9/11 Conspiracy Thread

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Carl Pickens said:
I read the 9/11 Commission Report and NORAD was freaking out..... That's what they were doing. The transponders on the planes had been turned off and they had no idea where they were for certain.
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NORAD was running training exercises

"Hijackers take over planes and fly them in to buildings"

Where are the black boxes to those planes?
 
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bamawriter said:
Let's all just ignore the fact that such a conspiracy would require hundreds, if not thousands, of people to pull off.

Such massive silence is only slightly short of impossible.
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I can agree with this, but where there's smoke, there's fire and it smells like fish to me. Lots of things don't add up.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
What's the theory then? I'm honestly interested, I haven't found much to convince me in these trailer and articles you guys have posted. Mainly just people asking vague questions and providing no real answers.

Then, you read the comments on these articles and within 5 posts everyone has debunked what was posted.
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You haven't had time to watch that documentary.

I've got plenty of info to share. But I will not waste my time if you won't really listen. If your mind is made up, it won't matter what I show you.
 
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Obsessed said:
You haven't had time to watch that documentary.

I've got plenty of info to share. But I will not waste my time if you won't really listen. If your mind is made up, it won't matter what I show you.
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I could say the same for you, no? Doesn't matter what is presented, you'll always be on the conspiracy side and anything presented "can't be taken at its word" or "its fishy".

Heck, you've made a movie on this, so I would guess you have some financial motives tied up in this as well.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I could say the same for you, no? Doesn't matter what is presented, you'll always be on the conspiracy side and anything presented "can't be taken at its word" or "its fishy".

Heck, you've made a movie on this, so I would guess you have some financial motives tied up in this as well.
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Incorrect. I argued until I was blue in the face against what I'm posting now.

I've made no such movie. I simply read.


Again, I'll ask.

Do you think the fed would come out and admit a conspiracy? Or give you a story you can believe and get behind for a war?

Or?
 
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Obsessed said:
Incorrect. I argued until I was blue in the face against what I'm posting now.

I've made no such movie. I simply read.


Again, I'll ask.

Do you think the fed would come out and admit a conspiracy? Or give you a story you can believe and get behind for a war?

Or?
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I do not.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I do not.
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But yet you believe what they tell you to be the truth.


I don't know what happened. Ok?

I just know that some of this stuff doesn't add up. I'm not crazy. I don't wear a tin foil hat. But there is no way those jets got to those buildings with out someone knowing.

im no hero or bad ass. But if you are going to crash a plane I'm on, in to a building, it's going to take more than box knives. Hell, it will take more than that to take my lunch from me.
 
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I gonna stoop so low like LG and say there is no proof or evidence that these hijackers even boarded these planes.
 
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Obsessed said:
But yet you believe what they tell you to be the truth.


I don't know what happened. Ok?

I just know that some of this stuff doesn't add up. I'm not crazy. I don't wear a tin foil hat. But there is no way those jets got to those buildings with out someone knowing.

im no hero or bad ass. But if you are going to crash a plane I'm on, in to a building, it's going to take more than box knives. Hell, it will take more than that to take my lunch from me.
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You know the government isn't the only entity that supports the current story of how events unfolded that day? Most scientist, engineers, people with knowledge in the field support that. There are a few who don't, and those are who are in most of these videos and are interviewed for these articles. That's fine.

Listen, I'm sure in your mind (and apparently several other in this thread) what you're saying makes sense. That's fine, too.

I've seen countless videos that debunk all the "conspiracy theories" out there and it is far more plausible than our government pulling off a giant coverup of epic proportions. Our gov can't do anything right but somehow they pull this off? C'mon.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
I could say the same for you, no? Doesn't matter what is presented, you'll always be on the conspiracy side and anything presented "can't be taken at its word" or "its fishy".

Heck, you've made a movie on this, so I would guess you have some financial motives tied up in this as well.
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Not necessarily. I was on the other side of the fence up until about 3-4 years ago.
 
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Also something that can't be debunked, why was Nano-thermite found in the tower wreckage?

The Patriot Act was already written before 9/11 and passed in October. Why did we need the Patriot Act?

I'll hang up and listen.
 
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AirVol said:
Also something that can't be debunked, why was Nano-thermite found in the tower wreckage?

The Patriot Act was already written before 9/11 and passed in October. Why did we need the Patriot Act?

I'll hang up and listen.
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The PATRIOT Act was not written before 9/11. Many of its provisions were already written in response to other events, namely the USS Cole bombing. They were consolidated into one act after 9/11. The fact that it passed quickly should not be surprising given the circumstances. The Act itself doesn't contain a ton of brand new law. It's mostly amendments to existing laws (surveillance, banking, travel, etc).
 
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AirVol said:
Also something that can't be debunked, why was Nano-thermite found in the tower wreckage?

The Patriot Act was already written before 9/11 and passed in October. Why did we need the Patriot Act?

I'll hang up and listen.
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Take a few minutes and look up what thermite is made of the compounds itself.. It's not surprising that those particles were found floating around NYC...
 
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AirVol said:
the 4 hijackers who were supposedly flying the aircraft were amateur pilots, who had learned to fly in small propeller planes, and were described by their instructors as having had only "average" or even "very poor" piloting skills. But on their first attempt at flying jet aircraft,on 9/11, these men were supposedly able to fly Boeing 757s and 767s at altitudes of tens of thousands of feet, without any assistance from air traffic control. Three of them were apparently able to successfully navigate their planes all the way to the intended targets, which they hit with pinpoint accuracy.
For such poor pilots to carry out such skilled flying would surely have been extremely unlikely, perhaps impossible.

I personally know pilots from airlines, UPS and Fedex that fly these planes. They've said there's no f'kn way they flew these planes with such precision and speed with no navigation the way they did without training on these particular jets. The report we know of is these hijackers trained on small planes and there's a substantial difference in speed, size, and weight and the maneuverability of the planes.
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Anyone with a copy of Microsoft flight simulator could have done it. ANYONE.

Flying is easy, landing are trickier but still relatively simple with the use of ILS. Of course, they didn't have to do that.

All they had to do was fly to a general vicinity and the hone in on the tallest buying. They trained as pilots, but six weeks with MS flight simulator and you're good.

Fun fact: MS Flight Sim took the trade center buildings out of the game so people wouldn't recreate the flight of the terrorists.
 
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Septic said:
Anyone with a copy of Microsoft flight simulator could have done it. ANYONE.

Flying is easy, landing are trickier but still relatively simple with the use of ILS. Of course, they didn't have to do that.

All they had to do was fly to a general vicinity and the hone in on the tallest buying. They trained as pilots, but six weeks with MS flight simulator and you're good.

Fun fact: MS Flight Sim took the trade center buildings out of the game so people wouldn't recreate the flight of the terrorists.
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...and how many flying hours do you have again?
 
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