Abortion debate (split from bball forum)

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jerryvol44 said:
What people do not understand until it is too late is that there is always a price to pay for the evil that we do. For example America and especially the South got involved in slavery because it seemed economically advantageous at that time. Look at the consequence of slavery. First the South was almost totally destroyed by the North, brother killed brother sometimes fathers fought against son. And we have had over a hundred years of friction between the races and it continues to this day. Which is more evil, the enslavement of millions of men women and children or the legalized murder of 40-50 million babies. American will pay a price for this evil that will make the civil war look like childs play. God is not mocked.
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I hope no slave descendants read this. How do you criticize what the South has done historically and then take a pro-life stance hahaha?
 
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NewToVolCountry said:
You have no right to condemn someone's personal decision, either Pitino's or Ware's. Having an abortion does not necessarily make you an awful person. You are even more stupid for downing a kid for choosing to play for a coach who has asked for an abortion.
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Yes it does, it make you a murderer. In partial birth abortion the doctor delivers the child almost completely and then sticks a sharp instrument into its brain, infanticide pure and simple. Not saying that this case was a partial birth case. Anyone who does not realize that a fertilized egg in the womb is a human being is beyond help.
 
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volconomist said:
It must have been a Ph.D. in Ambulance Law with a special focus on Righteous Indignation.
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This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Posters here self righteously crucify Pearl for telling a lie and defend the killing of babies. Amazing, actually it is not amazing not in todays America.
 
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jerryvol44 said:
Yes it does, it make you a murderer. In partial birth abortion the doctor delivers the child almost completely and then sticks a sharp instrument into its brain, infanticide pure and simple. Not saying that this case was a partial birth case. Anyone who does not realize that a fertilized egg in the womb is a human being is beyond help.
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Guess your almighty god should just smite me now. Go ahead and end it Jesus, I'm beyond help
 
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jerryvol44 said:
What people do not understand until it is too late is that there is always a price to pay for the evil that we do. For example America and especially the South got involved in slavery because it seemed economically advantageous at that time. Look at the consequence of slavery. First the South was almost totally destroyed by the North, brother killed brother sometimes fathers fought against son. And we have had over a hundred years of friction between the races and it continues to this day. Which is more evil, the enslavement of millions of men women and children or the legalized murder of 40-50 million babies. American will pay a price for this evil that will make the civil war look like childs play. God is not mocked.
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Please elaborate on the price America will pay? I want to be educated on this so I will know how to prepare.
 
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utvols88 said:
Since when is abortion a responsible act? Lol come on man. I'm pro choice but abortions are the irresponsible choice. It's called adoption or don't have, most likely, unprotected sex with a mistress.
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Pro choice, what does that even mean? The other side of the coin of pro life is not pro choice it is pro death. So why do people who support baby killing have to dress it up by using false terms. I tell you why, they can't even admit to themselves what they actually support.
I have heard women say It's my body and I can choose to do what I want to with it. This is wrong both ways, first it is not her body it is the babies body she is destroying and second she is not free to choose what to do with he own body suicide is against the law. Abortion can only be supported by false argurments.
 
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Its a fetus, and abortion has many positives.

god doesn't exist. Not your god, not the gods of the other hundreds of religions. Your religion isn't even the most popular on this planet. Why do you believe your fairy tale is more correct than others'? Grow up and think this out rationally, it isn't good to live with such a falsified existence.
 
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Orange Bison said:
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Please elaborate on the price America will pay? I want to be educated on this so I will know how to prepare.
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How America will pay is up to God not me. An entire generation of Americans have been killed. Who will replace them? Think about it. Look around you and see what is going on in America right now. Staggering debt, soaring crime rates, the proliferation of veneral disease, floods, earth quakes, a permant dependant underclass, 47 percent of all Americans do not pay any Federal Income tax they are dependant on government, drug use and on and on..........
 
