A foregone conclusion that we stink this year, What about next year?

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Ranking the 2014 Games - Easiest to Toughest with guesses at the betting lines.

We should be heavily favored in these games, but none of these teams are Austin Peay by a longshot. Chattanooga, in fact, beat Peay 42-10. Utah State is losing a lot of their 2-deep or that would be a scary game.

Oct. 11 Chattanooga Knoxville -28
Sept. 6 Arkansas State Knoxville -21
Aug. 30 Utah State Knoxville -17

We should be favored in these games as well. Vandy will play a non-conference schedule that would make Tennessee Tech blush, so they could have a winning record when we face them.

Nov. 15 Kentucky * Knoxville -14
Nov. 22 Missouri * Knoxville -9
Nov. 29 at Vanderbilt * Nashville -5

Winning one or two of these would be huge. Ole Miss is a big game for West Tenn recruting.

Oct. 18 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. +2
Oct. 4 Florida * Knoxville + 6
Sept. 13 at Oklahoma Norman, Okla. + 9

I expect these teams to still be on top and there are two tough road games.

Nov. 1 at South Carolina * Columbia, SC +10
Sept. 27 at Georgia * Athens, Ga. +14
Oct. 25 Alabama * Knoxville + 17

6 wins would be OK. 8 would be outstanding. More than 8, break out the banjo and contact your untaxed alcoholic distillation distributor for a few jugs of mountain dew, because we have a favorable schedule in 2015 and it is about to rock on Rocky Top.
 
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The recruiting seems to be fine so far, and we will have a very solid indicator if that trend will continue by February. I'm more worried about the investigations everyone seems to be talking about more than anything... although when Tennessee came up alongside Alabama, OK St, and Mississippi St, I had already thought the issues sited for Tennessee were already investigated and dealt with?
 
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I have been here the entire time. It is not that someone have be used to losing/complaining/'fill in choice', it is more about how one responds. It seems that most need to be on suicide watch.
 
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I think that the team as a whole will be better next year with the incoming and developing talent. That does not necessarily mean more wins though. Unfortunately 2015 is probably the year we can look to. Sigh.
 
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Clockwork Orange said:
We lose our entire starting O-Line and D-Line. Lose Rajion Neal, gain Jalen Hurd.
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I have a different take. I'm not overly freaked out about losing our OL and DL starters. They're great kids, but football players?.... not so much.

I'm kinda ready to lose all of the players from the Dooley and Kiffin eras who are infected with the habits of losing and hanging their heads at the slightest bit of adversity.

If we're gonna do this Butch Jones thing then let's do it. Lets let him get his players in here.... kids with the right intensity and emotional makeup to go along with the right physical toughness. The upper classmen on this team are great kids, some physically imposing. But IMHO, they just don't meet the intangible standards we need.

I say be excited about next year when we'll have another class of Butch's kids in here.... and 1 less class of Dooley's
 
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The most important player on the field is the quarterback. You see it every year. Some young stud steps up and leads his team. Whether RG3, Cam Newton, Manziel, or the kid from Florida State, have proved that the quarterback can change the complexion of games and seasons. Granted their overall teams are solid, the quarterbacks can provide a team with huge confidence and belief no matter what the score is. I think this team just needs someone they can believe in.

I have said this since Worley's freshman year, the guy is not a game-changer. He is a system guy. Yes, he is a great kid, but we need a guy with some swagger.
 
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We really need to come up with some more OL's in this class of course we need help everywhere.
 
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i remember a story about bear bryant when he returned to coach bama in the 50s. someone asked him what he expected the next three years to be like, especially the auburn game. bryant told him to bet a coke on the first one (they lost), a hundred dollars on the second one (they won), and the whole damned house on the third one (they won again). i see jones as being in the coke stage.
 
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According to the media, our rivals and our fanbase, we'll stink next year, too. The debate seems to center on the level of stench, from bearable to putrid.
 
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I think reality will soon set in for Jones, as it did for Dooley, unless he is a genius recruiter. With entirely new and inexperienced lines, and still a lot of questions at the skill positions, next year is not looking good at all. It hardly matters that we have bama and florida at home. It is hard for us to break out of the down cycle because of the conference we're in. Jones needs to find some magic.
 
