25th Amendment concept 'alive every day' at White House

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Grand Vol said:
Some people are better at baiting than others.

Some are masters at it.
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The problem with your position is that it isn't as though the author's observation about his temperament and stability are coming out of nowhere. His obsession with being complimented, his fixation on beating up anyone who dares criticize him, and his propensity to lose his temper and scream at people are all well documented. That part of this is nothing new.

What is new about it is that our hope for him to calm down and grow into the position has met with no improvement. I hoped that once he got in there and was briefed on things by generals and others who knew what they were doing, or by administrative professionals who would explain to him the complexity of what he wanted to do, would cause him to slow down a bit and make it less about himself, and more about policy.

The opposite has been true. When he is told that the facts are against him, he denies the facts and shoots the messenger. When he is criticized, he shows zero introspection.

He isn't learning anything because he doesn't want to. He simply rejects as untrue anything contrary to his view of things. That is a very dangerous character flaw in him.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The problem with your position is that it isn't as though the author's observation about his temperament and stability are coming out of nowhere. His obsession with being complimented, his fixation on beating up anyone who dares criticize him, and his propensity to lose his temper and scream at people are all well documented. That part of this is nothing new.

What is new about it is that our hope for him to calm down and grow into the position has met with no improvement. I hoped that once he got in there and was briefed on things by generals and others who knew what they were doing, or by administrative professionals who would explain to him the complexity of what he wanted to do, would cause him to slow down a bit and make it less about himself, and more about policy.

The opposite has been true. When he is told that the facts are against him, he denies the facts and shoots the messenger. When he is criticized, he shows zero introspection.

He isn't learning anything because he doesn't want to. He simply rejects as untrue anything contrary to his view of things. That is a very dangerous character flaw in him.
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My problem, again, is that the author himself admits he cannot and will not specify which parts are true or not.

Hence, everything in the book is suspect.
 
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Grand Vol said:
My problem, again, is that the author himself admits he cannot and will not specify which parts are true or not.

Hence, everything in the book is suspect.
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Your intentional mischaracterization of what he said is maddeningly stupid.

He is simply reporting what others said. His own observations are a tiny part of it. He says he cannot vouch for what the others said as he is simply relaying what they told him.

The most startling of those was Bannon. His weaksauce "regret" notwithstanding, he has not denied a single quote attributed to him.

If you want to believe that all of those WH workers, people supposedly loyal to Trump, all outright lied to the author many many times, have at it. But please quit twisting what he said into some sort of confession that parts of the book are untrue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your intentional mischaracterization of what he said is maddeningly stupid.

He is simply reporting what others said. His own observations are a tiny part of it. He says he cannot vouch for what the others said as he is simply relaying what they told him.

The most startling of those was Bannon. His weaksauce "regret" notwithstanding, he has not denied a single quote attributed to him.

If you want to believe that all of those WH workers, people supposedly loyal to Trump, all outright lied to the author many many times, have at it. But please quit twisting what he said into some sort of confession that parts of the book are untrue.
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I'm not twisting anything. The author himself said "portions of this are lies and I'll leave it up to the reader to determine which parts are."

Kinda hard to twist that, good buddy.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your intentional mischaracterization of what he said is maddeningly stupid.

He is simply reporting what others said. His own observations are a tiny part of it. He says he cannot vouch for what the others said as he is simply relaying what they told him.

The most startling of those was Bannon. His weaksauce "regret" notwithstanding, he has not denied a single quote attributed to him.

If you want to believe that all of those WH workers, people supposedly loyal to Trump, all outright lied to the author many many times, have at it. But please quit twisting what he said into some sort of confession that parts of the book are untrue.
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The authors comments force you to ask yourself, is he lying or his sources? Pretty easy for him to clear that up.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not twisting anything. The author himself said "portions of this are lies and I'll leave it up to the reader to determine which parts are."

Kinda hard to twist that, good buddy.
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Yes you are. He says he is quoting people and does not know if what they said was true.

You are twisting that to be him saying that parts of it are definitely untrue, and so all of it is to be rejected.

Bannon said the meeting was treasonous. He has not denied saying that. He says he wished he hadn't said it. But he did say it. He also said he finds it hard to believe that Trump himself, just a little upstairs at the time, wasn't introduced to these people who were going to help him (remember his promise of dirt coming on HRC).

