9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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#52
Any one remember the speech Rumsfeld gave on sept 10 2001?

Can you guess which side of the pentagon got hit and what was stored there?
 
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volfanngatorland said:
So now planes didn't hit the towers either? Or were they just extra seasoned pilots?

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with this info
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He's saying several pilots, and test pilots including one with over 32,000 flying hours have flown the simulator, exact flight path, drop in altitude and maneuvers, still had problems hitting this targets.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
So now planes didn't hit the towers either? Or were they just extra seasoned pilots?

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with this info
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Did I say thay?

I know for a fact they hit the towers. A woman from my town (lavaca, Arkansas) was there. She took the pic that was all over the net afterwards.
 
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I have no idea what happened that day. I do know I don't believe anything that comes from the government.
As a steel worker, I can tell you, you don't have to melt beams to get them to lose strength. 600-700 degrees will do that by itself. If you've ever seen what's called a cobble in steel mill lingo, you'd be amazed as how flexible steel is at 1000-1500 degrees.

9/11 was horrible, I had just gotten off night shift and got home and ate breakfast and started to bed when I heard the report just about the time the second plane was to hit. So depressing.
 
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I almost hesitate to even post this, but I'm going to.

This is the right place to post this, unlike some other posters seem unable to understand.

Here's what I think happened. And this is by no means meant to take away from the loss of life that day. In fact, it may even make it more of a national tragedy if my theory is right.

So here goes:

9/11 was not a planned inside job by the US government.

However, I do believe that the powers that be at the time (read Dick Cheney; you can laugh at me if you want, but we see where he took us) knew that something was abrew. I think they allowed whatever it was to happen, perhaps figuring a bombing or two of a mall or stadium or significant government building of that sort would suffice to get Dick Cheney into the Middle East (he practically admitted as much in a private Halliburton meeting in 1999, most likely not meant for consumption.) So I don't think they really tried that hard to stop it.

I don't think for one second they ever thought it would be this big.

They were very wrong.

They ****ed up big time.

Tried to correct it with a glorious short war in Iraq.

****ed up again.

And here we are.

You can laugh at this if you want, but I firmly believe it.

I think they originally thought the intelligence gap might lead to a couple dozen Americans blown up in a mall, which would have been sufficient for their aims.

Regardless, here we are.

You can poke fun of the Obama administration all you want, but there has never been a more disastrous (and possibly even traitorous) administration than that held by President Dick Cheney.
 
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AirVol said:
He's saying several pilots, and test pilots including one with over 32,000 flying hours have flown the simulator, exact flight path, drop in altitude and maneuvers, still had problems hitting this targets.
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I know what he's saying. There must be a point behind it though, right?

If he's trying to say flying into the building was difficult, I'm not sure anyone would disagree. If he's trying to say more than that, I'm just asking what he's Trying to say.
 
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Obsessed said:
If you are going to be an ass, you can find it yourself. Or don't, I don't care either way.
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Ok, so you're going to pose a question that seemingly helps your case, and then decide not to post it. Color me shocked.

I'm interested to see how Rumsfeld's speech ties into the conspiracy plot.
 
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Obsessed said:
If you are going to be an ass, you can find it yourself. Or don't, I don't care either way.
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I am willing to bet Space Coast could tell you that they could do it. And as he is the only commercial airline pilot, that I know of, on this site I will defer to him. I did ask my brother in law, who flys for delta, and he said absoulutletty
 
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Let me be clear. I don't think the bush administration had any knowledge of this.

Now, the CIA?
 
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Gramps said:
I think flight 93 was shot down by the US Government.
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That's one "conspiracy" that wouldn't shock me. Doesn't really matter either way I guess, but the passenger takeover makes for a better story.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Go on...
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Rumsfeld stated 9/10/2001 that 2.3 Trillion dollars couldn't be accounted for, the next day, boom.

The pentagon was hit in the side that housed the computers.

Have you ever watched any of the documentarys on the pentagon? Just the infrastructure that makes up that facility?
 
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volprof said:
I almost hesitate to even post this, but I'm going to.

This is the right place to post this, unlike some other posters seem unable to understand.

Here's what I think happened. And this is by no means meant to take away from the loss of life that day. In fact, it may even make it more of a national tragedy if my theory is right.

So here goes:

9/11 was not a planned inside job by the US government.

However, I do believe that the powers that be at the time (read Dick Cheney; you can laugh at me if you want, but we see where he took us) knew that something was abrew. I think they allowed whatever it was to happen, perhaps figuring a bombing or two of a mall or stadium or significant government building of that sort would suffice to get Dick Cheney into the Middle East (he practically admitted as much in a private Halliburton meeting in 1999, most likely not meant for consumption.) So I don't think they really tried that hard to stop it.

I don't think for one second they ever thought it would be this big.

They were very wrong.

They ****ed up big time.

Tried to correct it with a glorious short war in Iraq.

****ed up again.

And here we are.

You can laugh at this if you want, but I firmly believe it.

I think they originally thought the intelligence gap might lead to a couple dozen Americans blown up in a mall, which would have been sufficient for their aims.

Regardless, here we are.

You can poke fun of the Obama administration all you want, but there has never been a more disastrous (and possibly even traitorous) administration than that held by President Dick Cheney.
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Clinton could have taken Bin Laden out - didn't do it.

But it's somehow all Cheney's fault?

Whatever fits the narrative I guess, huh?
 
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volfanhill said:
I am willing to bet Space Coast could tell you that they could do it. And as he is the only commercial airline pilot, that I know of, on this site I will defer to him. I did ask my brother in law, who flys for delta, and he said absoulutletty
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Has your bro in law ever flown a 767 at 500 AGL at 400 knots with precision flying? The flight controls would be virtually impossible to handle. And what's most impressive, 3 planes did it.
 
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