Aaron Douglas - Good Read

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Dudleys87 said:
Quite the opposite. Alabama is painted to be pleasantville and Knoxville is hell and Dooley was the devil.
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I found this to be interesting:

"New coach Derek Dooley made things a bit more difficult on the family when he stipulated that he would release Aaron to schools no closer than eight hours from home. To a family whose son was struggling with addiction, that seemed unduly harsh. But they made it work. Aaron enrolled in Arizona Western College in Yuma, Ariz., and thrived. The distance from home and from temptation actually helped."

It paints Dooley as being a prick for forcing him to go far away but gives him no credit for the fact that forcing him to go away helped. Dooley, at the time, in a sense said he did that because if AD really wanted to get away from the demons he was really going to get away from them. So Dooley's 8hr away requirement really benefited AD just like he thought yet he is painted as a bad guy in the article just like always. If he hadn't set that requirement AD could have been in worse shape or dead earlier.
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The OP said the article was a "good read." NO, IT'S NOT A GOOD READ.The author of this story uses the death of Aaron Douglas as background for the primary intent of his story: to promote Alabama football. At every opportunity, language is used to imply that only at Alabama did Aaron find solace, and how much better Alabama's program is better than anyone else's, especially Tennessee.

If you love Bammer, then you think it's a good read. If you are a VOL FAN, the article is nothing more than this jackass of a writer standing on Aaron Douglass' grave and extolling the virtues of Alabama football. His intent is so damn transparent that it makes me want to puke.
 
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The whole it's Tenn. fault is bull****. The kid died on Alabama's watch not Ut's. I would be willing to bet he never stoped taking pain pills,and if the kid had such a high pain tolerance to play 2 years on a broke foot why would Alabama even give him painpills knowing full well he's a addict? If he truly did quit sounds like Alabama cocked the gun and handed it to him.
 
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Voltillyafall said:
The OP said the article was a "good read." NO, IT'S NOT A GOOD READ.The author of this story uses the death of Aaron Douglas as background for the primary intent of his story: to promote Alabama football. At every opportunity, language is used to imply that only at Alabama did Aaron find solace, and how much better Alabama's program is better than anyone else's, especially Tennessee.

If you love Bammer, then you think it's a good read. If you are a VOL FAN, the article is nothing more than this jackass of a writer standing on Aaron Douglass' grave and extolling the virtues of Alabama football. His intent is so damn transparent that it makes me want to puke.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Pills have been and will continue to destroy this Country. Pharma and FDA folk need to be in jail.
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If the new drug they are coming out with, Zohydro, is like they say, then that will be on a whole new level of addiction and overdose from what it seems.
 
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Re Dooley, I think he was trying to get the kid away from the people bringing him down and don't fault what he was trying to do. The only way people beat it is to get away from it or the people that suck you back in.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
But there will be more pills to take to fight the side effects so it's ok.
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It's not so much side effects. As I understand it, there is an extremely thin window between therapeutic and overdose. Or ****ed up and overdose as we will no doubt see
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Quite the opposite. Alabama is painted to be pleasantville and Knoxville is hell and Dooley was the devil.
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I didn't get that impression honestly. His parents praised Alabama, and they had first hand knowledge of the situation, and they are all-Vol. How bout we not make this about Tennessee and remember it's about a hurting family who happened to get love and support from a rival team. I get the fact that Dooley is made a villain while the article fails to praise his decision, but that is all I see that I find fault with in the article. Knoxville had temptations for Aaron, most hometowns are like that with troubled kids. It isn't a reflection on UT. I didn't see UT slammed in that article at all. I saw Alabama praised, yes, but it was by his parents who are victims in this, and from their real life experience. How about we concede that Saban and Bama were good to this family? It's okay to admit that.
 
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That was a strange article...I felt like I was being twisted into feeling sorry for Alabama and the parents, when both seem like they were equally responsible for enabling AD's behaviors.
 
