A Few People Are Upset Over Lady Vols Record Setting Against North Carolina Central

[Golfteacher]

I am not upset because this is the way CKC coaches the game. She put in everyone but the water and towel girl. I remember when a few people were mad because Kim and Genno ran up scores. However, lower level teams know what they are signing up for when they play one of the 4 major conference teams or UCONN. CKC is trying to teach her ball players to play at a certain speed and level no matter if it is UCONN or if it Slippery Rock. Sometimes against poor competition there will be blowouts, records set and records broken. Good coaches do not dumb down their team so that poorer competition will not get blown out.

 

[newladyvolfan]

They are just Jealous!!!! Keep winning and breaking records.. Kim cant coach her team and the other team lol

 

[madtownvol]

I am not upset because this is the way CKC coaches the game. She put in everyone but the water and towel girl. I remember when a few people were mad because Kim and Genno ran up scores. However, lower level teams know what they are signing up for when they play one of the 4 major conference teams or UCONN. CKC is trying to teach her ball players to play at a certain speed and level no matter if it is UCONN or if it Slippery Rock. Sometimes against poor competition there will be blowouts, records set and records broken. Good coaches do not dumb down their team so that poorer competition will not get blown out.

I am curious why you think these few people needed to be highlighted. In our social media saturated society, you can find a few people who are upset about anything and everything.

The LVs are on a nice string of successes- recruiting and an undefeated start--I don' understand sure why some in the fan base need some "bogeyman" who is upset that things are going well. You see they hate us!!! Okay, cool, I guess....

 

[lvocd]

Again, since the schedules were put together for this season, NCC lost four starters and then a fifth player to injury, so nobody could have anticipated they'd experience the struggles they've experienced. They deserve a lot of credit for scoring as many points as they have under the circumstances.

And hey, they sure were good enough to get several layups at the end of our press, PLUS a couple of their players had some pretty sweet strokes on the three ball.

PLUS their program got a nice check which will help them be able to keep having a women's basketball program at NCC.

 

[Rickster]

I don’t want to come across as insensitive but to single out a team for a scheduling mismatch, when no one had anything to do with scheduling the game, is a little shortsighted. Also, why should the fans who paid to watch the game be subjected to sloppy play as the team attempts to score less. The season is getting ready to get much harder and I personally would like the players to be on top of their game and confident in their ability to execute the game plan rather than slopping up a game because a handful of people don’t want a large margin in the score. We need to be fine tuning our execution….not compromising it.

 

[Jax_Vol]

North Carolina Central players and staff weren't upset about it in the least.

The only person mad, is Rick Insell.

His jealousy meter is currently pegged out.

 

[brittannica]

Some Vandy fans upset because Khamil Pierre set some record for them that was overshadowed.

 

[Chipperbones]

So are you supposed to tell your shooters to miss on purpose? On any given night we could be shooting the three at 20%. We were close to 50% in this game. May never have everyone on fire at the same time again!

 

[glv98]

Some Vandy fans upset because Khamil Pierre set some record for them that was overshadowed.

Against Evansville, in a 66 pt win. She played 32.5 mins and took 28 shots. Had a hell of a game but not sure they can throw stones in glass houses. Everyone is doing it now.

I've def made it clear what I think of these games. But I get every reason why they happen and I'm pretty sure the LVs will get somewhat upgraded next season. It's just an overall trend that feels fan unfriendly.

 

[superfly]

If she played everyone then there should be no issue. The girls just want to play. That is why they are on scholarship. To play basketball. It's a golden opportunity to let them, so let them.

 

[Manchester Vol]

All a bunch a Karens

 

[lvocd]

Some Vandy fans upset because Khamil Pierre set some record for them that was overshadowed.

Who?

 

[brittannica]

Who?

Over on reddit, which admittedly trends young. They also feel slighted for not being ranked, but rankings this time of year can be so silly.

 

[volsfan24017]

Here's a thought. The other team should've played some defense.

