Afghanistan

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He'll be criticized by the margins on both the left and the right for this. The far left will complain that he promised to end the war and instead is sending more troops. The far right will complain because they don't like him and no matter what he decided it would, in their view, be wrong.
 
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actually he promised to take the fight to the taliban in afghanistan during his campaign. i thought you knew this LG
 
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vol_in_il said:
see he's standing behind his campaign promises
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actually this is one of the rare occasions where he actually is following through.

The far left will hate this because they are against anything involving the military. The far right will find fault with the strategy and mention Obama dragging his feet in this decision at every turn.

I will reserve my opinion until I see just how these troops are used. We haven't been fighting the war in Afghanistan properly for some time IMO. If they allow them to take the fight to the Taliban wherever they are in the country (and in parts of Pakistan) then it will be successful. It will be interesting to see how Obama lets the military handle the war in the next year.
 
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So it looks like there will be a date set for troop withdrawal. Not sure I agree with that.

This whole strategy is just more of the half-hearted attempts we saw from the Bush administration. Either go to war, or don't, but don't just dangle your feet in the water and expect to be able to swim to the other side.
 
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rjd970 said:
So it looks like there will be a date set for troop withdrawal. Not sure I agree with that.

This whole strategy is just more of the half-hearted attempts we saw from the Bush administration. Either go to war, or don't, but don't just dangle your feet in the water and expect to be able to swim to the other side.
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agreed. go full in or not at all. and jesus don't they realize setting a date for troop withdrawal basically means the terrorists can wait till that date?
 
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ya i heard that they are giving the troops 6 months after they are deployed. at that time they will withdraw. if that happens, he will def. catch a lot of crap which he deserves if the job is not done.
 
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droski said:
agreed. go full in or not at all. and jesus don't they realize setting a date for troop withdrawal basically means the terrorists can wait till that date?
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I agree, if the objective is not to root out the Taliban then what is the point? Either we do the job or just let it go. When we do pull out the Taliban will retake the country and everything we have done there will be for nothing.

No Afghan force will be able to fight the Taliban successfully over time. Afghanistan will fall back into their hands within a year, probably less.
 
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Are they selling the mission as a 'defend the Afghan people' until we can 'train their own services to do so' type of thing?
 
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TennTradition said:
Are they selling the mission as a 'defend the Afghan people' until we can 'train their own services to do so' type of thing?
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If so then they are doomed to fail before they even start. American forces having any presence around civilians in Afghanistan will only serve to make those they are protecting targets.

Our armed forces are best suited to one thing, fight and kill the enemy, when they are relegated to policing the result will be the same as it was in Iraq and our men quickly become demoralized and are little more than targets.
 
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the problem with the date of removal is that we are trying to convince warlords and the people of Afghan. to reject the Taliban and side with ? (Afghan govt?). Would you go against the Taliban that will be there still when we leave or take a wait and see attitude?

We need to crush the Taliban or pack it up and go home.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He'll be criticized by the margins on both the left and the right for this. The far left will complain that he promised to end the war and instead is sending more troops. The far right will complain because they don't like him and no matter what he decided it would, in their view, be wrong.
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This type of excuse making for your boy being criticized for horrendous decisions is why you've marginalized yourself. Often the right criticizes the man because he is a far, far, far left agenda driven empty suit.

He makes a decent financial comment or decision, I'll give him his due. So for, he's in the midst of a long 0fer.
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The Worst Kind Of Scheduling Conflict.

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Question for the veterans and military board members....what is the protocol for applause when the president addresses a military audience? I always thought because he was the CIC there was supposed to be a formality that is different than how citizens respond to the POTUS. I thought applause, if any, would be held until the end of the speech.

Forgive me if it is a stupid question.
 
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rjd970 said:
Question for the veterans and military board members....what is the protocol for applause when the president addresses a military audience? I always thought because he was the CIC there was supposed to be a formality that is different than how citizens respond to the POTUS. I thought applause, if any, would be held until the end of the speech.

Forgive me if it is a stupid question.
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I was at Eglin AFB, FL when Pres Bush spoke about the war following 9/11. There is no protocol as far as I know.

I agree with the strategy. I, like John McCain said after the speech, only have a problem with setting a date to withdrawal.
 
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He wants to send 30,000 troops, (when 40,000 was requested) months after they were requested, and then start withdrawing in 18 months?

I guess I should not expect anything more out of him.
Wow!
 
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Full Text of the Obama speech.

Teleprompter in chief omitted "God bless our troops."

Another point; in the speech he said; "The day of blank checks is over."

Au contraire Piere, how about Bosnia????
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The United Nations Security Council extended this month the EUFOR mandate for one more year, citing political obstacles for the return of some 117,000 people displaced during and after the 1992-95 war in the former Yugoslav republic.

"In technical, military terms, the country can be considered stable," Italian Major-General Stefano Castagnotto said in a farewell news conference."You have a unified army and I don't see any outside threat from neighbouring countries."

He said there was no potential for a new internal conflict any time soon, but using troops was a complex decision-making process with a political dimension.

"It's a political decision," he said about extending the EUFOR mandate.
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