#6 in Coaches Poll/#8 in AP

[deatojl]

Agree...8 about right for me. With this team you really don't know what you're going to get. Lack of depth this time of year can show its head too.

This same point could be made for pretty much every other team in the country except maybe Duke and Houston right now and neither of them are facing the type of schedule that the SEC teams have been.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

AP isn't really a big part of seeding...

We're 5th still in NET ranking & KenPom.

In NET ranking:
Bama is 6th
St. John's is 17th
Michigan State is 11th

Of course something hilarious, Duke is now #1 in NET ranking, AP and KenPom.


I do find it really odd that despite having more wins and owning the head to head Bama in the AP eyes is ahead of us...they went 1-2 to end the year compared to our 2-1.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

To be fair, though, neither Louisville nor Illinois were ranked at the time Duke beat them and Arizona in no longer ranked now, at least not in the AP.

So which are we going by, then or now?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Inaccurate? Yes. Wildly? Absolutely not.

Isn’t the number of ranked teams they’ve beaten “3”? It’s not that wild when you compare the number of ranked victories by The top 10 ranked SEC programs is twice as many.

Auburn, Illinois, and Louisville. (I missed that Illinois moved in while Arizona dropped out).

Losses to Clemson, Kansas (unranked), and Kentucky. None of which are top 10 teams.

I mean, that’s pretty off base relatively speaking lol

 

[Good2bavol]

We ALL know it, but we do not know the reason why, sports writers hate Tennessee.

TN baseball is undefeated and the ESPN article calls us "other SEC teams". We are the raining NCAA World Series Champions for the love of GOD!

 

[deatojl]

So which are we going by, then or now?

I tend to go by end of year rankings myself. I know on broadcasts they tend to use time of the game rankings. On the ESPN site, it shows ranking at the time of the game when looking at a teams' schedule. Going by that metric, Tennessee has 8 ranked wins this season. Going by current rankings, it would be 6.

 

[VolCalls]

AP isn't really a big part of seeding...

We're 5th still in NET ranking & KenPom.

In NET ranking:
Bama is 6th
St. John's is 17th
Michigan State is 11th

Of course something hilarious, Duke is now #1 in NET ranking, AP and KenPom.


I do find it really odd that despite having more wins and owning the head to head Bama in the AP eyes is ahead of us...they went 1-2 to end the year compared to our 2-1.

Number of wins are not a factor in college basketball. If that were the case Drake would be #1 in the country right now. It’s all about who you played and who you beat, and Alabama’s win at Auburn is one of the two best wins in the country this year, Florida’s win at Auburn being the other. And the fact that it happened two days ago lends itself to how the writers vote.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Those final rankings are fine. How many spots did we move up from preseason rankings? Far more than most everyone else in the top 8

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Those final rankings are fine. How many spots did we move up from preseason rankings? Far more than most everyone else in the top 8

Pre-season: #12
11/11 and 11/18 at #11
11/25 at #7
12/2 at #3
Five weeks as #1
1/13 and 1/20 at #6
#8
#4
#5
#6
#5
#4
3/10: #8

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Pre-season: #12
11/11 and 11/18 at #11
11/25 at #7
12/2 at #3
Five weeks as #1
1/13 and 1/20 at #6
#8
#4
#5
#6
#5
#4
3/10: #8

Thanks for the rundown. Did anyone else jump more spots into the top ten, other than St. Johns

 

[CAVPUT]

We aren't dropping to a #3 seed.

For the record...

Let me give you even more material. We've come back to the pack with our play of late. The committee values how you're playing as we near the tournament. There are a handful of teams that might be a threat for a 2 seed that could bump us down a rung if we lay an egg in the SECT. Michigan State, Bama, Texas Tech, Saint Johns and aTm all are nipping at our heels. Before Ole Miss I was of the opinion that the SECT meant nothing and didn't matter. With the results of this past week, I'm of the opinion that it does matter where UT is concerned. We'd better show out in the SECT or we might just get jobbed by the committee....again.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

For the record...

Wanna bet we aren’t a 3?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Pre-season:
1) Kansas
2) Bama
3) UConn
4) Houston
5) Iowa State
6) Gonzaga
7) Duke
8) Baylor
9) UNC
10) Arizona
11) Auburn
12) Tennessee
13) Texas A&M
14) Purdue
15) Creighton
16) Arkansas
17) Indiana
18) Marquette
19) Texas
20) Cincinnati
21) Florida
22) UCLA
23) Kentucky
24) Ole Miss
25) Rutgers
50) St John’s

 

[omghulkhands]

The AP poll is stupid.

You can make a good argument for Michigan State over us.

You can make a meh argument for Bama.

But St. John’s is absurd to me

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Pre-season:
1) Kansas
2) Bama
3) UConn
4) Houston
5) Iowa State
6) Gonzaga
7) Duke
8) Baylor
9) UNC
10) Arizona
11) Auburn
12) Tennessee
13) Texas A&M
14) Purdue
15) Creighton
16) Arkansas
17) Indiana
18) Marquette
19) Texas
20) Cincinnati
21) Florida
22) UCLA
23) Kentucky
24) Ole Miss
25) Rutgers
50) St John’s

Self has had loaded teams. I think he's way overrated because of his NCs. A lot of recency bias in that poll. Only Bama, Duke and Houston held their prediction.

 

[adam.vol]

The AP poll is stupid.

You can make a good argument for Michigan State over us.

You can make a meh argument for Bama.

But St. John’s is absurd to me

Yeah. They have one win against a ranked team and lost to Baylor. That doesn’t add up.

 

[VolCalls]

Yeah. They have one win against a ranked team and lost to Baylor. That doesn’t add up.

They are 2-0 vs teams currently ranked and 4-1 on the season vs teams who were ranked at the time. They went 27-4 and won the Big East going away. They swept the two-time defending national champions - a team many on this board don’t want to play in the 2nd round of the NCAAT. Most importantly, they’ve won 6 in a row and 16/17. They have the 2nd best defense in the country. When you win that much and other teams lose, you consistently move up the rankings.

Am I saying they’re better than us? Absolutely not, we will be seeded higher than them in the tournament, which is all that matters and is also why the AP poll has nothing to do with seeding in the NCAAT.

 

[VolCalls]

The AP poll is stupid.

You can make a good argument for Michigan State over us.

You can make a meh argument for Bama.

But St. John’s is absurd to me

When teams win and win and win they pass teams ahead of them who lose on a weekly basis. That’s how polls work.

The selection committee is the equivalent of the CFP, they just don’t release their rankings on a weekly basis. I 100% guarantee you we are way ahead of St. John’s in the rankings that matter. No need to be butthurt over a writers poll that has no bearing on the postseason.

 

[Volizona]

Writers should never have any say at all. Should get rid of the AP rankings in all sports.

 

[VolCalls]

Writers should never have any say at all. Should get rid of the AP rankings in all sports.

They don’t have any say. That poll and their opinions have zero impact on the NCAAT. No need to get bent out of shape.

 

[DonDiego]

I don't want to join the juvenile 'just win baby' crowd, but fact of the matter is, whether you get a one or two seed, you still have to beat the top teams to win out--no easy roads. If they stick us with a number two seed, we'll do fine, if it's meant to be. Just win baby!

 

[Volizona]

They don’t have any say. That poll and their opinions have zero impact on the NCAAT. No need to get bent out of shape.

Not bent out of shape, I just don’t think dorky writers, especially mid western ones should have any kind of vote whatsoever