A history lesson about the electoral college

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k-town_king said:
I f they are shitholes what does that make the rural areas with worse everything? Lmao
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Worse crime? Worse air? Worse noise? Worse housing costs? Worse attitudes? Worse taxes? I'm betting @CagleMtnVol won't be boarding up anything tonight for fear of looters and rioters.
 
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evillawyer said:
Interesting tweet thread here.
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Constitutional republics over pure democracies. State rights.

If you’re a smaller midwestern state, and the left pack the court, end the filabuster, and somehow got enough states (this would never happen) to agree to end the electoral college...

Why would you stay? You’d have only two options left. Option 1: allow California and NY to run your state. Option 2: succession
 
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k-town_king said:
Giving white people in rural areas more voting power than most Americans.
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MS is not only benefited by the electoral college but also has the nations highest % of black citizens. As is Louisiana, the state with the second highest % of black citizens.

#TheMoreYouKnow
 
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AM64 said:
That you stand against mob rule - the very definition of "democracy"? Note: we never were a democracy - never was our government model.

That the concept of compromise that made this country possible - that some more populous states accepted a solution so that less populous states saw a benefit in uniting?

That if you marginalize most states to the benefit of the few - like CA and NY, you invite secession?

Of course, when you turn away from the original concept of united states (sovereign states working together for the greater good) to a federal government with subservient states, it tends to confuse people on the original concept because they no longer see the original concept. Actually the Brits with Brexit figured out that they might not be able to stop creeping federalism, but they could leave before being swallowed and digested.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I like and appreciate it. I thought about the dependencies being created in today's world and government, but not thought about the impact of this in context of the original framers.
 
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0nelilreb said:


I think he’s spot on when he says he blames her professors for not teaching her history .
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This guy should stick to filmmaking and fence building. History is not his strong point and he should demand a refund from whatever over priced school he attended.

Both A.O.C. and Desouza, dance around the truth but she is more right than him. Foxnews is too concerned with flaming than the truth. Get a real expert not a b.s. filmmaker.

A.O.C. is correct in that the electoral college was a shadow of slavery. The rest of the story is the electoral college was a compromise that benefited the slave owning states.

"Not only was the creation of the Electoral College in part a political workaround for the persistence of slavery in the United States, but almost none of the Founding Fathers’ assumptions about the electoral system proved true."

Here is a simple explanation.
Why Was the Electoral College Created?
 
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AM64 said:
That you stand against mob rule - the very definition of "democracy"? Note: we never were a democracy - never was our government model.

That the concept of compromise that made this country possible - that some more populous states accepted a solution so that less populous states saw a benefit in uniting?

That if you marginalize most states to the benefit of the few - like CA and NY, you invite secession?

Of course, when you turn away from the original concept of united states (sovereign states working together for the greater good) to a federal government with subservient states, it tends to confuse people on the original concept because they no longer see the original concept. Actually the Brits with Brexit figured out that they might not be able to stop creeping federalism, but they could leave before being swallowed and digested.
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The original idea of the united states was the articles of confederation and they gave complete sovereignty to the states. It failed.

States do not have complete sovereignty and have not since they willing ratified the constitution.

We have always had a democracy, an indirect democracy. Another vestige leftover from the damn British. A true democracy, would exist without the electoral college.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Worse crime? Worse air? Worse noise? Worse housing costs? Worse attitudes? Worse taxes? I'm betting @CagleMtnVol won't be boarding up anything tonight for fear of looters and rioters.
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KtweenKang thinks anything outside the ghetto apartment government housing he is chained to is "rural"...just like the rest of the dimwits out there voting blue.
 
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k-town_king said:
Nothing against any rural area or the people.

Now the education and health systems yea.

There is no reason the least educated and least healthy part of the country should have more power than the rest.
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So you are talking about the inner city here-right?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Question: Why do you want to impose urban rules and morays on rural people? Why should people that live in rural areas be subjected to the same draconian mandates and taxes that city folks have?
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Their lives are garbage, so they want to make everyone else miserable as well.
 
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