'22 SC SF Julian Phillips (Tennessee commit)

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Kas232323 said:
We have differing opinions of what an open 3 is in college.
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Apparently. If there’s a hand in your line of sight of the basket that can throw a shooter off. Especially when you’re worried about a 6’8 or 6’11 guy with great length affecting your shot.
 
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joevols89 said:
Vescovi was blanketed the whole game. And as I mentioned the ZZ open looks were in the low % corner. Chandler and JJJ missed a couple of open ones but let’s not pretend this was like the TTU game where we were wide open almost every shot and just couldn’t hit. Michigan played good perimeter defense and locked down our most important shooter.
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Good perimeter defense doesn’t cause below 25% shooting, much less 11%. If we shoot 25% from 3 we win that game. This game was worse than TT because we just needed to shoot like we did for TT to win

3 PT defense is mostly overrated and the teams that are best at it in the first half end up being one of the worst in the second half. If you get 3s off and aren’t completely blanketed /getting blocked then it’s not usually that the defense was that good, just variance wasn’t on your side.
 
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Lankykong said:
Good perimeter defense doesn’t cause below 25% shooting, much less 11%. If we shoot 25% from 3 we win that game. This game was worse than TT because we just needed to shoot like we did for TT to win

3 PT defense is mostly overrated and the teams that are best at it in the first half end up being one of the worst in the second half. If you get 3s off and aren’t completely blanketed /getting blocked then it’s not usually that the defense was that good, just variance wasn’t on your side.
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We were shooting like 5% at one point in that game on like 35+ shots AND they were mostly great looks.

You guys want to chalk it up to players just not making shots (I’m guessing in defense of Barnes as motivation more than anything), but everyone saw the Michigan game plan. Take out Vescovi and they did. Other guys have been hit and miss all season so it wasn’t shocking to see guys like JJJ and Chandler go cold from 3.

IIRC Vescovi got 1 open 3 and missed. The one he hit was really deep and contested. Was surprised he made that one.
 
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joevols89 said:
We were shooting like 5% at one point in that game on like 35+ shots AND they were mostly great looks.

You guys want to chalk it up to players just not making shots (I’m guessing in defense of Barnes as motivation more than anything), but everyone saw the Michigan game plan. Take out Vescovi and they did. Other guys have been hit and miss all season so it wasn’t shocking to see guys like JJJ and Chandler go cold from 3.

IIRC Vescovi got 1 open 3 and missed. The one he hit was really deep and contented. Was surprised he made that one.
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Lol. Sometimes it really is just that simple.
 
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joevols89 said:
Says the guy who just can’t give Howard and Michigan any credit for having a better game plan. LOL.
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Last one….they had a relative role player shoot 100% in the 2nd half and score over 20 points. We missed open 3s and made 11% and basically lost by 4….not counting the 4 FTs when the game was decided. Yea….I’ll stick with my original assessment. If we shoot a paltry 20% from 3 we win. And it wasn’t game planning that beat us. Our top 4 shooters took every 3 point shot. Vescovi did get some open looks but he was off. Yes they guarded him well for the most part.
 
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Kas232323 said:
Last one….they had a relative role player shoot 100% in the 2nd half and score over 20 points. We missed open 3s and made 11% and basically lost by 4….not counting the 4 FTs when the game was decided. Yea….I’ll stick with my original assessment. If we shoot a paltry 20% from 3 we win. And it wasn’t game planning that beat us. Our top 4 shooters took every 3 point shot. Vescovi did get some open looks but he was off. Yes they guarded him well for the most part.
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I still contend our defense beat us. Well, our lack of defense. We were given to shoot badly often enough this season and still beat teams. But outside of Kentucky at UK when they made everything, that was the highest percentage we shot all year and lost.
 
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Kas232323 said:
Last one….they had a relative role player shoot 100% in the 2nd half and score over 20 points. We missed open 3s and made 11% and basically lost by 4….not counting the 4 FTs when the game was decided. Yea….I’ll stick with my original assessment. If we shoot a paltry 20% from 3 we win. And it wasn’t game planning that beat us. Our top 4 shooters took every 3 point shot. Vescovi did get some open looks but he was off. Yes they guarded him well for the most part.
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Funny you talk about their guard going off (not a role player fyi) but you don’t mention the fact their best 3 point shooter (an actual role player) in Houstan was terrible offensively and scored 0.
 
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Lankykong said:
Good perimeter defense doesn’t cause below 25% shooting, much less 11%. If we shoot 25% from 3 we win that game. This game was worse than TT because we just needed to shoot like we did for TT to win

3 PT defense is mostly overrated and the teams that are best at it in the first half end up being one of the worst in the second half. If you get 3s off and aren’t completely blanketed /getting blocked then it’s not usually that the defense was that good, just variance wasn’t on your side.
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Three point defense can be more effective when the big are missing layups and not getting offensive rebounds. When you shoot 21% for a game, the odds are you will not win the ballgame.
 
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joevols89 said:
We were shooting like 5% at one point in that game on like 35+ shots AND they were mostly great looks.

You guys want to chalk it up to players just not making shots (I’m guessing in defense of Barnes as motivation more than anything), but everyone saw the Michigan game plan. Take out Vescovi and they did. Other guys have been hit and miss all season so it wasn’t shocking to see guys like JJJ and Chandler go cold from 3.

IIRC Vescovi got 1 open 3 and missed. The one he hit was really deep and contested. Was surprised he made that one.
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I wouldn’t say Chandler went cold from 3. He was 1-3. 33%.

On the other hand, ZZ was 0-4 (and they were open), SV was 1-5, and JJJ was 0-6. Those 3 combining to go 1-15 was the story.
 
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joevols89 said:
Funny you talk about their guard going off (not a role player fyi) but you don’t mention the fact their best 3 point shooter (an actual role player) in Houstan was terrible offensively and scored 0.
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Must have been our defense 😉

This is a seriously stupid argument and WAY off topic
 
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patrick said:
and back to Julian Phillips... please
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I may be wrong but I think Auburn is going harder after LSU decommit 6'8" SF Devin Ree per ON3. Looks like he will choose between Auburn and Louisville. Maybe Auburn has moved on from Phillips. Ree is supposed to be one of the most elite shooters in the 2022 class and Auburn struggled from 3 last season. They are also looking for a Center to replace Kessler as Trahore will slide in Smith's position per ON3. I think we may actually have a realistic chance of getting Julian Phillips.
 
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VOL720 said:
I may be wrong but I think Auburn is going harder after LSU decommit 6'8" SF Devin Ree per ON3. Looks like he will choose between Auburn and Louisville. Maybe Auburn has moved on from Phillips. Ree is supposed to be one of the most elite shooters in the 2022 class and Auburn struggled from 3 last season. They are also looking for a Center to replace Kessler as Trahore will slide in Smith's position per ON3. I think we may actually have a realistic chance of getting Julian Phillips.
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Tennessee apparently feels really good about their chances and the hope is that he makes a decision this week. The sooner he does, the better our chances. The longer it goes, the more he is looking for a reason to go elsewhere.
 
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