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[DarkPhoenix]

she has already proven she is not duplicating Kellie's path, in that her target recruits are not Glennville players,,,unlike Kellie she is going after SEC caliber players
This is where Kellie made her mistake and anybody who knows BB would see that.

And if you judge a coach by one game, then which game did you judge Kellie by?

When I said we didn’t have the right players to compete I was attacked, glad I wasn’t o]the only one that felt that way.

 

[volnationnj]

she has already proven she is not duplicating Kellie's path, in that her target recruits are not Glennville players,,,unlike Kellie she is going after SEC caliber players
This is where Kellie made her mistake and anybody who knows BB would see that.

And if you judge a coach by one game, then which game did you judge Kellie by?

Kellie didn't go after SEC caliber players ?
Spear, Jackson and Hollingshead aren't SEC caliber players ?

 

[Coach Jumper]

When I said we didn’t have the right players to compete I was attacked, glad I wasn’t o]the only one that felt that way.

take a winning system and acquire the right level of athleticism, skills and innate drive and you can win in the higher leagues.

If you drive a Gremlin and race other Gremlins and win,,ok
If you take your skills and Gremlin against Corvettes,,,no matter how good it was against other Gremlins,,,against the better car, you're simply outclassed

Take you driving skills and incorporate them into the faster, stronger Corvette and you have a great shot at winning the higher class race

 

[Coach Jumper]

Kellie didn't go after SEC caliber players ?
Spear, Jackson and Hollingshead aren't SEC caliber players ?

Recruits,,,not transfers
I have already seen the HS recruits they are tracking and they are SEC caliber recruits

Portal players are what they are band-aids
Your HS recruits are you foundation players, not your portal recruits
Kellie had plenty of bandaids but no "casts"

And right now to fill vacancies we have to have those bandaids
But if we don't recruit better HS players we will have to go back to the medicine cabinet every year

 

[River67]

Kapinus is the only one year so far. I hate to say this but I could see some of our older players getting a little bit less time next year. They’ll still have a role but I think for continuity purposes there will be more investment in players with more than one year.

She should have 2 years eligibility. She had a medical redshirt her freshman year and played 3 years and she should get the Covid year

 

[glv98]

take a winning system and acquire the right level of athleticism, skills and innate drive and you can win in the higher leagues.

If you drive a Gremlin and race other Gremlins and win,,ok
If you take your skills and Gremlin against Corvettes,,,no matter how good it was against other Gremlins,,,against the better car, you're simply outclassed

Take you driving skills and incorporate them into the faster, stronger Corvette and you have a great shot at winning the higher class race

Recruits,,,not transfers
I have already seen the HS recruuits they are tracking and they are SEC caliber recruuits

All this gobbelbygook to say Kellie couldn't recruit corvette type high school players. Well I'll be dang, who knew?

But it wasn't bc she couldn't identify them nor bc she didn't try. Madison Booker ring a bell? Or Del Rosario? Or Shade?

I do believe she could have recruited the same players out of the portal we're seeing interest fm now.

But none of that had anything to do w what the previous posts were about. They were about strict adherence to the 'system'.

And yes I judged off one game bc it's the only one available unless I want to depress myself by watching the Va Tech game.

 

[Coach Jumper]

think HS recruits,,,how many of her HS recruits came in SEC quality and SEC ready...oh right,,,there weren't but a couple in 5 years

enjoy your depression
as for me I believe in and will back this coach
have nice day

 

[Volfaninfl2]

yeah, that’s all yikes on bikes to me.

The other thing that ’jumped out to me’ was that Coach Burdette was the in game Coach. Reminds me of Joni, and when I see something like that anywhere, it makes me wonder about the ‘Head’ Coach.

 

[Rooster1]

I have always refrained from speaking on your previous coach, didn’t seem right on a LV thread. I’ll keep this short, thought she was a great chemistry builder but as many have pointed out, the 5 year track record of not recruiting well (understatement) from the HS ranks at an institution with the pedigree of UT was baffling to me. I know many put that solely on the perceived NIL situation, I don’t know anything about the true UT NIL situation while she was the coach, so I will only say during those 5 years we have all witnessed many programs, and several that were considered very much inferior to UT collect some outstanding HS recruits. Whatever the reason for this situation, it was definitely the biggest factor imo for the change in leadership. I hope Harper finds a new school where she will be successful, she was so easy to like.

