3rd QB being recruited

#51
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DaddyChad said:
Wouldn't taking the three best prospects at QB make more sense than just limiting yourself to a Juco solution?
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Not when taking 3 HS guys in 1 class just sets you up to lose them to transfer. How does that benefit you long term? 2 or 3 bail so then you can replace those guys with 2-3 more next class? IMO all that sets you up for is a lot of losing. These kids pay attention. They know darn well that being part of a 3 QB class is just not normal. Do I go to a school who is recruiting a QB, or do I go to a school that is trying to sign 3 this year, has 1 committed for next year already and just extended another offer to an instate QB for next year. As a recruit, I would be paying attention.
 
#52
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Not when taking 3 HS guys in 1 class just sets you up to lose them to transfer. How does that benefit you long term? 2 or 3 bail so then you can replace those guys with 2-3 more next class? IMO all that sets you up for is a lot of losing. These kids pay attention. They know darn well that being part of a 3 QB class is just not normal. Do I go to a school who is recruiting a QB, or do I go to a school that is trying to sign 3 this year, has 1 committed for next year already and just extended another offer to an instate QB for next year. As a recruit, I would be paying attention.
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What is normal about the situation that UT finds itself in? Again I would definitely be upfront and honest about the situation if I were Jones BUT if I believed taking three QBs is in the best interest of the team then that is what I would do.

I doubt Jones is trying to do anything shady if so why not just push like crazy after Dormady and Jennings are already enrolled? That is of course JMO.
 
#53
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LebanonVolunteer said:
It was actually posted yesterday on here that Henderson's grade situation was put in play so UT could sign another DE this year. I didn't say it, but was posted in a thread yesterday

IMO it was one of those "sprinkle a little sunshine on it" moments.
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I remember a Leb that laughed at crazy talk. :cray:
 
#54
#54
why isn't this thread merged with the crap already in the Sherion Jones thread? Its a carbon copy.
 
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I'll always believe that when CPF signed BOTH Manning and Stewart, that his ultimate plan was to redshirt both whilst letting Colquitt shine and Helton backup...maybe the next season starts with Helton starting and if that doesn't pan out you let the two redshirts audition until the better one emerges... maybe that isn't so concrete and it carries over until the next fall? Whoever loses out then is faced with transferring to another I-A program and playing in two years or a lesser I-AA program to play immediately. Not evil mallevichian stuff but subtly engineered where the player passed over has to consciously leave a comfortable situation of his own volition. Would that have been shady in an alternate universe? Of course we know what actually happened and we're lucky that Peyton was so durable because for two seasons he essentially didn't have a backup.

We've struggled for so long to land just ONE quality signalcaller, that we've forgotten what it's like in big boy football when multiple options present themselves. Every year it seems that Bama has a 4 or 5 star QB bail and they're still holding camps for ONE QB to get an offer. They end up with a 3 star who waited for four years and weathered a competition with a preferred FSU QB transfer to lead his team into the playoffs. Wonder if any "promises" were broken with him in that journey? :question:
 
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#56
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Yes, every team has transfers. You don't see a lot of kids bailing after just 1 year though. Those schools who over sign positions(3RBs, 3QBs, 4-5 DEs), usually tend to have a lot more transfers. Yeah, let's sign all these guys and they will just sit and wait their turn or after 2 years we will just drop them to make room for the next unknown signee. Looks like those recruits may not be willing to wait around to be dropped. They may just decide to speed up that process.

UT signs 3-4 RBs this year. Write it down, they will be looking elsewhere very quickly. When you have (2) 5* caliber RBs, those 3-4* guys are not just going to HOPE there is an injury that allows them to play at some point. It's just common sense. Sometimes in recruiting fans don't have any.
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You cannot sign one rb a year when you have zero sec caliber rbs like we had this past year. Are you kidding me? So you would have been ok if we had signed Hurd, then just rolled with it. So if Hurd was hurt, you would be complaining that we should have signed at least three because we don't have one on the roster.
Technically we only have two on the roster because one got the boot because he used his girl as a punching bag. Prolly from being frustrated that we signed three rbs, right? So how can the other get upset when he would come in the spring as our legit and only number two? Sometimes in recruiting, fans don't have common sense.
 
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#57
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butchna said:
I'll always believe that when CPF signed BOTH Manning and Stewart, that his ultimate plan was to redshirt both whilst letting Colquitt shine and Helton backup...maybe the next season starts with Helton starting and if that doesn't pan out you let the two redshirts audition until the better one emerges... maybe that isn't so concrete and it carries over until the next fall? Whoever loses out then is faced with transferring to another I-A program and playing in two years or a lesser I-AA program to play immediately. Not evil mallevichian stuff but subtly engineered where the player passed over has to consciously leave a comfortable situation of his own volition. Would that have been shady in an alternate universe? Of course we know what actually happened and we're lucky that Peyton was so durable because for two seasons he essentially didn't have a backup.

