Aftermath of Lady Vols Loss to Michigan

[PG1]

I agree with your post, we were out coached. Where were the in-game adjustments? Especially in the last 4-5 minutes of the game. Sure seemed like the coaches were sitting on their hands not knowing what adjustments to make. It also seemed like the team was playing a pick-up game and doing whatever they wanted to. Do they have any set plays? Sure doesn't seem like the coach has control over this team, and if that's right, I don't see things getting better regardless of the players you have.

The women’s game is about the PG position. Anyone with a dominant PG can be in and win any game. We don’t have one and don’t have one coming in. CH of all people should understand this. Coaches with PG’s are playing chess while we are playing checkers.

 

[stlvolsfan]

Yesterday. I saw it on her moms twitter and it’s a pretty good guess she is referring to Jordy as she is referring to the LVs

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I just saw this on Twitter too.

 

[PG1]

Not saying this as a knock on Blair or his players, but A&M has been knocked around fairly hard thus far by a 15 seed and a 7 seed. They have survived the first two rounds, but just barely despite being heavy favorites.

Agreed. It comes down to the fact the SEC has been overrated all season. SC may very well win it all. But the rest of us aren’t making a very good showing.

 

[PRG]

The women’s game is about the PG position. Anyone with a dominant PG can be in and win any game. We don’t have one and don’t have one coming in. CH of all people should understand this. Coaches with PG’s are playing chess while we are playing checkers.

The team that beat us ..... There point guard (starter) did not play ! I agree we need a better point guard and now we need someone to take Rennia’s place . KK ..... not so much ?
JMO

 

[Amb3096]

The team that beat us ..... There point guard (starter) did not play ! I agree we need a better point guard and now we need someone to take Rennia’s place . KK ..... not so much ?
JMO

Still think everyone is selling KK short. Fans will realize how much value she added to the team next year when she's gone.

 

[Rickster]

I believe next year we will see a nice shooting range extension at the 4.

 

[stlvolsfan]

I'm very proud of our Lady Vols! Thanks for everyone's hard work.

Me too!

 

[creekdipper]

You left out the last word ?

Expectant? Boys? Helpers? Joys?

I can't begin to guess to which term you refer.

 

[PG1]

The team that beat us ..... There point guard (starter) did not play ! I agree we need a better point guard and now we need someone to take Rennia’s place . KK ..... not so much ?
JMO

But they had a quality back up that valued the ball and made good decisions. Something we lack.

 

[PG1]

Apparently, the 1 and 2 seeds in the women's game each year just coincidentally happen to be the best prepared.

And all seem to have the best PG’s

 

[creekdipper]

And all seem to have the best PG’s

Well, there is that.

 

[savannahfan]

Sad to see the wait until next year or year after posts .Been that way for awhile now.I thought that Coach Harper had enough talent to at least reach Sweet 16.Just my opinion but I thought she was badly outcoached by the Michigan Head coach....especially Michigan's defense against our two best players who were essentially shut down in the 1st half and until the game was out of hand.No adjustments to offensive game plan at all that was apparent to me.
I am with you in the hope that next year will see some improvement with the new blood coming in but I have to see it to believe it and by the way I am not from Missouri .

All the coaching in the world can't help when your can't shoot, are pounded all over the court, and as I have said all season long, "this team is not quick, not fast and are sluggish. Mich. was just better on this day. If we had played to our normal, we would likely have won. You can't blame Kellie for the players not playing. It the old saying "you can drive a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!"

 

[alexvol]

All the coaching in the world can't help when your can't shoot, are pounded all over the court, and as I have said all season long, "this team is not quick, not fast and are sluggish. Mich. was just better on this day. If we had played to our normal, we would likely have won. You can't blame Kellie for the players not playing. It the old saying "you can drive a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!"

Wasn't blaming Kellie .I did say that she should have tried some different offensive schems to help free up the two scorers on the team and I stand by that comment
Be careful in what criticism you post because you will be labeled a negavol by some on this board.

 

[Vols2015]

Tara VanDerveer isn't a mother.
Dawn Staley isn't a mother.
Jody Conradt isn't a mother.
Kay Yow wasn't a mother.

Implying that women who aren't mothers are somehow less than in coaching is ridiculous.

I never said that being a mother makes a coach worth more than a coach who isn’t. You read what your mind wanted you to think I meant, which is not what you just implied. I didn’t imply anything, just a simple thought that with the connection Pat had and Kellie has with being a mother, could be a difference maker for them with Tennessee. You can be a coach and have great success, as the ones you mentioned, without being a mother. I think your implication is quite ridiculous myself.

 

[007Racer]

davis is not the same as last year back or hip she been playing hurt and covid 19. no point guard on team but walker played point guard in high school. i think her old old college team she was not the point guard walker. lets see kellie point guard miles coming in next year. her old team just went back to sweet 16 with most of kellie players lending the way. next year class 21 was her change to recuit a class not like 20 no time to talk to players most all had commited.

what???

