2025 SEC Tournament

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VolsAgainstTheWorld15 said:
No, no, no…what Pearl did 10 years before Barnes was hired is what propelled him to success don’t ya know? Never mind that Cuonzo and Tyndall made a mess of things before Barnes showed up and had to build things up from literally the ground up.
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Nice strawman.
All I said is he would owe him a bit of gratitude. That's all I said.
Some of you are like children with your strawmen. I never said whatever Barnes accomplishes at Tennessee ( this season or career) is solely because of Pearl.
I said he owes him a bit of a thanks for putting the program on the map, and everything that comes with that.

I evidenced this with the fact that Barnes had already turned the job down once for being too much of a " football school".
The success Pearl had paved the way for him to later take the job here and eventually and indirectly have success.
The comprehension in this thread has been awe-inspiring to say the least.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Maybe he said it somewhere else another time but I didn't see anything from antisunshine about Pearl being mistreated. I agree Pearl landed himself in trouble but I still appreciate what he did here.
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I didn't say anything remotely close to that.
I've been getting strawmaned to death.
If they actually read what I wrote I don't think they would have much of a problem.
I think some people just immediately get triggered when they see Pearl and Barnes is the same sentence. They are both great coaches.

There's a nice article/video in the News Sentinel on how they both deserve to be on the Mt Rushmore of coaches that haven't won a championship.
 
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Kentucky just doesn't have what it takes to beat Bama. Their fans are absolutely convinced the refs are the main reason they losing this game. LoL
If they don't hit the 3 in a high clip, they are not a good team.
 
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Anti-shunshinepumper said:
Just because there was a couple of bad coaches in a short span between Pearl and Barnes doesn’t negate what I said or what Pearl accomplished.

Barnes could retire this year, and we could whiff on the next coach and have 3 years or so of bad basketball. Let's say we nail the next hire after that , and he ends up taking us to and getting us a Natty.
Are you saying that this new coach would have absolutely no reason to thank Barnes for what he has done for the program since he arrived?
Of course not. That would be dumb.

Hopefully, this helps you see how silly it is trying to discount Pearl helping make Tennessee men's basketball into what it is today.
Thanks to him and Barnes, we are no longer just a football and baseball school for men.
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If Barnes stupidly got us NCAA penalties…followed by the following coaches doing the same or worse? No. I wouldn’t give Pearl any credit because he destroyed what good he had done. It would be a rebuilding project.

And that’s exactly what Pearl and Tyndall did here. Barnes was faced with a dumpster fire when he arrived. He absolutely gets credit for not just rebuilding it. But taking it to consistent greatness over a lengthy period.

Same as Caldwell. As much as we all loved Coach Summitt, her two successors let the Lady Vols fall into despair. If Caldwell rebuilds back into a power? Caldwell will absolutely gets credit the credit. Not Pat.

And I haven’t heard of Bear Bryant getting credit for Saban’s dynasty, either. Or Vince Dooley getting credit for Kirby’s.

The mental gymnasiums some of you go through to elevate former Vol coaches is mind boggling.
 
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EZE said:
If Barnes stupidly got us NCAA penalties…followed by the following coaches doing the same or worse? No. I wouldn’t give Pearl any credit because he destroyed what good he had done. It would be a rebuilding project.

And that’s exactly what Pearl and Tyndall did here. Barnes was faced with a dumpster fire when he arrived. He absolutely gets credit for not just rebuilding it. But taking it to consistent greatness over a lengthy period.

Same as Caldwell. As much as we all loved Coach Summitt, her two successors let the Lady Vols fall into despair. If Caldwell rebuilds back into a power? Caldwell will absolutely gets credit the credit. Not Pat.

And I haven’t heard of Bear Bryant getting credit for Saban’s dynasty, either. Or Vince Dooley getting credit for Kirby’s.

The mental gymnasiums some of you go through to elevate former Vol coaches is mind boggling.
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We were trying to move on so I will keep this short. Barnes doesn’t even end up here if not for Pearl. Like I said, he passed on us originally because we were a " football school".
This is what HE said. Pearl was the catalyst to us no longer being just a " football school".

But anyways....let's just agree to disagree.
People are getting pissed. This is a SEC Tournament thread .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is the 12th time this season that Kentucky's opponent has scored at least 80 points.
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Hoping Bama hits the century mark.
EasternVol said:
I wish Kentucky would have played like this against us this year. They're checked out.
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They didn't start out lighting it up from 3 tonight.
When they do that ( and keep it up), they gain confidence and can be hard to beat. We just got very unlucky and they shot over 50 % from 3 and the floor.
In both games. Not to mention we shot horrible from 3.
 
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Delmar said:
Absolutely astounding that all 4 teams in the semifinals tomorrow are National Championship contenders. And none of them are named Kentucky. Never thought I’d ever see that in basketball in the SEC.
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Joe Lunardi of Bracketology fame, has 14 SEC teams in the NCAA Tournament. Only LSU and South Carolina are out.
 
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