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jerryvol44 said:
Pro choice, what does that even mean? The other side of the coin of pro life is not pro choice it is pro death. So why do people who support baby killing have to dress it up by using false terms. I tell you why, they can't even admit to themselves what they actually support.
I have heard women say It's my body and I can choose to do what I want to with it. This is wrong both ways, first it is not her body it is the babies body she is destroying and second she is not free to choose what to do with he own body suicide is against the law. Abortion can only be supported by false argurments.
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this is all a big load of crap. Sorry, that's about the only response it's worth
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
Its a fetus, and abortion has many positives.

god doesn't exist. Not your god, not the gods of the other hundreds of religions. Your religion isn't even the most popular on this planet. Why do you believe your fairy tale is more correct than others'? Grow up and think this out rationally, it isn't good to live with such a falsified existence.
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God does exist and its actually very rational to believe he does. Atheists very rarely offer their own explaination for existence so Im sure you wont either. Where is the rational to support the baby is not alive? Abortionists would love to prove this but cannot.
 
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Orange Bison said:
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Please elaborate on the price America will pay? I want to be educated on this so I will know how to prepare.
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I'm sure jerryvol will PM you the address so you can send $100 and get the pamphlet outlining the process
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
Its a fetus, and abortion has many positives.

god doesn't exist. Not your god, not the gods of the other hundreds of religions. Your religion isn't even the most popular on this planet. Why do you believe your fairy tale is more correct than others'? Grow up and think this out rationally, it isn't good to live with such a falsified existence.
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Pro 14:16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
I am sure you are confident.
 
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jerryvol44 said:
Pro choice, what does that even mean? The other side of the coin of pro life is not pro choice it is pro death. So why do people who support baby killing have to dress it up by using false terms. I tell you why, they can't even admit to themselves what they actually support.
I have heard women say It's my body and I can choose to do what I want to with it. This is wrong both ways, first it is not her body it is the babies body she is destroying and second she is not free to choose what to do with he own body suicide is against the law. Abortion can only be supported by false argurments.
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I can support rape victims getting an abortion. Especially if it is a 12-14 year old girl who was raped by her father. In order to keep the girls life safe an abortion can be the better option. I do not support some college tramp having unprotected sex and using abortion as a way to fix their irresponsible and immature mistake. However given certain circumstance I cannot support making it illegal. It's safer this way since it's regulated by the law. Being strictly pro life is selfish garbage.
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droski said:
people have been aborting children well before america got started.
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"ladies, they may take away your right to get an abortion, but they can never take away your right to get drunk and throw yourself down a flight of stairs."

Lot of moral grandstanding up in this.
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utvols88 said:
I can see support rape victims getting an abortion. Especially if it is a 12-14 year old girl who was raped by her father. In order to keep the girls life safe an abortion can be the better option. I do not support some college tramp having unprotected sex and using abortion as a way to fix their irresponsible and immature mistake. However given certain circumstance I cannot support making it illegal. It's safer this way since it's regulated by the law. Being strictly pro life is selfish garbage.
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there are many other reasons for it. Responsible parents are presented with the choice often and choose not to bring the child into the world
 
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jerryvol44 said:
Pro choice, what does that even mean? The other side of the coin of pro life is not pro choice it is pro death. So why do people who support baby killing have to dress it up by using false terms. I tell you why, they can't even admit to themselves what they actually support.
I have heard women say It's my body and I can choose to do what I want to with it. This is wrong both ways, first it is not her body it is the babies body she is destroying and second she is not free to choose what to do with he own body suicide is against the law. Abortion can only be supported by false argurments.
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It means you respect the LAW that gives the right for the WOMAN to choose

I always love it when people, especially men, start telling other women what to do with their bodies. Amazing
 
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utvolpj said:
because it starts out saying proponents of choice are pro-death. It goes downhill from there
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What would you like to call killing babies?

utvolpj said:
there are many other reasons for it. Responsible parents are presented with the choice often and choose not to bring the child into the world
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Its not a choice, the baby is alive! Show me how its not!
How have we convicted thousands of fathers for punching a pregnant woman of murder? What about the thousands who recieved double murder for killing an expecting mother?
 
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