 

[Argonaut]

I never said that being a mother makes a coach worth more than a coach who isn’t. You read what your mind wanted you to think I meant, which is not what you just implied. I didn’t imply anything, just a simple thought that with the connection Pat had and Kellie has with being a mother, could be a difference maker for them with Tennessee. You can be a coach and have great success, as the ones you mentioned, without being a mother. I think your implication is quite ridiculous myself.

You said that Pat and Kellie's ability to take players under their wing was tied to them being mothers -- and Holly wasn't so that could have been her issue.

Not having kids wasn't Holly's issue.
There have been successful coaches without kids.
There have been coaches will a gaggle of kids that can't win and their team despises.

Holly could actually connect really well with the kids, otherwise they wouldn't have chosen UT in the first place (especially her last few years...). Her issue was she couldn't coach them out of a paper bag after they got got to Knoxville. It doesn't matter if the coach is like your mother if you're a top talent that isn't winning.

 

[volman128]

I never said that being a mother makes a coach worth more than a coach who isn’t. You read what your mind wanted you to think I meant, which is not what you just implied. I didn’t imply anything

Your quote (speaking on the environment of the program): Holly was not a mother, that I know of, so that alone can make a huge difference!

Saying that not being a mother can make a huge difference in the environment of the program is most definitely implying something pertaining to someone's coaching ability. Coaching ability isn't just X's and O's.

 

[lfvol]

Still think everyone is selling KK short. Fans will realize how much value she added to the team next year when she's gone.

You cannot be great with two bigs that aren’t athletic. We had to play both because we didn’t really have a better option. Defensively it was a big problem and offensively, it clogged the lane because neither were a stretch catch and shoot much less put it on the floor.

 

[Amb3096]

You cannot be great with two bigs that aren’t athletic. We had to play both because we didn’t really have a better option. Defensively it was a big problem and offensively, it clogged the lane.

The double post had its limitations, but against most teams, their sheer size made it impossible to get easy looks inside and they gobbled up rebounds like no one's business. I'm not saying Kasi was All-This or That, but she will be missed and I don't think that the freshmen will be able to replicate her physicality even if they may have more diverse offensive games.

 

[Lucy]

You cannot be great with two bigs that aren’t athletic. We had to play both because we didn’t really have a better option. Defensively it was a big problem and offensively, it clogged the lane because neither were a stretch catch and shoot much less put it on the floor.

I think Key is very athletic. You have to be athletic to make the blocks she does without fouling. KK was leaps ahead at the end of the year. We will miss her leadership a lot.

 

[madtownvol]

You cannot be great with two bigs that aren’t athletic. We had to play both because we didn’t really have a better option. Defensively it was a big problem and offensively, it clogged the lane because neither were a stretch catch and shoot much less put it on the floor.

I agree and also with other posts noting that the two post became a matter of necessity. What the team obviously needed was someone who had to be taken seriously as an outside shooting threat and who could pass the ball well. Early in the year, the LVs used Marta in that role (and against albeit against generally weaker comp.), she passed the ball well but never provided the needed outside scoring threat. That imbalance was one of the big Achilles heels that the team could not compensate for.

 

[djtee]

I think Key is very athletic. You have to be athletic to make the blocks she does without fouling. KK was leaps ahead at the end of the year. We will miss her leadership a lot.

Thank You Key is very athletic. Also some need to understand without Key and Kasi in the post this team would have been 500 at best or below i think.

 

[lfvol]

I think Key is very athletic. You have to be athletic to make the blocks she does without fouling. KK was leaps ahead at the end of the year. We will miss her leadership a lot.

We may miss KK’s leadership and she was better. I did not suggest otherwise. But she couldn’t guard in the zone at all nor when pulled away from the basket. She was a contributor though. Key is a good shot blocker and scorer especially against smaller players but that doesn’t make her athletic. She is not quick at all. She doesn’t get low enough and utilize her body to gain position against good post and struggles to play hard. So she often disappears against good post. She has more potential than what we saw if she were well conditioned and her motor improves.

 

[Darth_Vol]

Thank You Key is very athletic.

She is a good post, I wouldn't call her athletic. She's actually a poor rebounder for her size. I would be surprised if she can dunk a ball...

 

[Darth_Vol]

The women’s game is about the PG position. Anyone with a dominant PG can be in and win any game. We don’t have one and don’t have one coming in. CH of all people should understand this. Coaches with PG’s are playing chess while we are playing checkers.

I've said numerous times Kellie committed coaching malpractice by not addressing the point guard situation last offseason, which ultimately bit them in the butt. If she decides to run it back with the Jordans handling the point again, adding only a raw, inexperienced true freshman, there is no hope for her...