A tree huggers wet dream comes true

#26
#26
lumberjack4 said:
What's a wet dream? Is it like peeing in your pants?
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I wouldn't know but you might ask Chris Mathews,
surely he would know.






DinkinFlicka

Lol, that last picture is my favorite.
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#28
#28
The Use and Abuse of the Endangered Species Act


One example of this occurred in 1990, when the
spotted owl was listed as an endangered species.

The government argued that the timber industry was
killing its natural habitat, wiping out the species. After
its listing, U.S. timber industry revenues decreased
by nearly 90%, putting many out of business.

Further researched revealed that the timber industry
was not at fault; the real issue was the barred owl, who was eating all of the spotted owl’s natural food.

Nonetheless, the damage to the timber industry remained.

Obama has recently paved the way for many similar
abuses of the ESA by forcing the USFWS to list many
new species under the ESA in the name of “clearing
the backlog of cases.” Beginning in 2000, environmental
groups began to flood the USFWS with requests
for new additions to the ESA.

Groups like the WildEarth Guardians have filed for over
1,230 plants and animals to be added to the list since 2007. Obama has agreed to analyze each and
every request beginning in May of 2011.

As with the EPA , these new regulations have now gone
too far and are now hurting property rights and slowing
economic growth. While protecting a species is not
inherently wrong, or even liberal (Republican President
Teddy Roosevelt is widely recognized as the father of
American conservation movement), it is problematic
when species and habitats are defined in such a way
as to prevent people from using their property the
way they intended. Recent examples include:

Farmers in California suffered a terrible draught that
scorched their land because the Obama Administration
allowed the USFWS to channel water away from their
farms in an effort to protect the delta smelt, a California
fish. (minnow really)

The protection of prairie dogs in Utah has meant that
homeowners have no legal means of protecting their
yards and pastures from the tunneling and burrowing
of prairie dogs.

Cattle ranchers in Texas have been hit by many
regulations in the past few years, including protection
of the Shinnery Oaks their cattle graze on and the Dune
Sagebrush Lizard. These efforts significantly limit the
value of their land by preventing the ranchers from
letting their cattle roam on sections of it.
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The really unfair thing about it all is that the eco
groups who are realy in legal terms 'vexatious litigants'
whose suits should automaticaly be dismissed because
they are filing new ones every day, are funded to the
max by international groups with very deep pockets
and very shady backgrounds.

World Wildlife Fund had a banner on this site last week
calling for readers to call their congressmen to voice
their concerns about protecting so-called 'endangered
species.'
 
#29
#29
So I was merged and someone was deleted.

I guess that's fair, in someone's mind.

10333
 
#35
#35
VOLatile said:
Call me a treehugger all you want... but this breaks my heart.

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what does a turtle with a thin waistline have to do with the endangered species act?

better yet, what does a photoshopped image of a turtle, who's shell has been distorted by the plastic rings from a six pack of beer, have to do with the endangered species act.
 
#37
#37
MG1968 said:
what does a turtle with a thin waistline have to do with the endangered species act?

better yet, what does a photoshopped image of a turtle, who's shell has been distorted by the plastic rings from a six pack of beer, have to do with the endangered species act.
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What it has to do with the ESA is a good question.

It's not photoshopped though. That's "Peanut", found in Missouri back in the '90's.
 
#39
#39
MG1968 said:
what does a turtle with a thin waistline have to do with the endangered species act?

better yet, what does a photoshopped image of a turtle, who's shell has been distorted by the plastic rings from a six pack of beer, have to do with the endangered species act.
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How humans negatively impact the lives of innocent animals. From over-hunting to littering to habitat destruction.
 
#43
#43
MG1968 said:
what does a turtle with a thin waistline have to do with the endangered species act?

better yet, what does a photoshopped image of a turtle, who's shell has been distorted by the plastic rings from a six pack of beer, have to do with the endangered species act.
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Clear case of DUI, two days in jail, $2,500 fine and license revoked for a year.




VOLatile said:
How humans negatively impact the lives of innocent animals. From over-hunting to littering to habitat destruction.
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Those who hunt and fish have been the foremost in conservation of resourses, if you want to find slobs, look in that park in Manhatten who trash out the joint and ask government to do everything for them, including protecting all species from extinction, an impossible task.

BTW, I never did catch the list of all those books you've read on the subject.
 
#44
#44
VOLatile said:
How humans negatively impact the lives of innocent animals. From over-hunting to littering to habitat destruction.
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have any leather goods in your home? shoes, furniture, BDSM accessories?

got any jelly, jam, jello?

point being is that you're going to have to walk the walk if you're going to talk the talk, which is something most of the PETA-types don't do.
 
#46
#46
BeecherVol said:
Is there ever a case where over population of an animal has become a problem in which they have to be thinned out?
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There are portions of TN where deer populations are such that hunters can take 3 does per day. In some areas where hunting by the public isn't permitted there have actually been paid professionals brought in to cull the herd.
 
#48
#48
MG1968 said:
have any leather goods in your home? shoes, furniture, BDSM accessories?

got any jelly, jam, jello?

point being is that you're going to have to walk the walk if you're going to talk the talk, which is something most of the PETA-types don't do.
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I do. I'm not, by any means, advocating PETA. What we do just has to be controlled and we have to take responsibility for it.

BeecherVol said:
Is there ever a case where over population of an animal has become a problem in which they have to be thinned out?
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Only where humans are present. Over population is directly caused by human population and actions. Humans intervene in the natural selection process.

KiffinKiller said:
I'm sure booming deer numbers have nothing to do with the dwindling wolf numbers.
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As a result of humans over-hunting the wolves.
 
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#50
VOLatile said:
Only where humans are present. Over population is directly caused by human population and actions. Humans intervene in the natural selection process.
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Kinda confused.
So humans are the cause of it, but also the only reason the population should be controlled.

To the last part. Intervene? Are humans not part of the natural selection process?
 
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