"If its what you say it is, I love it, especially this summer."

And then we have Trump forcing people to issue false statements that the meeting was about adoption.

Those things are all on paper and documented. The grand jury is going to subpoena Trump and he will be forced to go under oath and explain why he fired Comey and why he demands loyalty on the Russia investigation and why he fabricated a story about adoption.

And he will lie. They are gathering the information and evidence and they setting him up for it. Even with a giant trap set right in front of him, which he can easily avoid by just telling the truth, he won't. He will fall right in. He can't help himself.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes you are. He says he is quoting people and does not know if what they said was true.

You are twisting that to be him saying that parts of it are definitely untrue, and so all of it is to be rejected.

Bannon said the meeting was treasonous. He has not denied saying that. He says he wished he hadn't said it. But he did say it. He also said he finds it hard to believe that Trump himself, just a little upstairs at the time, wasn't introduced to these people who were going to help him (remember his promise of dirt coming on HRC).

"If its what you say it is, I love it, especially this summer."

And then we have Trump forcing people to issue false statements that the meeting was about adoption.

Those things are all on paper and documented. The grand jury is going to subpoena Trump and he will be forced to go under oath and explain why he fired Comey and why he demands loyalty on the Russia investigation and why he fabricated a story about adoption.

And he will lie. They are gathering the information and evidence and they setting him up for it. Even with a giant trap set right in front of him, which he can easily avoid by just telling the truth, he won't. He will fall right in. He can't help himself.
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All I see in your post:

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As I stated before, you and others are so desperate for this to be real you never even stopped to think it might not be. You're so thirsty for information, you'll drink the sand.

I am sorry, but big posts like the above is not going to help anything except make your fingers tired of typing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes you are. He says he is quoting people and does not know if what they said was true.

You are twisting that to be him saying that parts of it are definitely untrue, and so all of it is to be rejected.

Bannon said the meeting was treasonous. He has not denied saying that. He says he wished he hadn't said it. But he did say it. He also said he finds it hard to believe that Trump himself, just a little upstairs at the time, wasn't introduced to these people who were going to help him (remember his promise of dirt coming on HRC).

"If its what you say it is, I love it, especially this summer."

And then we have Trump forcing people to issue false statements that the meeting was about adoption.

Those things are all on paper and documented. The grand jury is going to subpoena Trump and he will be forced to go under oath and explain why he fired Comey and why he demands loyalty on the Russia investigation and why he fabricated a story about adoption.

And he will lie. They are gathering the information and evidence and they setting him up for it. Even with a giant trap set right in front of him, which he can easily avoid by just telling the truth, he won't. He will fall right in. He can't help himself.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen.

And even if he did appear in front of a GJ he could simply answer, I fired him for incompetence and because I'm President and I can.
 
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hog88 said:
Yeah, that's not going to happen.

And even if he did appear in front of a GJ he could simply answer, I fired him for incompetence and because I'm President and I can.
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And he'll be confronted by his half-dozen statements since then saying the reason he fired him was that he wasn't loyal and was going forward on the Russian investigation.
 
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lawgator1 said:
And he'll be confronted by his half-dozen statements since then saying the reason he fired him was that he wasn't loyal and was going forward on the Russian investigation.
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Please post those 6 statements.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm thinking less about an actual physical or medical cause to dementia, and more that he has a longstanding mental health condition that renders him borderline paranoid schizo or a whisker away from some form of psychosis.
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I don't think you're in a position to be judging anyone's mental stability. I've been reading your posts over the last year. Let's just say you're not exactly the poster child for mental stability.
 
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Trump could defecate on an American flag and set it afire on live television, and his supporters would defend him.

It would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Blind loyalty always turns out so well in history.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Trump could defecate on an American flag and set it afire on live television, and his supporters would defend him.

It would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Blind loyalty always turns out so well in history.
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Of course. I thought that was one of his campaign platforms.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Trump could defecate on an American flag and set it on fire on live television, and his supporters would defend him.

It would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Blind loyalty always turns out so well in history.
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We would just assume that his dementia was getting slightly worse. No big deal.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Trump could defecate on an American flag and set it afire on live television, and his supporters would defend him.

It would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. Blind loyalty always turns out so well in history.
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I think a lot of them just react to the craziness from his most vocal critics. He isn't as great as the supporters think, nor as evil as his critics think.
 
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