 

[Voltopia]

I have zero problem with Tennessee running up the score. The only thing I said was that I didn't think Tennessee should have scheduled that type of team. Sort of the same vibe the Tennessee sports media on the Sport Source tv show had after Tennessee played Kent State in football and crushed them 70-0. There was a pretty strong undercurrent of "why on earth did you schedule this game?" to their comments afterward. Just had some of that vibe. A Division II team that hasn't had a winning record in almost 20 years, if it even had one before then, and doesn't win a lot of games in general. I dunno. I know teams schedule tune ups, I know schools do favors to help other programs or friends in the professional. Just, dang. And I know, they were missing four players, but it was still a real head scratcher. I'm not saying their team wasn't worthy of being on the court. Just ... meh.

Once it was on the books though, I had no problem with UT going buzzer to buzzer. Once you're on the field of play, you play to the horn. And a lot of the records in basketball (as in any sport) come from lopsided matches. You don't set scoring records against teams with superior defense or dominant on-ball defenders or anything like that. Just like you don't normally rush for hundreds of yards against teams with good football defenses. Well, unless you're Travis Stephens playing against Rex Grossman's 2001 Florida Gators. Then you rush for 200+ and score multiple touchdowns and then no one even thinks to invite you for the Heistman. Grr.

*correction* - An FCS team. Not Division II.

 

[volroadwarrior]

Some people are born to pizz and moan.

 

[VOLLeeann]

"A few people" always wake up to pissed-in Corn Flakes.

 

[lvocd]

I have zero problem with Tennessee running up the score. The only thing I said was that I didn't think Tennessee should have scheduled that type of team. Sort of the same vibe the Tennessee sports media on the Sport Source tv show had after Tennessee played Kent State in football and crushed them 70-0. There was a pretty strong undercurrent of "why on earth did you schedule this game?" to their comments afterward. Just had some of that vibe. A Division II team that hasn't had a winning record in almost 20 years, if it even had one before then, and doesn't win a lot of games in general. I dunno. I know teams schedule tune ups, I know schools do favors to help other programs or friends in the professional. Just, dang. And I know, they were missing four players, but it was still a real head scratcher. I'm not saying their team wasn't worthy of being on the court. Just ... meh.

Once it was on the books though, I had no problem with UT going buzzer to buzzer. Once you're on the field of play, you play to the horn. And a lot of the records in basketball (as in any sport) come from lopsided matches. You don't set scoring records against teams with superior defense or dominant on-ball defenders or anything like that. Just like you don't normally rush for hundreds of yards against teams with good football defenses. Well, unless you're Travis Stephens playing against Rex Grossman's 2001 Florida Gators. Then you rush for 200+ and score multiple touchdowns and then no one even thinks to invite you for the Heistman. Grr.

Thing is, they likely weren't quite "that type of team" when they were scheduled, which is probably why a number of other strong programs scheduled them as well. AFTER NCC scheduled Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, LSU etc. is when they lost their four best players to injury, along with a fifth player.

I guess Kim should have asked for both a crystal ball and a time machine in her contract so that scheduling a shorthanded team might have been avoided.

That Kim appears to have not even thought about either acquiring her own time machine or borrowing one from a trusted coaching peer IS alarming, to be honest. Her reluctance to step outside this dimension into the future in order to ensure she didn't schedule anyone who would be decimated by injury at the time we met, is something worth writing to the AD about, I think. There should be some kind of punishment for her not putting in the effort there.

Aside from that I have felt like Caldwell has done a good job. But man.She should have at least gone to a carnival and dropped a coin into a Zoltar the Fortune Teller machine. But nooooooo! Lazy.

 

[Voltopia]

Thing is, they likely weren't quite "that type of team" when they were scheduled, which is probably why a number of other strong programs scheduled them as well. AFTER NCC scheduled Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, LSU etc. is when they lost their four best players to injury, along with a fifth player.

I guess Kim should have asked for both a crystal ball and a time machine in her contract so that scheduling a shorthanded team might have been avoided.

