5 UK players entering the draft.

#51
#51
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Coming in and taking over an NIT roster, with one player worth a damn, then being able to bring in the class of the century all within 3 months, start 3 freshman and a sophmore, lose only 3 games in a season while making the elite 8 in his first season......

is certainly not AVERAGE.

Everything that he has done this season is almost unprecedented. Name another coach who could have done everything he has this year. I'm not just talking X's and O's. I'm saying show me someone else who could pull that off. Go ahead. I'm DYING to hear something idiotic before I have to leave for a bit.
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You can say all you want about recruiting. But there is more to it then recruiting, and you know that. The fact is he did nothing with the "class of the century." If you recruit the "class of the century" and don't do anything with it, what the hell does it matter?

Yes, obviously his recruiting class was far above average, as you said it probably was the class of the century.

On the court though, I'm sure you had higher expectations for this team, and you should have. I think it's pretty obvious that making the E8 and getting bounced by a weak WVU team that duke trounced in the next round, fell short of yours and most UK fans expectations.
 
#52
#52
615 Vol said:
I think Izzo, Williams, Self, Boeheim, Huggins and coach K. could pull it off if they became the new coach of Kentucky and had WWW by their side. I think kids like to be part of "something new" and once Cal has been at UK for awhile and once the new car smell wears off than I think it will become harder to get every kid he wants. For example, If Tom Izzo became the new coach of North Carolina tomorrow, that would be the "fresh" story and recruits would be attracted to that.
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Exactly. Now how many of those coaches would you consider average? If Izzo, Self or Williams took the UK job and lost in the elite 8 with this class, would someone be stupid enough to label them as average?

My point is that peoples hatred of a rival skews their ability to reason logically. There was nothing average about this season.
 
#53
#53
So making the Elite 8 is with that roster is ABOVE AVERAGE? :eek:lol:

How do we classify what Butler, Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke, West Virginia, Kansas St, and Baylor did?
 
#54
#54
If you think the job Calapari did this year was ABOVE average, you must think the job CBP did was about the best coaching job in the history of college athletics.
 
#55
#55
SaintBruce said:
You can say all you want about recruiting. But there is more to it then recruiting, and you know that. The fact is he did nothing with the "class of the century." If you recruit the "class of the century" and don't do anything with it, what the hell does it matter?

Yes, obviously his recruiting class was far above average, as you said it probably was the class of the century.

On the court though, I'm sure you had higher expectations for this team, and you should have. I think it's pretty obvious that making the E8 and getting bounced by a weak WVU team that duke trounced in the next round, fell short of yours and most UK fans expectations.
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Expectations and dreams are two different things. When Cal was hired, nobody said "CHAMPIONSHIP". Even when the whole class was signed, nobody started screaming "its in the bag." Expectations around the state were that with all those freshmen, and the first season of the DDM, we would compete for the SEC, lose 6-8 games and make the tourney. Although ALL fans wanted that championship, it certainly was not expected.


Furthermore, you don't win games on paper. Having the most talented team doesn't mean you automatically win.

Self lost with what most considered the most complete team in recent years. I guess he is average, lets fire him.

Boehiem was the coach of the year with a #1 seed. Well, he lost... so he is average.

Roy Williams brought in a top 5 class last year just like UK did, they didn't make the tourney. Ole Roy is just too damn average. Hit the road.


Quit holding other teams to a standard that you wouldn't accept for your own.
 
#56
#56
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Coming in and taking over an NIT roster, with one player worth a damn, then being able to bring in the class of the century all within 3 months, start 3 freshman and a sophmore, lose only 3 games in a season while making the elite 8 in his first season......

is certainly not AVERAGE.

Everything that he has done this season is almost unprecedented. Name another coach who could have done everything he has this year. I'm not just talking X's and O's. I'm saying show me someone else who could pull that off. Go ahead. I'm DYING to hear something idiotic before I have to leave for a bit.
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But that doesn't fit some people's philosophy around here.
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#57
#57
SaintBruce said:
If you think the job Calapari did this year was ABOVE average, you must think the job CBP did was about the best coaching job in the history of college athletics.
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Calipari took a team with 3 freshman starters and went to the Elite 8. That's above average. What BP did was what I would consider one of the best coaching jobs in a season in UT basketball history
 
#58
#58
SaintBruce said:
If you think the job Calapari did this year was ABOVE average, you must think the job CBP did was about the best coaching job in the history of college athletics.
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There was a reason I called you out a few weeks ago and swore to never enter into conversation with you, and I should have stuck to it. Everyone here knows the uselessness of your thought, and it will have to remain at that. I would expand upon that, but I will save you the time of having to write a letter to the Mods.

