800 Golf Courses Have Closed in the Last Decade

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doozer said:
Anybody who claims golfers are generally stuck up pricks

1. Doesn't know what I the blue hell they are talking about because
2. They've never played a round in Blount Co.
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you can't make two points if the first depends on the second to be valid.

and my comments come from working a golf course for two summers and dealing with said stuck up pricks every day. but some comments are right, I haven't seen what a public course looks like; but I know the guys at this club in chattanooga wouldn't let you be a member if you admitted to playing on a public course in the last year.
 
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#102
#102
volfanbill said:
Both. Weather and time permitting, I walk. I'm 36 and still strap the bag on my back (although that might not last to 40). Walking lets me think about my next shot, clear my head and concentrate better. I play 3-4 strokes better per round on average walking.
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I walked and carried my bag until I was about 62 or 63. Arthritis in my knees and feet put me in a cart. I would walk today if I could.
 
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LouderVol said:
you can't make two points if the first depends on the second to be valid.

and my comments come from working a golf course for two summers and dealing with said stuck up pricks every day. but some comments are right, I haven't seen what a public course looks like; but I know the guys at this club in chattanooga wouldn't let you be a member if you admitted to playing on a public course in the last year.
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So you made your points based off encounters from one country club. Brilliant. That's like not liking NASCAR based solely on Watkins Glen or not liking MLB because the Padres don't wear brown anymore.
 
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VolnJC said:
I never really enjoyed the game..imo opinion the demise is both economical and the lack of focus by millennials...they aren't going to spend 3-4 hours playing a sport.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/real...-normal-in-america/ss-BBCmGBn?ocid=spartandhp
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Good. Nothing says "Waste of Water" like a golf course in the desert. Hell Phoenix/Mesa has like 20 golf courses - I wonder how many are in Vegas? Probably more. They are so unnecessary it boggles the mind that they're still around in such abundant numbers. Eventually people are going to realize how foolish this business of wasting water simply to maintain a green lawn is, but that's probably going to take a substantial water crisis in the US to make any real difference in the way people use their water.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Good. Nothing says "Waste of Water" like a golf course in the desert. Hell Phoenix/Mesa has like 20 golf courses - I wonder how many are in Vegas? Probably more. They are so unnecessary it boggles the mind that they're still around in such abundant numbers. Eventually people are going to realize how foolish this business of wasting water simply to maintain a green lawn is, but that's probably going to take a substantial water crisis in the US to make any real difference in the way people use their water.
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Us wasting water goes beyond golf courses
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Good. Nothing says "Waste of Water" like a golf course in the desert. Hell Phoenix/Mesa has like 20 golf courses - I wonder how many are in Vegas? Probably more. They are so unnecessary it boggles the mind that they're still around in such abundant numbers. Eventually people are going to realize how foolish this business of wasting water simply to maintain a green lawn is, but that's probably going to take a substantial water crisis in the US to make any real difference in the way people use their water.
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nonsense! we all know that Lake Mead is bottomless!
LakeMeadWaterLevel.jpg
 
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volfanbill said:
So you made your points based off encounters from one country club. Brilliant. That's like not liking NASCAR based solely on Watkins Glen or not liking MLB because the Padres don't wear brown anymore.
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The only reason to like NASCAR is Watkins Glen, though.
 
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VolnJC said:
nonsense! we all know that Lake Mead is bottomless!
LakeMeadWaterLevel.jpg
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It's crazy. Ive done a lot of work along the shores of the Colorado and perimeter or these lakes. Wont be long til these lakes start looking like the (former) Aral sea. Actually I can't wait til Lake Powell evaporates. It covers up some of the best canyons in the world.

Lake Mead...Lake Powell...Lake Mohave...Lake Havasu...are all in terrible shape - the water is especially polluted in Lake Mead/Mohave/Havasu...that Las Vegas draw is an abomination...no telling how much toxic sludge is built up at the bottom of the lake because of it. The ecology is changing in those areas too. Water draws dont work like they used to especially since invasives like Tamarisk (salt cedar) and Russian Thistle have taken over the banks. Essentially salt cedar turns water draws into canals because their roots hold the soil so well, not allowing for much debris or soil to escape. This has a major impact on how rainfaill and waterflow is distributed throughout the area, as local rainfaill is much less likely to be absorbed into the local aquifers in those areas with heavy salt cedar infestations (which is 90% of the Colorado). This impacts flooding especially but it also impacts wildfires too since these areas are drying out quicker than they should.
 
