a political animal."

"Rove added that a Michelle Obama ticket would undoubtedly lead to rumblings that she would simply be a presidential proxy for her husband.

"People would say that's Barack trying to get a third term as president and they wouldn't go for it," he argued. Former President Obama, he said, is a "smart guy" who would understand that.

"This is a weird obsession of the conspiratorial right — and it's just lunacy, pure lunacy," Rove said.
 
#10,291
#10,291
volfanhill said:
What? He let the states make their own decisions. That's 100% how we are designed. It's why Cali had to deal with shat oppressive leadership and others didn't. Weak? Wasn't him. Doing his job.
Click to expand...
You are doing some historical revisionism here which is more consistent with a member of the MAGA crowd, rather than someone who is taking a rational approach, instead of allowing themselves to be guided by partisan emotions. Trump's messaging during COVID was all over the place. He adjusted his tone as his re-election calculations shifted. It was poor leadership in a time of genuine crisis. The whole point of his first term was to win a 2nd term. His actions were indicative of this all the time.

At times, his rhetoric was indeed, dictatorial in nature.

www.politico.com

Trump: It’s my decision, not governors’, to reopen country

But the law suggests the president has less power than he thinks.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

^^^^ Such as when he falsely claimed that he could override a governor's decision concerning a shutdown.
 
#10,292
#10,292
BowlBrother85 said:
You are doing some historical revisionism here which is more consistent with a member of the MAGA crowd, rather than someone who is taking a rational approach, instead of allowing themselves to be guided by partisan emotions. Trump's messaging during COVID was all over the place. He adjusted his tone as his re-election calculations shifted. It was poor leadership in a time of genuine crisis. The whole point of his first term was to win a 2nd term. His actions were indicative of this all the time.

At times, his rhetoric was indeed, dictatorial in nature.

www.politico.com

Trump: It’s my decision, not governors’, to reopen country

But the law suggests the president has less power than he thinks.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

^^^^ Such as when he falsely claimed that he could override a governor's decision concerning a shutdown.
Click to expand...
You should read your citations.
From your link:
[Trump speaking]. “I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that’s the way it should be done,” he said. “If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I’d rather have them — you can call it ‘federalist,’ you can call it ‘the Constitution,’ but I call it ‘the Constitution’ — I would rather have them make their decisions.”

But pressed on what grounds he would have to reopen the country given his own refusal to impose a nationwide stay-at-home order, Trump was less deferential. “The states can do things if they want. I can override it if I want,” he said.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marcusluvsvols and hog88
#10,293
#10,293
1707604356564.png
Trump arrives on stage during a Get Out The Vote rally at Coastal Carolina University on February 10, 2024 in Conway, South Carolina

1707604407924.png
Nikki Haley participates in a campaign event at Newberry Opera House in Newberry, South Carolina, USA, 10 February 2024

www.dailymail.co.uk

Former president Trump is greeted by enormous crowd in South Carolina

Trump has turned his campaign focus to the southern state days after an easy victory in Nevada and revved up supports at a rally in Conway, near Myrtle Beach.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
#10,294
#10,294
McDad said:
“If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it.
Click to expand...
McDad said:
“The states can do things if they want. I can override it if I want,” he said.
Click to expand...
I read the whole thing. He was flat out wrong. He did not have the power to override a governor's decision.

Like I said, his messaging was all over the place. Ultimately, his assertion that he could override a governor was simply wrong. Granted, he seems to contradict this in other places .... and that is poor leadership from a clown who was confused as to what would best serve him politically in his desperate bid to be re-elected, which was the only thing he truly ever cared about.
 
#10,295
#10,295
BowlBrother85 said:
I read the whole thing. He was flat out wrong. He did not have the power to override a governor's decision.

Like I said, his messaging was all over the place. Ultimately, his assertion that he could override a governor was simply wrong. Granted, he seems to contradict this in other places .... and that is poor leadership from a clown who was confused as to what would best serve him politically in his desperate bid to be re-elected, which was the only thing he truly ever cared about.
Click to expand...
It isnt so black and white and you know it. Can he force Michigan to roll Fords and Chevys off the line? No.
Can he use federal power to force interstate travel, yes.

I thinks it's clear he wanted to defer to governors if expedient. It's one of the few things he got right, imo.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hog88 and volfanhill
#10,296
#10,296
McDad said:
It isnt so black and white and you know it. Can he force Michigan to roll Fords and Chevys off the line? No.
Can he use federal power to force interstate travel, yes.

I thinks it's clear he wanted to defer to governors if expedient. It's one of the few things he got right, imo.
Click to expand...
By Trump's own words .... that isn't clear at all.

An objective, honest, and non-partisan individual would acknowledge that Trump was very inconsistent on the matter. He was flat out wrong to assert that he had the power to override a governor's decision. It was dictatorial in nature for him to even make such a claim.

The things the right-wing echo chamber will defend Trump for are ridiculous. I am far more critical of Biden than the MAGA crowd is of Trump. You are a cult of personality.
 
#10,297
#10,297
BowlBrother85 said:
By Trump's own words .... that isn't clear at all.

An objective, honest, and non-partisan individual would acknowledge that Trump was very inconsistent on the matter. He was flat out wrong to assert that he had the power to override a governor's decision. It was dictatorial in nature for him to even make such a claim.

The things the right-wing echo chamber will defend Trump for are ridiculous. I am far more critical of Biden than the MAGA crowd is of Trump. You are a cult of personality.
Click to expand...
K.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sandman 423
#10,298
#10,298
BowlBrother85 said:
I read the whole thing. He was flat out wrong. He did not have the power to override a governor's decision.

Like I said, his messaging was all over the place. Ultimately, his assertion that he could override a governor was simply wrong. Granted, he seems to contradict this in other places .... and that is poor leadership from a clown who was confused as to what would best serve him politically in his desperate bid to be re-elected, which was the only thing he truly ever cared about.
Click to expand...
If your natural life was to be ended in jail, you'd be desperate too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BowlBrother85 and BernardKingGOAT
#10,300
#10,300
BowlBrother85 said:
I can't believe we are going to have a repeat of Biden vs Trump. The only positive thing to be said for either one of them ..... is that they aren't the other guy.
Click to expand...
It's disheartening. But honestly why would anyone worthy be willing to subject themselves to all of the ancillary BS?
 
  • Like
Reactions: USF grad in TN
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top