We've struggled for so long to land just ONE quality signalcaller, that we've forgotten what it's like in big boy football when multiple options present themselves. Every year it seems that Bama has a 4 or 5 star QB bail and they're still holding camps for ONE QB to get an offer. They end up with a 3 star who waited for four years and weathered a competition with a preferred FSU QB transfer to lead his team into the playoffs. Wonder if any "promises" were broken with him in that journey? :question:
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:good!:
 
#58
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smokey0625 said:
You cannot sign one rb a year when you have zero sec caliber rbs like we had this past year. Are you kidding me? So you would have been ok if we had signed Hurd, then just rolled with it. So if Hurd was hurt, you would be complaining that we should have signed at least three because we don't have one on the roster.
Technically we only have two on the roster because one got the boot because he used his girl as a punching bag. Prolly from being frustrated that we signed three rbs, right? So how can the other get upset when he would come in the spring as our legit and only number two? Sometimes in recruiting, fans don't have common sense.
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I've said multiple times signing 2 RBs in a class is reasonable. It's a common thing around the college recruiting landscape. 3-4? No, not so much. When you land the caliber of RB like a Hurd or a Kamara, IMO you are signing day 1 starters or #2 guys at the very least. Why did UGA have a 2* RB getting all those carries this year? Because having 4-5* caliber RBs 5-6 deep on a roster is just not a common thing. You may sign them, but a lot of them won't be there long and you're back scrambling to restock again. Serviceable RBs are not a bad thing. They are there in case of an emergency. Those thinking UT will have a RB roster of 4-5 guys who all have "proven" SEC carries and work in is just not reality.
 
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typing, some stuff, that really, disagrees, with what leb says...........
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I've said multiple times signing 2 RBs in a class is reasonable. It's a common thing around the college recruiting landscape. 3-4? No, not so much. When you land the caliber of RB like a Hurd or a Kamara, IMO you are signing day 1 starters or #2 guys at the very least. Why did UGA have a 2* RB getting all those carries this year? Because having 4-5* caliber RBs 5-6 deep on a roster is just not a common thing. You may sign them, but a lot of them won't be there long and you're back scrambling to restock again. Serviceable RBs are not a bad thing. They are there in case of an emergency. Those thinking UT will have a RB roster of 4-5 guys who all have "proven" SEC carries and work in is just not reality.
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Rivals shows them as having signed (1) 5* RB since about 2009.
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What 2* are you talking about? Didn't watch that much UGA this year, but it looked like Gurley/Chubb got the lion share of carries this year.

Crowell was a 5* in 2012, Michel was a 5* last year. Gurley, Marshall, and Chubb were all 6.0 4*'s (as close to 5* as you can get).
 
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#63
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I don't get upset. Sure, I may disagree with the thinking or mindset of taking so many in a class. When they decide to transfer out for whatever reason, all I can do is shrug and say to myself, "knew that was going to happen". Then I say let's see if they learned anything next time around.
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Say to yourself? Seriously? :birgits_giggle:
 
#65
#65
who is this 3rd QB? Jones? Does he have a thread? Yes? Then why does this exist? I swear I'm gonna create a 3rd RB being recruited thread if this keeps going. I mean it. Im gonna.
 
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#66
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bignewt said:
who is this 3rd QB? Jones? Does he have a thread? Yes? Then why does this exist? I swear I'm gonna create a 3rd RB being recruited thread if this keeps going. I mean it. Im gonna.
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Lol
 
#68
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bignewt said:
who is this 3rd QB? Jones? Does he have a thread? Yes? Then why does this exist? I swear I'm gonna create a 3rd RB being recruited thread if this keeps going. I mean it. Im gonna.
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LebVol will take it over.
 
#71
#71
I am in favor of taking our two committees this year and getting two more studs in 2016, one who has already committed.
 
#72
#72
TN_Vol_Fo_Life said:
Part of being a great college coach is convincing talent to wait their turn.
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I agree with that. In some cases it makes sense. In others it does not. It really comes down to each situation and how it looks from an unbiased viewpoint. Of course fans of a school always think their situation is best. That is until it's time to "make some room" and those guys who chose to "wait their turn" are now on the chopping block.
 
#73
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VOLINVONORE said:
I am in favor of taking our two committees this year and getting two more studs in 2016, one who has already committed.
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That would make the most sense to me. IMO only reason to add the 2nd guy in 2016 is IF NP decided to transfer. Otherwise, I'd take the (2) in 2015 and the (1) in 2016. My focus would then be on Hunter Johnson for 2017.
 
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