That Kim appears to have not even thought about either acquiring her own time machine or borrowing one from a trusted coaching peer IS alarming, to be honest. Her reluctance to step outside this dimension into the future in order to ensure she didn't schedule anyone who would be decimated by injury at the time we met, is something worth writing to the AD about, I think. There should be some kind of punishment for her not putting in the effort there.

Aside from that I have felt like Caldwell has done a good job. But man.She should have at least gone to a carnival and dropped a coin into a Zoltar the Fortune Teller machine. But nooooooo! Lazy.

Where did I say Caldwell scheduled them? Where did I even insinuate that? That's a misrepresentation of what I said.

They were a little under .500 the last two years, and are 0-12 this year. I don't understand the need to take shots at me for saying a Division II team with their profile probably isn't the type of team Tennessee should schedule. It's not as if I said anything untoward either.

I mean, I recall a whole lot of us piled on Mulkey for scheduling a pasty soft schedule in 2022. Because she had a pasty soft schedule that year. Maybe 2023 also? I forget. Whatever.

 

[Mimi#1]

Where did I say Caldwell scheduled them? Where did I even insinuate that? That's a misrepresentation of what I said.

They were a little under .500 the last teo years, and are 0-12 this year. I don't understand the need to take shots at me for saying a Division II team with their profile probably isn't the type of team Tennessee should schedule. It's not as if I said anything untoward either.

I mean, I recall a whole lot of us piled on Mulkey for scheduling a pasty soft schedule in 2022. Because she had a pasty soft schedule that year. Maybe 2023 also? I forget. Whatever.

Maybe those teams want the payout. I understand they get a good paycheck for coming and playing a team of Tennessee's caliber, so Tennessee can take advantage of that and use it as a "game" practice.

 

[Coach Jumper]

To those people who are MAD I say

If you're scared, buy a doberman
If you're mad, buy a drink

 

[Volfan1000]

I am not upset because this is the way CKC coaches the game. She put in everyone but the water and towel girl. I remember when a few people were mad because Kim and Genno ran up scores. However, lower level teams know what they are signing up for when they play one of the 4 major conference teams or UCONN. CKC is trying to teach her ball players to play at a certain speed and level no matter if it is UCONN or if it Slippery Rock. Sometimes against poor competition there will be blowouts, records set and records broken. Good coaches do not dumb down their team so that poorer competition will not get blown out.

I did not read about the North Carolina Central coach moaning about the blowout loss.

 

[lvocd]

Where did I say Caldwell scheduled them? Where did I even insinuate that? That's a misrepresentation of what I said.

They were a little under .500 the last teo years, and are 0-12 this year. I don't understand the need to take shots at me for saying a Division II team with their profile probably isn't the type of team Tennessee should schedule. It's not as if I said anything untoward either.

I mean, I recall a whole lot of us piled on Mulkey for scheduling a pasty soft schedule in 2022. Because she had a pasty soft schedule that year. Maybe 2023 also? I forget. Whatever.

I'm just making it my mission to repeat the scheduling thing with every mention I see of it. It wasn't that I'm picking on you or your posting. No worries.

 

[jsc1973]

The only person mad, is Rick Insell.

His jealousy meter is currently pegged out.

Insell needs to worry about his own team and not Kim Caldwell's, especially when he's getting spanked by Belmont and K-State in back-to-back games.

I have zero problem with Tennessee running up the score.

They didn't really run up the score. Kim played everyone available on the roster double-digit minutes. Yes, they hung 139 points on the board, but that's a function of how they play. Would it have been any better if Tennessee was a team that plays slow and beat them 86-18 or something like that? No one from NCCU that I've heard of has been complaining.

I don't understand the need to take shots at me for saying a Division II team with their profile probably isn't the type of team Tennessee should schedule. It's not as if I said anything untoward either.

NC Central has been in Division I since 2011. Playing them is no better or worse than scheduling any other overmatched mid-major team. Tennessee wasn't wrong to do it, and neither were Georgia, Clemson, Florida State, UNC, or LSU (who beat them by 87).

 

[maple]

Some people will never be happy. The teams that get blown out know what they are getting into. As long as the dominant team isn’t showboating and taunting when up big, who really cares.