5 Best Hitters in Baseball

#26
#26
volfanbill said:
yeah, i wouldn't want a guy currently hitting .368 and a career .333 hitter who hasn't made an error all season leading off for my team either.
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the question wasn't about a lineup or fielding. It asked for an opinion regarding the best 5 hitters, with no mention of criteria. I would assume that people answered with hitting in mind, as I did. Ichiro strikes little fear in opposing teams while at the plate. He is a pesky player, great leadoff man, but IMO a great hitter needs the ability to hit it any which way. Ichiro can't do that consistently.

If we're talking lineups (which will be tough with only 5 available, especially at the pitching spot), I take Ichiro as my leadoff.
 
#27
#27
BigPapaVol said:
the question wasn't about a lineup or fielding. It asked for an opinion regarding the best 5 hitters, with no mention of criteria. I would assume that people answered with hitting in mind, as I did. Ichiro strikes little fear in opposing teams while at the plate. He is a pesky player, great leadoff man, but IMO a great hitter needs the ability to hit it any which way. Ichiro can't do that consistently.

If we're talking lineups (which will be tough with only 5 available, especially at the pitching spot), I take Ichiro as my leadoff.
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that's wrong on so many levels, and i don't have the time to even begin. watch some west coast games and let go of your east coast bias
 
#28
#28
hatvol96 said:
There are a whole bunch of players who wish they were "sliding" so badly that they were reaching base about 50% of the time they go to the plate.
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there are also a lot of players who do not get the amount of rest that bonds is given. I wonder what his numbers would be if he played LF everyday?
 
#29
#29
hatvol96 said:
Yes. Manny is slowly, but unmistakably declining. I'm also not as enthralled with Ortiz as the rest of the world seems to be. Justin Morneau is as good as either of those guys.
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Woohooo.. showin' some love to my Canadian boy! :)
 
#30
#30
I understand what you are saying, but he's on pace for 400 ABs and he walks more than anybody . . . not exactly napping his way through the season.
 
#31
#31
GAVol said:
I understand what you are saying, but he's on pace for 400 ABs and he walks more than anybody . . . not exactly napping his way through the season.
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if he stays healthy, which is starting to become a big question. for comparison, maggs is on pace for 600 ABs this season, suzuki could reach 700 ABs.
 
#32
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volfanbill said:
that's wrong on so many levels, and i don't have the time to even begin. watch some west coast games and let go of your east coast bias
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regardless of your non-response, if I picking the best hitters, I'm taking those who hit for power, average, drive in runs etc. I don't want Rod Carew mold slap hitters (he was west coast for a while too, maybe that's why he wouldn't make my list). I even thought ARod was the best player in the game when he was.......a Mariner.
 
#33
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BigPapaVol said:
regardless of your non-response, if I picking the best hitters, I'm taking those who hit for power, average, drive in runs etc. I don't want Rod Carew mold slap hitters (he was west coast for a while too, maybe that's why he wouldn't make my list). I even thought ARod was the best player in the game when he was.......a Mariner.
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shhh! he does not have to begin to tell you how you are wrong, he has to continue making other posts.
 
#34
#34
BigPapaVol said:
regardless of your non-response, if I picking the best hitters, I'm taking those who hit for power, average, drive in runs etc. I don't want Rod Carew mold slap hitters (he was west coast for a while too, maybe that's why he wouldn't make my list). I even thought ARod was the best player in the game when he was.......a Mariner.
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alright i'll go. He's first in AL in batting, has 58 runs, and an OBP of .422. what more do you want out of a hitter? so he only has 5 jacks, big deal. it's not all about homeruns.

edit: he also has about 40 rbi. pretty dang good for a leadoff hitter.
 
#35
#35
volfanbill said:
if he stays healthy, which is starting to become a big question. for comparison, maggs is on pace for 600 ABs this season, suzuki could reach 700 ABs.
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Bonds probably will break down . . . but he's on pace for about 570 plate which isn't bad.
 
#36
#36
GAVol said:
Bonds probably will break down . . . but he's on pace for about 570 plate appearances which isn't bad.
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ok, i never said it was bad. I'm just saying right now I don't consider him one of the five best in the game RIGHT NOW. would you?

the guy is a first ballot hall of famer regardless of the steroid allegations and one of, if not the best player of my generation (injuries to jr. making it easier). But i wouldn't sign him now.
 
#37
#37
volfanbill said:
ok, i never said it was bad. I'm just saying right now I don't consider him one of the five best in the game RIGHT NOW. would you?

the guy is a first ballot hall of famer regardless of the steroid allegations and one of, if not the best player of my generation (injuries to jr. making it easier). But i wouldn't sign him now.
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I can't disagree with that at all.
 
#38
#38
volfanbill said:
there are also a lot of players who do not get the amount of rest that bonds is given. I wonder what his numbers would be if he played LF everyday?
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Imagine what his numbers would be if he was like Ortiz and never had to to play the field.
 
#39
#39
As far as guys who hit the quality pitchers well, Gary Sheffield is as good as anyone.
 
#43
#43
I wonder how we'd view Ichiro if he had gotten to MLB about 5 years sooner? His numbers would be gaudy.
 
#44
#44
GAVol said:
I wonder how we'd view Ichiro if he had gotten to MLB about 5 years sooner? His numbers would be gaudy.
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I'd still view him the same way I look at Carew and Gwynn. Slap hitters who get a whole lot of meaningless singles. It's not a coincidence that those three have combined for exactly 0 World Series rings.
 
#46
#46
hatvol96 said:
I'd still view him the same way I look at Carew and Gwynn. Slap hitters who get a whole lot of meaningless singles. It's not a coincidence that those three have combined for exactly 0 World Series rings.
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Same thing for Bonds.
 
#48
#48
JZVOL said:
Same thing for Bonds.
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Who would have one but for Dusty Baker idiotically removing Russ Ortiz from Game Six of the 2002 World Series. Ichiro and Carew have never seen a World Series and the Padres were a combined 1-8 in the two Series Gwynn played in for them.
 
#49
#49
World Series titles are a tough way to gauge a hitter's career since baseball is such a team game. Any stat where Ted Williams has a zero is not a valid stat for measuring a hitter.
 
#50
#50
GAVol said:
World Series titles are a tough way to gauge a hitter's career since baseball is such a team game. Any stat where Ted Williams has a zero is not a valid stat for measuring a hitter.
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I'm talking more about value to one's team more than individual excellence. Williams also had a pretty good excuse. The Yankees were pretty good during his career. The Indians also put some fair teams on the field in that era. The Cardinal team the Sox lost to in '46 had a few notable players on their roster.
 
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