A Bill Would Bring Back Lady Vols

[Sandvol]

What if the people in charge of making these decisions want to change our colors? What if they want to change our name from the Volunteers to the Smokies? What if Nike says they did a market study and Smokies is a better name for us? The people in charge should be allowed to make these decisions, right?

 

[Sandvol]

Also, what if the people in charge want to change the name of the stadium? Nobody knows who Neyland is anymore. Maybe it should be changed to Butch Jones Stadium. And, they want to change the field to Dave Hart Field. They should have the right to do that shouldn't they? What if Butch Jones and Dave Hart demand it?

 

[Ladyvol777]

What a minute- you are blaming "the liberal elites" for changing the LVs name. You really think Cheeks or Hart are liberal elite; I think they are far more likely to be on the conservative side of the political spectrum.

But the name changes seems to have been a marketing-driven, business decision, and hence all about $ (about as conservative a logic as you can get) -- Nike did not want the LVs as a separate brand and they wielded the power of the big sponsorship deal. I personally think it was a bad call but Vols/Power T versus LVs is really not part of the liberal elite plo. We have too much to do already, what with stealing your guns, converting everyone to homosexuality, waging war on Xmas, and all....

Happy Holidays.

Merry Christmas to you "the liberal elites"

 

[Slydell]

Most people don't care enough to post on message boards or attend a rally or even bring it up in casual conversation. But, if you ask most people, most of them will tell you they'd rather the women's programs keep the name Lady Vols. That doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter to me what most people think. The thing that has pissed me off about this whole affair was Dave Hart lying about how this went down. It was indeed important for current and former Lady Vols to be asked and that is why he mentioned it. But he lied about it like the idiot he is. The women should have been asked. It should have been their decision. But they didn't ask because they might have gotten an answer they didn't like. It might not have met their agenda. It should not have been the BOT, or Jimmy Cheeks or Dave Hart or a bunch of liberal elitists who run the campus to make this decision but current and former Lady Vols. Whatever they would have decided would have been fine with me. It wouldn't have been fine with the agenda driven folks who made this decision.

I've always been 100% in favor of maintaining the Lady Vols identity for all women's sports. Also, adding back a larger LV logo on all uniforms. You might want to jump off the sheep wagon with that one comment.

 

[armchair]

Also, what if the people in charge want to change the name of the stadium? Nobody knows who Neyland is anymore. Maybe it should be changed to Butch Jones Stadium. And, they want to change the field to Dave Hart Field. They should have the right to do that shouldn't they? What if Butch Jones and Dave Hart demand it?

Hart wants every UT teams to be called the Vols, which is the state's and the university's nickname and has been the nickname for our sport's teams for, what, more than 100 years? Vols is the school's nickname, so let's stop pretending that the AD or anyone has suggested some odd or revolutionary change.

 

[Ladyvol777]

Hart wants every UT teams to be called the Vols, which is the state's and the university's nickname and has been the nickname for our sport's teams for, what, more than 100 years? Vols is the school's nickname, so let's stop pretending that the AD or anyone has suggested some odd or revolutionary change.

So ever sport team in Tennessee should be called the Vols

 

[madtownvol]

Merry Christmas to you "the liberal elites"

Thank you and Happy new Year to you and yours.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Also, what if the people in charge want to change the name of the stadium? Nobody knows who Neyland is anymore. Maybe it should be changed to Butch Jones Stadium. And, they want to change the field to Dave Hart Field. They should have the right to do that shouldn't they? What if Butch Jones and Dave Hart demand it?

The Wade Houston Sod seems more appropriate.

 

[Sandvol]

Hart wants every UT teams to be called the Vols, which is the state's and the university's nickname and has been the nickname for our sport's teams for, what, more than 100 years? Vols is the school's nickname, so let's stop pretending that the AD or anyone has suggested some odd or revolutionary change.

Well Geez whatever that Bama grad wants that Bama grad gets.

 

[DeerPark12]

Most people don't care enough to post on message boards or attend a rally or even bring it up in casual conversation. But, if you ask most people, most of them will tell you they'd rather the women's programs keep the name Lady Vols. That doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter to me what most people think. The thing that has pissed me off about this whole affair was Dave Hart lying about how this went down. It was indeed important for current and former Lady Vols to be asked and that is why he mentioned it. But he lied about it like the idiot he is. The women should have been asked. It should have been their decision. But they didn't ask because they might have gotten an answer they didn't like. It might not have met their agenda. It should not have been the BOT, or Jimmy Cheeks or Dave Hart or a bunch of liberal elitists who run the campus to make this decision but current and former Lady Vols. Whatever they would have decided would have been fine with me. It wouldn't have been fine with the agenda driven folks who made this decision.

Now, I've agreed with you most of the way, but I have to disagree with you here. Despite the diversity controversy recently, "liberals" are still few and far between on the UT campus.

Jimmy Cheek and Dave Hart are many things, but they aren't liberals. They are as conservative and Republican as they come.

If you think there are "liberal elitists" running the campus, then you haven't been on campus. UT is one of the most conservative public universities in the country.

The only "agenda" at work was wanting to consolidate the branding. Now, we can argue (and have been for months) whether that decision was right or wrong, but there wasn't an agenda driving it beyond putting all of Tennessee's sports, other than women's basketball, under one brand for sales and marketing purposes.

It's obviously VERY early in the process, but both volleyball and soccer saw increases in attendance utilizing the new branding. Is the change responsible for that increase? Too soon to tell. But it is what it is.

 

[gule]

making things up @ 2:20 in the morning? how liberal of you.

 

[Sandvol]

Now, I've agreed with you most of the way, but I have to disagree with you here. Despite the diversity controversy recently, "liberals" are still few and far between on the UT campus.

Jimmy Cheek and Dave Hart are many things, but they aren't liberals. They are as conservative and Republican as they come.

If you think there are "liberal elitists" running the campus, then you haven't been on campus. UT is one of the most conservative public universities in the country.

The only "agenda" at work was wanting to consolidate the branding. Now, we can argue (and have been for months) whether that decision was right or wrong, but there wasn't an agenda driving it beyond putting all of Tennessee's sports, other than women's basketball, under one brand for sales and marketing purposes.

It's obviously VERY early in the process, but both volleyball and soccer saw increases in attendance utilizing the new branding. Is the change responsible for that increase? Too soon to tell. But it is what it is.

I'm not really talking about Cheeks and Hart per se. I don't think it was their decision. You'll never convince me it was their decision. They were strongly influenced to make this decision. The University was pressured from the outside from the media i.e. the article from Christine Brennan and internally from faculty and administration and probably above because it was easier to go with the flow and not be the object of ridicule from the likes of Brennan. As to the increase in attendance for me that's beside the point. And, I personally could live with the one brand. But, I don't want the university making decisions because of political correctness and I don't want the women un-empowered. They should have been actually consulted.

 

[governmentmule]

I like the idea of a bill,but I don't expect it to do much if anything at all,but it will let Cheek and Bama Dave know that us Fans love the Lady Vols,despite what they are trying to do