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sofflavol said:
Golf is boom down here in South Florida, and now that the Canadians have gone back north and the sun stays out until nearly 8 o'clock me and my buddies get sometimes 2rounds in a week for no more than 15 bucks. Cost of a movie ticket, can't beat that.
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Man I miss livin in T Bay...me and my buddies would meet at least once a week after work about 5pm and knock out 18-27 holes before dark. I absolutely suck at golf, but I love the game. I could play great courses all over the T Bay area for 15-20$ twilight fees in the summer time. Here I can't play the local 9 hole barn yard course for less than 22$, and its just a 6-8 month game here.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'm not sure where Millennial starts and stops but all of my nieces and nephews (ages 7-16) hit the sticks. Some like it more than others. I was forced to play as a kid, ran from it as a "tween", but got back into it as a teenager and it's been an on/off thing in my life ever since. I've gone years between rounds and I've had years where I played several times a week weather permitting. It's always there waiting. Takes a little time to knock the dust off but it comes back to you.
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That's right where I'm at. My 25 year old son plays too, so does my 22 year old son in law.
 
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508mikey said:
Just wondering this -- Back when I played I always walked - there were no carts at most public courses --- It seems like nowdays, most use a cart. Those of you that play, do you walk or use a cart ?
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I used to walk every round when I was in my twenties. I liked the exercise, and it is a beautiful walk on most courses. I can't do it any more thanks to major problems with my knees and back. I have to load up on painkillers just to play at all lol.
 
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volfanbill said:
So you made your points based off encounters from one country club. Brilliant. That's like not liking NASCAR based solely on Watkins Glen or not liking MLB because the Padres don't wear brown anymore.
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I put in a lot more trust on my judgement based on what side of the register (metaphorically) I am sitting on. Now clearly my use of absolutes was unwise, usually is; but I still wouldn't go out of my way to help said golfers.

one of the best way to judge someone's character is to see how they interact with people less important than them; and these guys appalled me. I have worked with all sorts doing a bunch of high school summer jobs. the golfers were the only ones bad enough to make me take a pay decrease instead of dealing with them.
 
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LouderVol said:
I put in a lot more trust on my judgement based on what side of the register (metaphorically) I am sitting on. Now clearly my use of absolutes was unwise, usually is; but I still wouldn't go out of my way to help said golfers.

one of the best way to judge someone's character is to see how they interact with people less important than them; and these guys appalled me. I have worked with all sorts doing a bunch of high school summer jobs. the golfers were the only ones bad enough to make me take a pay decrease instead of dealing with them.
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My point remains. You're making an overall assumption based on the smallest sample group imaginable. Not a good way to make decisions. I have heavy millennial tendencies and I'm smart enough to know that.
 
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LouderVol said:
I put in a lot more trust on my judgement based on what side of the register (metaphorically) I am sitting on. Now clearly my use of absolutes was unwise, usually is; but I still wouldn't go out of my way to help said golfers.

one of the best way to judge someone's character is to see how they interact with people less important than them; and these guys appalled me. I have worked with all sorts doing a bunch of high school summer jobs. the golfers were the only ones bad enough to make me take a pay decrease instead of dealing with them.
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I belonged to a country club for several years, and I am inclined to agree with you. I always said that I fit in better with the kitchen help, and greenskeeping crew than I did with the other members. I was there strictly for the golf. A lot of club members where I joined were pretty snooty.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I used to walk every round when I was in my twenties. I liked the exercise, and it is a beautiful walk on most courses. I can't do it any more thanks to major problems with my knees and back. I have to load up on painkillers just to play at all lol.
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When i was young and single, I played constantly. Started out on 2nd shift. Daily mornings rotated between the gym and walking 9 holes for $10. Got more serious with it in my 30's and got down to a decent 10-11 handicap. Got going with a couple beers and 4 motrin, and no swing hinderences. Now, may play couple times a year. Family ($$), and hips from walking factory floors for 27 years. My drives end up on one leg half the time. But, it balances out my fade and goes alot straighter.
 
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#119
I don't enjoy it because I suck at it. And the cost to get decent at it is too much, both time and money. I took lessons too. I just don't think I'll ever get the hang of it.
 
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My experience, it's a stupid, boring game.....until you hit an awesome drive, chip shot, or putt and then you're hooked.

I don't really play much anymore, but I've lost count how many times I went through that cycle.
 
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