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BoroVol20 said:
The most important player on the field is the quarterback. You see it every year. Some young stud steps up and leads his team. Whether RG3, Cam Newton, Manziel, or the kid from Florida State, have proved that the quarterback can change the complexion of games and seasons. Granted their overall teams are solid, the quarterbacks can provide a team with huge confidence and belief no matter what the score is. I think this team just needs someone they can believe in.

I have said this since Worley's freshman year, the guy is not a game-changer. He is a system guy. Yes, he is a great kid, but we need a guy with some swagger.
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Makes me wish we could have landed Cornwell. Man that guy would be a stud for us next year.
 
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armchair said:
I think reality will soon set in for Jones, as it did for Dooley, unless he is a genius recruiter. With entirely new and inexperienced lines, and still a lot of questions at the skill positions, next year is not looking good at all. It hardly matters that we have bama and florida at home. It is hard for us to break out of the down cycle because of the conference we're in. Jones needs to find some magic.
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it is going to be a struggle for years to come,hopefully CBJ proves us wrong :)
 
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zreeves said:
i think 6-7 wins this year. 5 next year.
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I looked up our last road victory in the SEC not involving either Ky and Vandy. I was astounded to see it was all the way back in 2007 at Miss State. That sobering fact underlines how pathetic we have become. 6 years w/o at road win in the SEC not at Nashville or Lexington. 6 years,72 months, WTF! Has Bama or LSU been down this bad since 1940 ? I hope someone will look that up. PS - I am not hoping that Butch gets fired- we need stability over there to have any hope of being a power again. There is enuf blame to go around, Fulmer, Hamilton, Kiffin, Dooley, what a sad list of failure that changed a longtime powerhouse into a wreck.
 
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armchair said:
I think reality will soon set in for Jones, as it did for Dooley, unless he is a genius recruiter. With entirely new and inexperienced lines, and still a lot of questions at the skill positions, next year is not looking good at all. It hardly matters that we have bama and florida at home. It is hard for us to break out of the down cycle because of the conference we're in. Jones needs to find some magic.
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Bama broke out of their downturn , LSU has never been down in recent memory. The Gators were down about 10 years ago-and it didn't take them this long to get it right.
 
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BoroVol20 said:
The most important player on the field is the quarterback. You see it every year. Some young stud steps up and leads his team. Whether RG3, Cam Newton, Manziel, or the kid from Florida State, have proved that the quarterback can change the complexion of games and seasons. Granted their overall teams are solid, the quarterbacks can provide a team with huge confidence and belief no matter what the score is. I think this team just needs someone they can believe in.

I have said this since Worley's freshman year, the guy is not a game-changer. He is a system guy. Yes, he is a great kid, but we need a guy with some swagger.
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You may be on to something here: Peyton Manning (although he never beat UF, but who cares?), Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, Eric Ainge (freshman year) and then even going back a few seasons Heath Shuler, Darryl Dickey, Tony Robinson... ...each time we had these sort of play-making QBs we had some pretty good runs on average. I'm sold on your point here. :salute:
 
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JACK8254 said:
Bama broke out of their downturn , LSU has never been down in recent memory. The Gators were down about 10 years ago-and it didn't take them this long to get it right.
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I don't know what you mean by "recent memory". After LSU fired 'Cholie Mac', Charles Mcclendon, in 1979, the tigers went through seven head coaches (one died of an accidental death, the other six fired) until Nick Saban showed up in 2000. In case you're counting, that's twenty one years of wandering in the wilderness. McClendon had a record eerily similar to Phil's. That was one thing that scared me when the fraud fired him.
 
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I don't really see a conference contending team in the distant future, unfortunately. I could see us being similar to Pre-Spurrier SC for the next 5-10 years. Winning 6,7,8 games and the occasional 9 win season. I really don't have a lot of hope that we can return to where we were in the 90's anytime soon. The landscape of college football has changed so much.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't really see a conference contending team in the distant future, unfortunately. I could see us being similar to Pre-Spurrier SC for the next 5-10 years. Winning 6,7,8 games and the occasional 9 win season. I really don't have a lot of hope that we can return to where we were in the 90's anytime soon. The landscape of college football has changed so much.
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so, are you suggesting that we accept perpetual mediocrity?
 
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