Good day. I have other things to do.
 
#59
#59
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Expectations and dreams are two different things. When Cal was hired, nobody said "CHAMPIONSHIP"
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Not sure what last years expectations have to do with anything.
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Self .... I guess he is average, lets fire him.

Boehiem was the coach of the year with a #1 seed. Well, he lost... so he is average.

Ole Roy is just too damn average. Hit the road.
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Yes, all of these coaches had average years, I think if you asked them yourself they would tell you the same thing.

That doesn't make them an average coach and doesn't mean they should be fired. You are putting words in my mouth, but I wouldnt expect anything more from you. I have never once said Calapari is an average coach or should be fired. You can quit with your melodramatic temper tantrum.

Hardwood_fanatic said:
Quit holding other teams to a standard that you wouldn't accept for your own.
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If Bruce ever had 5 first round picks on the roster, especially the caliber of Cousins and Wall you better believe I would expect the FF and nothing less. Again, don't put words in my mouth.
 
#61
#61
For the record, I saw plenty of UK fans who said at various times this season that the championship was in the bag.
 
#64
#64
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Exactly. Now how many of those coaches would you consider average? If Izzo, Self or Williams took the UK job and lost in the elite 8 with this class, would someone be stupid enough to label them as average?

My point is that peoples hatred of a rival skews their ability to reason logically. There was nothing average about this season.
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I agree with you, Calipari is a good coach for sure.
 
#65
#65
SaintBruce said:
If you think the job Calapari did this year was ABOVE average, you must think the job CBP did was about the best coaching job in the history of college athletics.
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If Kentucky hired Bruce Pearl this year, there is no way in hell that they would have gone 35-3. He would take Gillispie's NIT roster, win 20ish games, and be out of the tourney by the Sweet Sixteen. Regardless of who's the better gameday coach, which scenario do you think Kentucky fans would rather have?
 
#66
#66
lylsmorr said:
Surely you weren't surprised...
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No, I was just stating that because Hardwood fanatic sometimes doesn't realize what the lunatic wing of his fan base is doing. Probably because it would be obnoxious to listen to them. Kind of like how it is obnoxious for me to listen to people complain about how bad Kiffin was, just because they are butt-hurt that he left.
 
#67
#67
VKAman said:
If Kentucky hired Bruce Pearl this year, there is no way in hell that they would have gone 35-3. He would take Gillispie's NIT roster, win 20ish games, and be out of the tourney by the Sweet Sixteen. Regardless of who's the better gameday coach, which scenario do you think Kentucky fans would rather have?
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It's not like Calaparis first year helped build anything. All the players are gone. In your hypothetical, maybe Bruce Pearl gets to the Sweet Sixteen but also recruits players that would be there this year, and actually you know, start building the program and get further in the tourney next year, etc.

Now most Kentucky fans are writing next season off too. So they got one Elite 8 when they should have been in the Final Four, at the very least. Which was a letdown, the team underachieved.

And he killed next season too.

So it's hard to say when dealing in hypothetical fantasy land. Either way Kentucky had an average season.
 
#68
#68
It remains to be seen what happens next year. I won't surprised if they make a sweet 16.
 
#69
#69
IPorange said:
No, I was just stating that because Hardwood fanatic sometimes doesn't realize what the lunatic wing of his fan base is doing. Probably because it would be obnoxious to listen to them. Kind of like how it is obnoxious for me to listen to people complain about how bad Kiffin was, just because they are butt-hurt that he left.
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Yeah, I hear ya. I'm aware of their idiocy, I just choose to ignore it as much as possible. When I acknowledge it, it causes my eye to twitch.
 
#70
#70
Cal can't continue to build a program at an institution like Kentucky with one and done players. If he doesn't realize that, he won't be there long.
 
#71
#71
IPorange said:
No, I was just stating that because Hardwood fanatic sometimes doesn't realize what the lunatic wing of his fan base is doing. Probably because it would be obnoxious to listen to them. Kind of like how it is obnoxious for me to listen to people complain about how bad Kiffin was, just because they are butt-hurt that he left.
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Kiffin may have been a doucher, but he was going to do big things here
 
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