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trevols81 said:
I assume you mean when the benefits start to wear off. Do you know why they(most people) don't stop taking pills? Because they are prescribed by DOCTORS. Unfortunately, Drs are on the take from pharm reps who don't give a damn about patient care or rehabilitation.

Unfortunately, in this county medical care is a for profit business. This is the major problem.

Call me out for socialized medicine, or Obamacare, or whatever... but for profit medicine is a loser for the patient, without question.
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This is so off base on so many different levels that I don't even know where to begin....
 
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My heart goes out to the Douglas family for their loss and grief. I have to say my hatred of Bama prevents from from liking the story at all, other than the family doing better. Anything that comes close to promoting Bammer and I'm like ... no thanks ... I'm out ...
 
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VolAce said:
This is so off base on so many different levels that I don't even know where to begin....
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Agreed.

The medical advances that have helped this person resulted from trials that could not have been conducted if not for the profit he so quickly criticizes..

How many medical advances have been made as a result of experimentation in those countries who have their health care overseen by a governmental bean counter?

That question was rhetorical...
 
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Sorry for the family and I really despise pills and the wake of devastation that usually follows the family of the user. Wish he'd never been introduced to the drugs, but as the old saying goes "seek and ye shall find". Lesson to those who think they can control their drug usage, don't try it. I really wish the article focused less on the Universities and more on AD himself. Kids think they're invincible and often times we never know about these type of stories, but they happen way way too often. AD will forever be a young man and may God bless his family and his soul. RIP.
 
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VolAce said:
This is so off base on so many different levels that I don't even know where to begin....
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No, no, its really not....unless you are a pharm rep. Nevertheless, this is a discussion for another place, another time. GBO!
 
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csheaton said:
No, no, its really not....unless you are a pharm rep. Nevertheless, this is a discussion for another place, another time. GBO!
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Yes, it is.

I'm not a pharmaceutical rep.

The medical advances that have helped people resulted from medical trials that could not have been conducted but for the profit he so quickly criticizes. Profit, and shareholders, drive companies to invest capital and develop new drugs that help a company maintain market share, or even grow market share.

With no profit motive, no medical advances will be made as there is no reason to do so. Socialism and government control only care about people being treated equally, and in this case it would be treating everyone in such a way that all would share in the same misery. Medical advances are not rewarded when government controls medicine.
 
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Was a good article, lot of info I did not know on the whole situation. I wish their family the best. If I ever have to bury one of my own children it would absolutely without a doubt be the end of my own life as well. That is not something I would be able to handle.
 
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My gosh, people, can you not see what the author is doing? He's taken a horrific situation and used it to do nothing but glorify Alabama. There is no new information. The overriding message is not that using drugs is addictive and life-threatening, or that UT did all it could. Read the piece again: the common thread throughout is that the U of A football program is full of class, full of people who care without measure for Alabama football, and that the U of A is a true "family"?

Now that you know that all this article represents is someone standing on the grave of Aaron Douglas and yelling Roll Tide,, do you still think it's a GOOD READ?
 
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VolAce said:
This is so off base on so many different levels that I don't even know where to begin....
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Not as far off as you would think it's nothing but a big money buisness. Why do you think they let people without even a highschool degree buy pill mills and start pushing legal drugs pretty much?
 
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Teetfeeler said:
Not as far off as you would think it's nothing but a big money buisness.What, pray tell, is intrinsically wrong with something being a "big money business"? Do you hate money, or do you hate businessmen? Why do you think they let people without even a highschool degree buy pill mills Care to give an example? and start pushing legal drugs pretty much?Again...who are the drug pushers? " Pretty much" means...what?

You don't really have an argument. All you have is some loose, off-the-cuff phrases with NO SUBSTANTITIVE TRUTH SUPPORTING THEM. Your hatred of anything "big money" is typical of a person with an inferiority complex...and issues like that can go back to "highschool."
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