A good overview of the offensive scheme favored by Butch Jones

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I am not sure if this has been linked elsewhere in its entirety, but the following sources provide a good comparative analysis of the offensive schemes and, thus, personnel packages and specific skill-sets favored by former Cincinnati coach Brian Kelly and our new coach, Butch Jones:

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 1 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 2 - Down The Drive

The Difference Between Butch Jones and Brian Kelly: Part 3 - Down The Drive
 
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i dont really get the visual at the end though. it'd actually make more since to me if the names were switched, but itd still be a pretty weak visualization.
 
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From Part 2:
The drop of the QB and the movements of the receivers are synchronized so that the ball and the man arrive at the same spot on the field at the same time. That level of precision lends itself to a highly structured routes and route combination's
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Sounds like just what CP needs to improve this year, not that I expect him to stay.

From Part 3:
In my opinion Jones needs a very specific type of Quarterback to make his system really fire on all cylinders. He needs that mobile QB with a big arm to work out of the pocket in the passing game.
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Sounds like Woulard. I don't know about Ferguson or Peterman, but I know Bray is not this guy.
 
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As a professor, I would give you an "A" for this post.

This offense will require cerebral players - especially at QB and WR. I hope he can find them on the depth chart and during recruiting. In the SEC, we can't wait until all the players become seniors to contribute. Some need to be physical and smart enough to play from the very first day (i.e. Eric Berry among others).
 
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CP is not a fit for this system if it requires him to memorize routes and not just freelance :)
 
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If Patterson currently has no desire to learn the playbook and proper route-running technique, the NFL certainly isn't going to be easier in that respect than college football. He might find that his marketability as a pure kick runner won't earn nearly as much money as the top-end receiver that he is capable of becoming.
 
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I don't go to Grand Ole UT anymore, but everything I hear is CP doesn't go to class. He is extremely versatile, and I think Jones would find some creative ways to get the ball in his hands, but if he's flunking out of school, does it really matter?
 
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The more I read the more concerned I get.

After reading those write ups and reviews of Butch Jones's offensive scheme and philosophies I believe we are even more screwed than I thought originally. In the SEC his offense will require for us to recruit an athlete on the level of Cam Newton, RGIII, or Johnny Manzel(sp.) every other year and I'm not convinced that THIS staff can do that. If we don't have a quarterback of that caliber as a starter and a backup then we will never compete in the East let alone in the conference.
This conference cannot be won by a running back that throws the occasional pass unless that person is an absolute beast.

If he continues with this philosophy and the use of this scheme, our defense will have to be among the nations leaders every year in order to give us a chance.

Sorry guys I am a fan and always have been but I'm afraid I see frustration in the years to come.
 
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ScreaminVolHawkins said:
i dont really get the visual at the end though. it'd actually make more since to me if the names were switched, but itd still be a pretty weak visualization.
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Not at all - point of the PC is that almost any software runs on it - whereas Mac requires software is more specialized. Yet there are somethings that a Mac does exceedingly well. Same idea of QBs and WR, almost any plug into Kelly's system, whereas Butch has specialized requirements to really shine - but like mac stuff, it is really tight when it does.

Indeed, he is saying that Butch is all about very tight integration. The difference between a porsche (Butch style) and a dodge charger (Kelly system) Such is his theory anyway. Very interesting.

If he is correct that Butch operates best with a QB who has both feet and an arm, we had best get looking - Bray may, in time, do well in the pros but whatever his merits, he is NOT a Vick/Tebow.
 
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Gandalf said:
Not at all - point of the PC is that almost any software runs on it - whereas Mac requires software is more specialized. Yet there are somethings that a Mac does exceedingly well. Same idea of QBs and WR, almost any plug into Kelly's system, whereas Butch has specialized requirements to really shine - but like mac stuff, it is really tight when it does.

Indeed, he is saying that Butch is all about very tight integration. The difference between a porsche (Butch style) and a dodge charger (Kelly system) Such is his theory anyway. Very interesting.
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so that is not at all what those two guys are about. have you ever seen the commercials they are from? i get what your saying, but that is not at all what these two characters represent. i think he mixed up the names...

anyway, its a long wait until football season, especially with the way the bball is starting off.
 
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Vol4life09 said:
The more I read the more concerned I get.

After reading those write ups and reviews of Butch Jones's offensive scheme and philosophies I believe we are even more screwed than I thought originally. In the SEC his offense will require for us to recruit an athlete on the level of Cam Newton, RGIII, or Johnny Manzel(sp.) every other year and I'm not convinced that THIS staff can do that. If we don't have a quarterback of that caliber as a starter and a backup then we will never compete in the East let alone in the conference.
This conference cannot be won by a running back that throws the occasional pass unless that person is an absolute beast.


If he continues with this philosophy and the use of this scheme, our defense will have to be among the nations leaders every year in order to give us a chance.

Sorry guys I am a fan and always have been but I'm afraid I see frustration in the years to come.
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He may only occasionally find the perfect fit, in terms of quarterback skill sets, to squeeze every last horsepower possible out of his offense. That, however, is really no different than the fact that Spurrier's true period of dominance was when Danny Wuerffel was his QB and, simliarly, Urban Meyer found the perfect match for his system in Tim Tebow. Both programs became less formidable, but only marginally so, after the graduation of those quarterbacks.

Butch Jones has not been on the job long enough for there to be one shred of empirical evidence that he either can or cannot "recruit an athlete on the level of Cam Newton, RGIII, or Johnny Manzel (sp.) every other year." He found the caliber of athletes at that position necessary to achieve success within the constructs of his system and he did so at two programs. He has also indicated a willingness to adapt overall offensive scheme to the strengths of the personnel he has at his disposal. Let's at least allow a season or two to play out before declaring that his system can't work in the SEC.
 
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From the sound of it Jones is going to need a couple years to get recruits and teach his system. I am not saying he won't be successful, but next year could be tuff.
 
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excellent lesson. Timing offenses have always concerned me. For gambling with my money, I would always good with the killer defense to beat the finesse offense. If the defense canjust disrupt the timing, they have advantage.
 
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