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Maybe we need to start a separate thread based around arguing about Kim and Kellie lol

At least the NIL conversations are somewhat tied to the transfer portal or transfers in general.
 
My error. I meant, what has Kim done that has shocked you. The credit for hiring her goes to the AD.
So just because she got the interview, she the job??

She had to impress somebody in the interview from a very dis advantage position...Having had no D-one experience .... To me that's pretty shocking, and if I remember correctly, there was a whole lot of sensation of online and in the press about an unproven being hard for tennesso I wasn't the only one shot.
 
She was coming something happened that changed her mind. Maybe a big Alabama booster got in the transaction or she just thought Bama was her best option as she was a starter there with huge minutes. I thought the only reason she got in the portal was for NIL money. Evidently Bama came through.
I don't think that's fair at all. Getting back in the portal was a really abrupt decision for Nye coming only a week or so after she re-committed to Bama. Must have been happy w her Bama bag at that point. Getting back in so quickly seemed more an emotional reflex to Tubner leaving. Maybe that resulted in getting her even more NIL $, but the timing, and the fact she changed her mind again, seem to indicate more a hasty decision. Which cooler heads probably had her reconsider.

Hate like hell we didn't get Nye, IMO having a proven SEC scorer like that is the difference in the LVs being actual contenders or not. But I think where she ended up was probably the best decision for her and not the "fault" of any of the coaches involved nor greed for $.
 
He has a personal vendetta against them all because they want no parts of his coaching "expertise" within their program. His I can be there tomorrow still hasn't gained any traction.

There is no personal vendetta... Like danny, I supported her fully until the fifth year when the team was entirely hers and her failure at the NCAA dictated that I cut the strings

It absolutely is the difference and was for several. Depending on a kid's situation, the money can be a major factor and let's not act like it didn't impact the previous staff.

Coach Jumper seems to have a personal vendetta against the previous staff now. He can't talk about Coach Kim without insulting the previous staff.
Have I Said anything or reference anything that was not public record and in my so so called vendetta.

There is No vendetta ... I supported her for the first couple of years. I questioned her the second couple of years. I agreed she needed to be gone the last year. That doesn't sound like a Vendetta. It sounds like the same opinion that 95% of the people on this site
 
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Not followed Pat Summitt's advice..." Pat said,,, You win with people you put good people around you",,, Pat put people around that had the qualities and Unique abilities She didn't possess and empowered them... Kelly as well as Holly, put people around them who.
We're seemingly not allowed to disagree with them....imo..of course
Jumper you are such a kellie hater. She's not our coach now. Why in the heck do you keep dragging her. Your posts have become ridiculous personal attacks non stop

Move on from her and your constant dragging.
 
There is no personal vendetta... Like danny, I supported her fully until the fifth year when the team was entirely hers and her failure at the NCAA dictated that I cut the strings


Have I Said anything or reference anything that was not public record and in my so so called vendetta.

There is No vendetta ... I supported her for the first couple of years. I questioned her the second couple of years. I agreed she needed to be gone the last year. That doesn't sound like a Vendetta. It sounds like the same opinion that 95% of the people on this site
But the others aren't making every post about dragging her like you.
 
I don't think that's fair at all. Getting back in the portal was a really abrupt decision for Nye coming only a week or so after she re-committed to Bama. Must have been happy w her Bama bag at that point. Getting back in so quickly seemed more an emotional reflex to Tubner leaving. Maybe that resulted in getting her even more NIL $, but the timing, and the fact she changed her mind again, seem to indicate more a hasty decision. Which cooler heads probably had her reconsider.

Hate like hell we didn't get Nye, IMO having a proven SEC scorer like that is the difference in the LVs being actual contenders or not. But I think where she ended up was probably the best decision for her and not the "fault" of any of the coaches involved nor greed for $.
Only a factor if we don't get Whitehorn or Kapinus as both bring as much or more to the team as she would've. Other than three point shooting she didn't offer much just 41 percent of two point field goals and 41 from the three overall 41.5 percent. Whitehorn brings 52 percent from the two only 28 from the three.. Kapinus 58 percent overall and 41 from the three although I would call it legitimate as she only took 65 threes last season. Her 72 steals really look good in this system.
 
I believe all major teams, including the LVs, have a base NIL salary. Agree, one of the great things about the So Car plan is everyone gets the same base.

We were told last year (and who knows what to believe) that although our "stars" got more $, even for RIckea it wasn't near what she could have gotten elsewhere. Also that the LVs got both Jewel and Destinee out of the portal for less combined than LSU paid Del Rosario for her last minute decision to go there.
Who told you that ?
 
Only a factor if we don't get Whitehorn or Kapinus as both bring as much or more to the team as she would've. Other than three point shooting she didn't offer much just 41 percent of two point field goals and 41 from the three overall 41.5 percent. Whitehorn brings 52 percent from the two only 28 from the three.. Kapinus 58 percent overall and 41 from the three although I would call it legitimate as she only took 65 threes last season. Her 72 steals really look good in this system.

Yeah if we’re comparing the 3 Nye brings less than either Whitehorn or Kapinus in terms of other skills. Kapinus and Whitehorn are both better defenders, better rebounders, better passers and quicker players than Nye.