 

[SoullessGinger32_]

Anyone still whining about KC as our head coach is just a sad bunch of people. She's the lady in charge now and there's nothing you can do about it. **** the Summit tree. Clearly that didn't work for us. Also, the idiots thinking Parker is the next head coach in the future just keep dreaming.

 

[madtownvol]

she has already proven she is not duplicating Kellie's path, in that her target recruits are not Glennville players,,,unlike Kellie she is going after SEC caliber players
This is where Kellie made her mistake and anybody who knows BB would see that.

And if you judge a coach by one game, then which game did you judge Kellie by?

CJ, that is some impressive revisionist history. When KJH took over, the free agent, immediate eligibility transfer portal was not in existence. Kellie's main task was keeping Horston in the fold and minimizing roster loss.

She began with Burrell, Davis, Horston, KK, Jazz Massengill, Zaay Green, and Key. That is 3 future first round WNBA picks. I believe KK was also drafted in a later round and if Key had not health problems should would have been at least a 2nd round pick.

Kellie certainly went after SEC caliber players but as discussed ad nauseaum on this board, she could not sign enough of them.

Fair to say she should have done better with her initial staff hires. Bringing over her Missouri St. staff in total was a mistake but she shook that group up after (2? seasons).

And if the portal is a bandaid, a whole lot of teams are covered in them. I will take a Rickea jackson bandaid any time.

 

[volnationnj]

Recruits,,,not transfers
I have already seen the HS recruits they are tracking and they are SEC caliber recruits

Portal players are what they are band-aids
Your HS recruits are you foundation players, not your portal recruits
Kellie had plenty of bandaids but no "casts"

And right now to fill vacancies we have to have those bandaids
But if we don't recruit better HS players we will have to go back to the medicine cabinet every year

The UT recruited virtually the entire top 20, as per ESPN, the last 3 years. But they weren't able to sign but one of them.

 

[House|RockyTop]

Seems like from their years in the SEC.. Coach Tubner and Coach Lazo have no less than the same contacts if not better contacts than Coach Williams.

I’m glad she found a decent job.. but acting like there is some sort of downfall or disadvantage for her going to Mississippi State is laughable.

Nothing wrong with supporting a former coach but no reason to put out a false perception. Again, these new coaches in two weeks going into three weeks at Tennessee have recruited at a more substantial rate than the past 4-5 years.

 

[glv98]

The UT recruited virtually the entire top 20, as per ESPN, the last 3 years. But they weren't able to sign but one of them.

So odd that so many act like they never knew that. Only discussed several million times. And we all hope the new staff does much better. The bar couldn't be much lower. 25 hs recruiting is going to be mega important.

 

[madtownvol]

Anyone still whining about KC as our head coach is just a sad bunch of people. She's the lady in charge now and there's nothing you can do about it. **** the Summit tree. Clearly that didn't work for us. Also, the idiots thinking Parker is the next head coach in the future just keep dreaming.

No one is whining about CKC being head coach or anticipating that Candace will move into coaching. But you enjoy your imaginary argument....

 

[SoullessGinger32_]

Nothing imaginary about it. Clowns will be clowns

 

[Rooster1]

Seems like from their years in the SEC.. Coach Tubner and Coach Lazo have no less than the same contacts if not better contacts than Coach Williams.

I’m glad she found a decent job.. but acting like there is some sort of downfall or disadvantage for her going to Mississippi State is laughable.

Nothing wrong with supporting a former coach but no reason to put out a false perception. Again, these new coaches in two weeks going into three weeks at Tennessee have recruited at a more substantial rate than the past 4-5 years.

Have to agree here to a degree, the two portal signees so far are very good, maybe not Rikea good, but certainly on par maybe with Spears, perhaps better. The HS recruiting is what will be fascinating to watch develop.

 

[glv98]

Seems like from their years in the SEC.. Coach Tubner and Coach Lazo have no less than the same contacts if not better contacts than Coach Williams.

I’m glad she found a decent job.. but acting like there is some sort of downfall or disadvantage for her going to Mississippi State is laughable.

Nothing wrong with supporting a former coach but no reason to put out a false perception. Again, these new coaches in two weeks going into three weeks at Tennessee have recruited at a more substantial rate than the past 4-5 years.

Believe Sam's been at it, at least at P5 level, alot longer than the new guys. Her contacts are extensive by now. That isn't a false perception.