The only leg up on them Nye has is her set shooting ability. If you get her a look from 3 with her feet set it’s cash money almost every time.

We have a couple players who can be that kind of shooter with some work though. Puckett has a beautiful shot and Darby is as good a set shooter as anyone in the SEC if you get her the looks.
 
Yeah if we’re comparing the 3 Nye brings less than either Whitehorn or Kapinus in terms of other skills. Kapinus and Whitehorn are both better defenders, better rebounders, better passers and quicker players than Nye.

The only leg up on them Nye has is her set shooting ability. If you get her a look from 3 with her feet set it’s cash money almost every time.

We have a couple players who can be that kind of shooter with some work though. Puckett has a beautiful shot and Darby is as good a set shooter as anyone in the SEC if you get her the looks.
Kapinus hit 41 percent last season I would settle if she could hit 35 percent. First time in her career she had gotten anywhere near that kind of three point shooting. She would have to prove it another season and would be glad to see if she could do it here at Tennessee.
 
Not followed Pat Summitt's advice..." Pat said,,, You win with people you put good people around you",,, Pat put people around that had the qualities and Unique abilities She didn't possess and empowered them... Kelly as well as Holly, put people around them who.
We're seemingly not allowed to disagree with them....imo..of course
Happy wife, happy life.
 
I believe all major teams, including the LVs, have a base NIL salary. Agree, one of the great things about the So Car plan is everyone gets the same base.

We were told last year (and who knows what to believe) that although our "stars" got more $, even for RIckea it wasn't near what she could have gotten elsewhere. Also that the LVs got both Jewel and Destinee out of the portal for less combined than LSU paid Del Rosario for her last minute decision to go there.
Our team does not have a base NIL salary. Last year many had what was called an event series deal where you were paid based on the event. Some had larger deals where they had monthly payments (ie salary). I imagine the model will be similar this year and we know have a couple with Vol Club too.
 
Jumper you are such a kellie hater. She's not our coach now. Why in the heck do you keep dragging her. Your posts have become ridiculous personal attacks non stop

Move on from her and your constant dragging.
I am not a Kellie hater at all.
I am a coach and my entire adult life has been in management...and quite simply ... "If I hired my best friend or one of my own family, and they couldn't do the job,,I would have to fire them just like anybody else.

Look back at my posts and you see the pattern was as I stated
first two years I backed and fully supported hiring Kellie,,,second two year I began to become critical of her decisions and lack of progress, poor closing of the recruits Sam brought in for her and lack of betterment of skills of her players and in year five I was fully behind the decision to let her go

That is not a vendetta and it has never reached "personal" in my posts or opinions.

Kellie was in over her head,,her decisions were led by emotion and it was obvious that it was more important for her to be liked than respected by her players....None of which is an attack.

AND I only speak of Kellie now when she is subject matter,,,which by the way,,,is NOT what this thread is about

So get off of my case!
 
He has a personal vendetta against them all because they want no parts of his coaching "expertise" within their program. His I can be there tomorrow still hasn't gained any traction.
If he starts reaching out personally to CKC’s players, like he did with Kellie’s players, he will be persona non grata with this staff too.
 
If he starts reaching out personally to CKC’s players, like he did with Kellie’s players, he will be persona non grata with this staff too.
Remember he was reaching out to Holly's players too, he does this whole, I support the coach and try to get in with the players and when the coach tells me No, I am no longer a supporter of hers and she was never qualified to begin with. He'll do the same with Coach Caldwell.
 
I am not a Kellie hater at all.
I am a coach and my entire adult life has been in management...and quite simply ... "If I hired my best friend or one of my own family, and they couldn't do the job,,I would have to fire them just like anybody else.

Look back at my posts and you see the pattern was as I stated
first two years I backed and fully supported hiring Kellie,,,second two year I began to become critical of her decisions and lack of progress, poor closing of the recruits Sam brought in for her and lack of betterment of skills of her players and in year five I was fully behind the decision to let her go

That is not a vendetta and it has never reached "personal" in my posts or opinions.

Kellie was in over her head,,her decisions were led by emotion and it was obvious that it was more important for her to be liked than respected by her players....None of which is an attack.

AND I only speak of Kellie now when she is subject matter,,,which by the way,,,is NOT what this thread is about

So get off of my case!
Agree with you Coach. Coaching is a business and must be handled that way. Hard decisions have to be made no matter who gets mad. Kellie made a decision to not keep Holly's recruiter and replacing her with an unknown was the first red light for me. High school recruiting suffered which was another red light and directly led to her being replaced. I love Kellie but just not as coach of the Lady Vols.
 
Is it the coaches fault she didn’t go pro?
Hmmmm…She did make some progress in her game, but coaches aren’t responsible for her physical health beyond certain kinds of injuries. Also, there are players who refuse to be coached, and some coaches who put up with it and others who don’t.
 
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Hmmmm…She did make some progress in her game, but coaches aren’t responsible for her physical health beyond certain kinds of injuries. Also, there are players who refuse to be coached, and some coaches who put up with it and others who don’t.
And also some players don’t put work in the off season, a coach can’t hold a players hand all year around.
 
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