What is a false perception is that the new guys first two weeks, those two young transfers, is better than the last 4-5 years. Better than say when they got Rickea Jackson, Jewel Spear, Jillian Hollingshed, Destinee Wells just recently?

 

[AllVols3]

Believe Sam's been at it, at least at P5 level, alot longer than the new guys. Her contacts are extensive by now. That isn't a false perception.

What is a false perception is that the new guys first two weeks, those two young transfers, is better than the last 4-5 years. Better than say when they got Rickea Jackson, Jewel Spear, Jillian Hollingshed, Destinee Wells just recently?

You forgot Powell also

 

[Rooster1]

You forgot Powell also

Yeah, Powell was HM (or was is 2nd team?) All B1G when she transferred in, she was a catch also.

 

[House|RockyTop]

Have to agree here to a degree, the two portal signees so far are very good, maybe not Rikea good, but certainly on par maybe with Spears, perhaps better. The HS recruiting is what will be fascinating to watch develop.

I get your point but what we (as in UT fans) have to start seeing the value in all of our pieces and not compare one to the other.
I believe Jewel Spear will have a better second season in Knoxville.
Alyssa Latham and Lazaria Spearman both could’ve certainly had connection with the previous staff, yet they signed to come to Tennessee.
Spearman and Alyssa have a ton of connections with many good young players in WBB.
With adding Leilani Kapinus and Ruby Whitehorn that would provide UT with the type of competitors they have sought after. Vocal players on the court. Both Alyssa and Lazaria bring that as well. It has been the missing piece on the roster. As good as Rickea Jackson was that was not her personality. Neither was it how Jasmine Powell, Tamari Key, or even Jordan Horston were on the court.
Jewel Spear was use to talking which many heard her family even comment on at games and it frustrated her at times last season early on because teammates just weren’t responding and there was no on the court communication or communication from the sideline during games. The team just looked loss at times during competitive games.
Sometimes change is needed.
The previous way certainly worked during the CPS era but the sport is just different today.
With a new staff and these additions it helps build a new brand of basketball in Knoxville that fits the new WBB landscape.

 

[volbeast33]

The UT recruited virtually the entire top 20, as per ESPN, the last 3 years. But they weren't able to sign but one of them.

Landing them is the only thing that matters

 

[glv98]

Once lthe portal closes Wednesday things will probably start sorting themselves out with signings pretty quickly.

 

[House|RockyTop]

Believe Sam's been at it, at least at P5 level, alot longer than the new guys. Her contacts are extensive by now. That isn't a false perception.

What is a false perception is that the new guys first two weeks, those two young transfers, is better than the last 4-5 years. Better than say when they got Rickea Jackson, Jewel Spear, Jillian Hollingshed, Destinee Wells just recently?

You mean the Jillian Hollingshead who close friend posted her dunk video with a comment that said Jillian new coach motivated her to attempt that dunk and her words were I paraphrase “she loves her positive mindset and ambition.” Sounds like the new staff has not only recruited the returning players to stay but have reinvigorated their confidence.

Same with Jewel Spear as she announced publicly in her 2nd announcement to return to Rocky Top this off-season. Being around longer does not mean you have more contacts so you are wrong there and I know you won’t understand why so I won’t even waste time on the obvious.

 

[Rooster1]

I get your point but right we (as in UT fans) have to start seeing the value in all of our pieces and not compare one to the other.
I believe Jewel Spear will have a better second season in Knoxville.
Alyssa Latham and Lazaria Spearman right they could’ve certainly had connection with the previous staff, yet the sign to come to Tennessee. Spearman and Alyssa have a ton of connections with many good young players in WBB.
With adding Leilani Kapinus and Ruby Whitehorn that would provide UT with the type of competitors they have sought after. Vocal players on the court. Both Alyssa and Lazaria bring that as well. It has been the missing piece on the roster. As good as Rickea Jackson was that was not her personality. Neither was it how Jasmine Powell, Tamari Key, or even Jordan Horston were on the court.
Jewel Spear was use to talking which many heard her family even comment on at games and it frustrated her at times last season early on because teammates just weren’t responding and there was no on the court communication or communication from the sideline during games. The team just looked loss at times during competitive games.
Sometimes change is needed.
The previous way certainly worked during the CPS era but the sport is just different today.
With a new staff and these additions it helps build a new brand of basketball in Knoxville that fits the new WBB landscape.

That was a very good post imo HRT, well thought out and pretty accurate.